Six Ways America is Like a Third-World Country

[Sean]

That is funny....God does not need me to stand up for Him either....(think I have mentioned that before...)

However, with the chief purpose of man being to glorify God and love Him forever, man's rules come a very distant second. Which is why, ever-changing morals make no difference to me (and should not to ANY Christian).

So all Christians should support slavery, incest, paedophilia and gang rape because, after all, the prohibitions against them are merely man's "ever changing morals".

 

[bronzeage]

That is funny....God does not need me to stand up for Him either....(think I have mentioned that before...)

However, with the chief purpose of man being to glorify God and love Him forever, man's rules come a very distant second. Which is why, ever-changing morals make no difference to me (and should not to ANY Christian).

God shares what His commands are. As a Christian, we are commanded to go and speak of God to others and share what He has done for us through His son, Jesus Christ.

At least I stand for something. At least I view God as the one authority by which I live my life. At least I try and live my life as God would want me to (yes, we are all sinners and I fail everyday as I am not perfect....nor is anyone else)....but at least I do not cower to the "political correctness" of this world and I do know that there are rights/wrongs and things are truly black/white! I have no problem not going along with the collective and am very proud that God's standards never change....nor will mine.

You are correct, God does not need ANY of us to stand up for Him. He is perfectly capable to doing that Himself. However, to call one's self Christian, THAT requires a stance in this world covered in sin.

You mentioned it before, but said the opposite.

There are many men in the world who would think your presence on this board, where you can have private conversations with other men to be adultery. My ever changing morals will prevent your husband from dragging you to the city gates and having you stoned to death.

Should I happen to be near when someone wants to stone you to death, I will not let that happen. Afterward, I'll take you to lunch. We'll have fried catfish, or maybe a pulled pork sandwich., Both are is now allowed under my every changing morals.

If you are going to pick and choose your morals, why not choose the ones which show love for your neighbors, instead of the ones which prevent it?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

July, do you like crab, clams, mussels, oysters, scallops or lobster?

Because Leviticus 11:12 sez this:

Whatever has no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination to you.

...but something tells me all them hippie Socialist disciples woulda written a wholly different Aramaic tune had there been lobster rolls way back when!

http://www.seriouseats.com/images/20110629-lobster-roll-primary1.jpg

Now that, my dear Church Lady, is definitive proof of God's love and benevolence towards us!

 

[Sean Renaud]

That looks like something that was already eaten.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

That looks like something that was already eaten.

They don't have to be beautiful to be messy delicious, now. We're talking about some five napkin style eatin' here, see?

 

[BotanyBoy]

God shares what His commands are. As a Christian, we are commanded to go and speak of God to others and share what He has done for us through His son, Jesus Christ.

What has he done for us through his son, the late JC??

At least I stand for something. At least I view God as the one authority by which I live my life. At least I try and live my life as God would want me to (yes, we are all sinners and I fail everyday as I am not perfect....nor is anyone else)....but at least I do not cower to the "political correctness" of this world and I do know that there are rights/wrongs and things are truly black/white!

And what about any of those "At least I" is intrinsically and definitively a good thing?

God clearly approves of slavery and the subjugation of women....what about your support for those lovely morals is good? Why should I applaud your effort to impose your god's ancient assholery upon others under punishment of law??

 

[julybaby04]

You mentioned it before, but said the opposite.

There are many men in the world who would think your presence on this board, where you can have private conversations with other men to be adultery. My ever changing morals will prevent your husband from dragging you to the city gates and having you stoned to death.

Should I happen to be near when someone wants to stone you to death, I will not let that happen. Afterward, I'll take you to lunch. We'll have fried catfish, or maybe a pulled pork sandwich., Both are is now allowed under my every changing morals.

If you are going to pick and choose your morals, why not choose the ones which show love for your neighbors, instead of the ones which prevent it?

The thing is....any private conversations I have on here are usually either a former friend saying hello....or someone new sharing views on their own personal faith or supporting my views on here.

I post here because I enjoy political and religious talk. I post here because there are those who read without posting who enjoy an opposing point of view from the 99% who are in lock-step here.

I have no worries about embarrassing my husband as I have no interest in anyone but him.....in real life nor online. I am here strictly for conversation about the topics that interest me.......which is 100% why I don't post on other threads on here. I make choices too.

 

[julybaby04]

What has he done for us through his son, the late JC??

He provided a way, through His death on the cross and then His resurrection, for you to spend eternity with God.....if you choose to believe.


And what about any of those "At least I" is intrinsically and definitively a good thing?

God clearly approves of slavery and the subjugation of women....what about your support for those lovely morals is good? Why should I applaud your effort to impose your god's ancient assholery upon others under punishment of law??

You completely misunderstand. Anything God does has zero to do with me imposing anything. God made this world, made me, made you....made everyone. He is perfectly capable of doing as He wishes.

