Republican Health Policy

[about_average]

Hell, it's hard to shop around anymore just for a GP.
I used to go in and interview doctors to see if they met my needs. Now it's near impossible to find one who'll talk to you without making an appointment for an initial exam.

I have shopped around, recently, for residential physical rehab. That's almost a complete waste of time. The line of BS that you're fed is just incredible. About all you can do it judge it on the physical infrastructure.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Dont be a sompleton. Heathcare worked till government got in the mix

And off he goes into la la imaginary land.

 

[Sean Renaud]

He came out for a while? When?

 

[BotanyBoy]

IDK when was the last bunnyslippers post??

 

[jeninflorida]

And off he goes into la la imaginary land.

From someone how never had a real job....

 

[CandiCame]

He came out for a while? When?

Yesterday for like 2 posts when I was explaining capitalism. I shit you not. It's the reason I think she might be a real human.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I'd ask you to point me to those posts but I want you using your time to make me happy and the world a better place.

Jen is a person, either a troll or a very unhappy person or a very unhappy troll. Whatever it is it's best if we only play with it enough to keep it from gettin bored and for that I commend you.

 

[richard_daily]

Yesterday for like 2 posts when I was explaining capitalism. I shit you not. It's the reason I think she might be a real human.

That ain't no woman!

 

[about_average]

I'd ask you to point me to those posts but I want you using your time to make me happy and the world a better place.

Here you go: http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=948121
Pretty much starts at post 43
It's pretty funny.

 

[Sean Renaud]

That was mildly amusing ro all of two posts then Jen descended into Jen. To be fair it's really amusing how both Jen and JB prove that Candi does have teeth. I think he might be Russian.

In soviet Russia Candi eats you!

Man Soviet Russia is a scary backwards place. Money borrows you and bears eat gummy people. Fish go peopling and people spy on the government.

 

[BotanyBoy]

From someone how never had a real job....

Oh now you hate our troops....fighting wars for ol' glory, republican profit margins and minimum wage isn't real work anymore?

Good job asshole.

Man Soviet Russia is a scary backwards place. Money borrows you and bears eat gummy people. Fish go peopling and people spy on the government.

Sounds kinda bad ass when you put it that way.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Forward March!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lrU-OKyUt8s/TzcCBEG0aTI/AAAAAAAAefE/9WhB9VnOm0s/s1600/equestria_royal_army_1st_tank_unit_by_sh2otingstar-d4on3nc.png

 

[BotanyBoy]

"MuffinGun" awesome.

 

[Ishmael]

I know how policy numbers work. You're missing or ignoring my question.
Obamacare doesn't define what insurance policies have to cover, only that all policies must meet a certain minimum standard. The only reason I can think of that an insurance company would have some sort of different code is to track where the policy was purchased, to see how many were bought through the exchange, but there would be other easier ways to know.

And again, where is it documented that insurance will be doing this coding to indicate the policies have been purchased via an exchange, vs some other way? Or is it speculation?

Not speculation at all. There are only three alternatives for plans, individual, group (employer based), and through the exchanges. And as I understand it the exchanges have 4 levels of plans. They are all going to be coded to differentiate one from the other. Obviously the exchange plans are going to have their own unique coding and that coding is going to be unique to each underwriter as well, unless the government has mandated some universal coding system for the exchange plans. And even if the government has mandated such a universal system it will only apply to exchange plans and those plans will still be uniquely identifiable from any other type of plan.

We also know from the information that has become public so far that co-pays and deductibles vary from state to state and whether the individual falls into the 'pre-existing condition' pool or not. And all of those are going to have to be uniquely coded. That is the only way it can work right now.

Follow the money. The doctor/hospital has to know what to charge the patient at time of performing the service and what carrier to bill for how much under whatever plan.

If you think it's going to work any other way, let us know how.

Ishmael

 

[CandiCame]

That was mildly amusing ro all of two posts then Jen descended into Jen. To be fair it's really amusing how both Jen and JB prove that Candi does have teeth. I think he might be Russian.

In soviet Russia Candi eats you!

Man Soviet Russia is a scary backwards place. Money borrows you and bears eat gummy people. Fish go peopling and people spy on the government.

Hey I was nice!

 

[Sean Renaud]

Nice? I suppose if you've finally come around to the belief that anything that makes me grin qualifies as nice. Otherwise you're starting to come around.

 

[CandiCame]

Nice? I suppose if you've finally come around to the belief that anything that makes me grin qualifies as nice. Otherwise you're starting to come around.

I really want to have a witty retort, but I don't know how to take this, so I'm going to smile and nod.

 

[thør]

Follow the money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQtxcKT-u_Y&sns=fb

For what it's worth.....

 

[Ishmael]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQtxcKT-u_Y&sns=fb

For what it's worth.....

"For what it's worth" indeed. How long before reality sets in?

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

Might as well throw this into the mix.

No cost control


It underscores what I've argued for years now, on this forum and other venues. Healthcare is a labor intensive personal service. Until such time as the government, or the private sector, limit the incomes of the providers there will be NO abatement of the cost increases. That means the total takeover of the industry by the government or a decision on the part of the public not to play the game. And only the latter will work because a total government takeover is going to emphasize quantity over quality. Politicians cannot survive