Your view of God is your view. I am sure I could go through a very long explanation as to why what you think of God is truly not who He is, however, your heart is hardened to Him as is your willingness to learn about Him.

I will say this, I have shared on here before about God, His Son, Jesus Christ and what Jesus did for you to save your soul. God loves you very much and wants you to accept Him and His Son and to repent, be saved and live with Him in eternity. God did all of this simply because He loves you.....that is it.

So in knowing that you have heard who God is as well as Jesus Christ, if you choose to not accept it, that will be your choice. But when Christ returns, you will not be able to say you never heard. You will be judged, like it or not.

I do pray that at some point in your life, your heart softens and you are willing to truly learn who God is.

 

[Sean Renaud]

They don't have to be beautiful to be messy delicious, now. We're talking about some five napkin style eatin' here, see?

I didn't say it wasn't delicious. I eat chitlins, pork brains, chicken feet and all that stuff. So it's not like I don't get it, I'm just looking at that going. . .oh god I want to put that in my mouth why?! Without having it nearby to smell it just ain't got the texture I like to see on my screen.

 

[Bad_Doggie]

The thing is....any private conversations I have on here are usually either a former friend saying hello....or someone new sharing views on their own personal faith or supporting my views on here.

I post here because I enjoy political and religious talk. I post here because there are those who read without posting who enjoy an opposing point of view from the 99% who are in lock-step here.

I have no worries about embarrassing my husband as I have no interest in anyone but him.....in real life nor online. I am here strictly for conversation about the topics that interest me.......which is 100% why I don't post on other threads on here. I make choices too.

Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into this one!

One with erotica and sex writ large on the front door.........for political and religious chitchat, right.

I'm sure the congregation would see it that way.

Play it again Sam.

Woof!

 

[julybaby04]

Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into this one!

One with erotica and sex writ large on the front door.........for political and religious chitchat, right.

I'm sure the congregation would see it that way.

Play it again Sam.

Woof!

Might want to read my posts......

 

[BotanyBoy]

You completely misunderstand.

And you completely didn't answer the fuckin' question.....

What about all that is inherently good?

God says slavery is just in the Bible....so is the subjugation of women by men.....you clearly support these things BLINDLY. Why is it good?

God loves you very much and wants you to accept Him and His Son and to repent, be saved and live with Him in eternity. God did all of this simply because He loves you.

If he loved me so much, why doesn't he just not be an asshole in the first place?? Then he won't have to sacrifice his only son on the cross to save my soul from the fiery wrath he would otherwise subject me too.

God...don't be such a prick....problems all solved and everyone wins!! I'm just a common man and I have my head further removed from my ass than your god, what does that say about you?

He provided a way, through His death on the cross and then His resurrection, for you to spend eternity with God.

There is more evidence supporting this guys' bullshit
http://unorthodoxthoughts.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/ancient-aliens-guy.jpg

in the Bible than there is evidence supporting your bullshit in the Bible....that's how bad off your argument is.

So generate proof or you got nothing.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

The thing is....any private conversations I have on here are usually either a former friend saying hello....or someone new sharing views on their own personal faith or supporting my views on here.

I post here because I enjoy political and religious talk. I post here because there are those who read without posting who enjoy an opposing point of view from the 99% who are in lock-step here.

I have no worries about embarrassing my husband as I have no interest in anyone but him.....in real life nor online. I am here strictly for conversation about the topics that interest me.......which is 100% why I don't post on other threads on here. I make choices too.

Thing is, though…the secular nature of this entire site as well as what it supports, disseminates and enables throw a really heavy hypocritical wrench in all your fundamentalist God's law-following convictions. And in coming back here, you are a direct party to all that support. Period. I don't see how you can make a path around that since the way you follow the Bible doesn't give you a way out.

You accepting the "political conversations" here as something of intellectual worth to come back to is all your right to get into, even though it's less conversation to learn from than throwing statements around like rocks, insults and meme vectoring. But as far as other people factor into things, don't you do other social media? Is this the only place you can talk to your (former?) friend? Wouldn't Facebook be better for the two of you? Is your friend as churchy as you or do they (secretly) get down with the get down like most who come here are?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I didn't say it wasn't delicious. I eat chitlins, pork brains, chicken feet and all that stuff. So it's not like I don't get it, I'm just looking at that going. . .oh god I want to put that in my mouth why?! Without having it nearby to smell it just ain't got the texture I like to see on my screen.

Dang.

See, I look at that and immediately I'm getting the taste of a steamed, buttery, chunkily chopped-up lobster tail/claw, a tangy creamy tartar sauce that compliments it and (maybe) a warm, crunchy, toasted bun to sammich it all between.

And that was one of the more neater lobster roll pics I had to choose from on Google. If I didn't care about presentation, I woulda posted this:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-E3xmrNUch_Q/T76ieWlqcPI/AAAAAAAAK9c/yipuZ-oGJ4A/s1600/3985076034_636e182297_b.jpg

They didn't even really bother chopping that beeyotch up, just dumped it all into the bun willy-nilly. But look at it. Look at the specks of spices clinging to the flesh. Can't you just feel the warmth and goodness of it waiting to spread happiness throughout your belly?

 

[Bad_Doggie]

Might want to read my posts......

I read your denials on this page and others….hence.

I question the motive, as would many, of a deeply religious person claiming to cross the threshold in to a den of iniquity expecting to find religious and political chat though.

I suppose here must be the only place on the net that offers such discourse and of course email and other media don't exist to communicate with your "friend".

Or are you doing missionary work with the consent of your husband and congregation?

Woof!

 

[eyer]

It remains amusing to read those who proclaim themselves intelligent and aware...

...continue to present direct evidence to the contrary.

The edicts of the Old Testament were addressed and commanded to God's chosen people, who we know today as the Jewish people and, for those Jews who believe in the God of the Torah, their religion is known to us today as Judaism.

The Jewish people trace their ancestry all the way back to a dude named Abram; if you recall, God renamed him Abraham during the Covenant ceremony which Genesis 17 relates...

...the Old Testatment/the Old Covenant/the Old Contract was between God and the Jews. It is known as the time of dispensation of the Law. It is said that the prime purpose of the Law wasn't to prohibit anyone from violating the Law (which was a given), but to make clear that humans are fully incapable of obeying the Law in the first place.

When a person understands that vital principle, and believes in the God of the Law, she has a chance to turn to her God in repentance when she realizes she has broken His Law. And that is the God of the Bible's entire need of His human race whom He testifies He loves so much: to turn away from the world of lawlessness and back to Him (which the practice of repentance is). After all, fellowship with us may be the only reason He created us in the first place.

But His people had the tendency not to really care about the Law at all (a similarity that may indicate Jewish ancestry in President Obama's family tree). And when they broke the Law, instead getting the clue and turning back to God in shame and repentance, they simply continued to revel in their lawlessness - which, according to the Law, is simply more sin, more abomination in the eyes of God.

The Nazarene was a Jew, a Hebrew, an Israelite whose lineage traced back through David and Israel (nee Jacob) and, thus, all the way back to Abraham, aka the Father of the Faith. But the Son of God (as he is called) is portrayed in the Bible not as an ordinary human, but as the actual Spirit of God Himself born into human flesh.

As was recorded during the dispensation of the Law: the life of God is in his Spirit, the life of man is in his blood; the Nazarene - as the Greatest Story Ever Told relates - was God Almighty lowering Himself to become man.

Why? Why would God do that?

Because so, so many of His own chosen people - the Jews - had proven to prefer to stay lost from Him, and the lawlessness that they proved they much more preferred was completely contrary to the absolute perfection of God Himself. Take a tall, clear glass and fill it with pure, clean water; now begin adding drops of oil - even with the very first drop, the glass of water becomes instantly tainted, and then, with every next drop, the water only becomes more polluted until you have an abomination of that original glass full of pure, clean water, the oil darkening it...

...after so many millennium of lawlessness, the world God created had become dark, indeed.

I have come as Light into the world, so that everyone who believes in Me will not remain in darkness.

John 12:46 (NASB)

The New Testament, the New Covenant, the New Contract - a new, tall glass of pure, clean water - had arrived and, the dispensation of the Law no longer applicable (as it was totally fulfilled by the holy birth and sinless life of the Nazarene himself), the age of the dispensation of Grace dawned with it.

Like I said at the top:

It's amusing to read some who count themselves elite enough to tell other posters what they cannot do, and to so arrogantly tell other posters what they cannot eat as far as the Bible is concerned...

...when the Nazarene was confronted by the same disingenuousness himself - and fully dismissed it.

The New Testament is free with parables of the Nazarene working and eating and drinking and doing things the Law forbade (in the eyes of the peer elite of his day), and his lesson(s) to all of them went not understood by them, just as the Jews under the Old Covenant failed to grasp the Law's intent, too.

The point there, as the Man himself proclaimed, is that He fulfilled all the conditions of the Law and that anyone - Jew, Gentile, whomever - who believed in Him as the Son of God would be forgiven their trespasses against that same Law - thus Grace is received and realized.

The main point of this post in relation to some other posts in this thread is this:

Followers of the Christ ain't Jews, who, according to the New Testament, are eternally lost (just like all the rest of us humans) unless they accept Him as their Lord and Savior. Jews, without the saving Grace of the Nazarene, still abuse themselves and others by beating themselves and others with Law that has already been Fulfilled...

...which makes it amusing to read LIT posters using the same meaningless antics to beat "Christian" LIT posters here with weapons which have absolutely no affect in regards to how any "Christian" walks her faith.

 

[julybaby04]

Thing is, though…the secular nature of this entire site as well as what it supports, disseminates and enables throw a really heavy hypocritical wrench in all your fundamentalist God's law-following convictions. And in coming back here, you are a direct party to all that support. Period. I don't see how you can make a path around that since the way you follow the Bible doesn't give you a way out.

You accepting the "political conversations" here as something of intellectual worth to come back to is all your right to get into, even though it's less conversation to learn from than throwing statements around like rocks, insults and meme vectoring. But as far as other people factor into things, don't you do other social media? Is this the only place you can talk to your (former?) friend? Wouldn't Facebook be better for the two of you? Is your friend as churchy as you or do they (secretly) get down with the get down like most who come here are?

Jesus spent most of His time with those who needed to know who He was........

 

[BotanyBoy]

It remains amusing to read those who proclaim themselves intelligent and aware...

...continue to present direct evidence to the contrary.

The edicts of the Old Testament, blah blah blah....I'm a bat shit fundy with a vote.

All bringing us back to if god is so perfect and powerful why doesn't he just un-cluster fuck the human race and avoid all the gruesome bullshit in the first place?

Ohhh that wouldn't make for a very convincing story to control the masses of idiots out there now would it? Nope....that's why we need a jealous and vengeful gawwwwd almighty!!! Now cough up your 20% or you will burn in hell......

 

[Sean]

...which makes it amusing to read LIT posters using the same meaningless antics to beat "Christian" LIT posters here with weapons which have absolutely no affect in regards to how any "Christian" walks her faith.

Then why does Julybigot use Leviticus to justify her bigotry?

 

[julybaby04]

All bringing us back to if god is so perfect and powerful in the first place why doesn't he just un-cluster fuck the human race and avoid all the gruesome bullshit in the first place?

Ohhh that wouldn't make for a very convincing story to control the masses of idiots out there now would it? Nope....that's why we need a jealous and vengeful gawwwwd almighty!!! Now cough up your 20% or you will burn in hell......

It is actually 10%...

God is perfect. We are not. He did not mess everything up. We did.

He wants us to be with Him, but we cannot because God cannot be with sin. He gave His son so you would not have to burn in hell...10% or not.

It is your selfish state in this world (as well as all other sinners who choose to turn away from God) that is the reason God sacrificed His Son in the first place.

That kind of love.....I doubt any human could EVER understand.

 

[Bad_Doggie]

Jesus spent most of His time with those who needed to know who He was........

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s232/Bad_Doggie/LaughingDog.gif


I don't, and I'm sure most here would feel the same, need saving.

Go do something valuable and help the poor or one of the other groups you despise.

Woof!

 

[julybaby04]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s232/Bad_Doggie/LaughingDog.gif


I don't, and I'm sure most here would feel the same, need saving.

Go do something valuable and help the poor or one of the other groups you despise.

Woof!

I am not here to save anyone.....could't do that if I wanted to.

God is perfectly capable of doing that all on His own. (I would suggest though, if you are not saved, then yes you do need to be).

 

[Sean]

It is actually 10%...

God is perfect. We are not. He did not mess everything up. We did.

He wants us to be with Him, but we cannot because God cannot be with sin. He gave His son so you would not have to burn in hell...10% or not.

It is your selfish state in this world (as well as all other sinners who choose to turn away from God) that is the reason God sacrificed His Son in the first place.

That kind of love.....I doubt any human could EVER understand.

The kind of love that demands human sacrifice, torture, slavery, paedophilia, incest, gang rape and genocide?

 

[bronzeage]

The thing is....any private conversations I have on here are usually either a former friend saying hello....or someone new sharing views on their own personal faith or supporting my views on here.

I post here because I enjoy political and religious talk. I post here because there are those who read without posting who enjoy an opposing point of view from the 99% who are in lock-step here.

I have no worries about embarrassing my husband as I have no interest in anyone but him.....in real life nor online. I am here strictly for conversation about the topics that interest me.......which is 100% why I don't post on other threads on here. I make choices too.

It doesn't matter if you are worried about embarrassing your husband or not. You can come here because you benefit from ever changing morality. It doesn't matter why you come here. You are here and under the never changing morality, your husband could have you killed.

It really doesn't matter if you come here to say, "'God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector."

 

[Bad_Doggie]

I am not here to save anyone.....could't do that if I wanted to.

Then your motivation for coming here and remaining here are questionable.

God is perfectly capable of doing that all on His own. (I would suggest though, if you are not saved, then yes you do need to be).

Trust me, I don’t need saving by your vain, vengeful, schizophrenic, megalomaniac guy in the sky.

Woof!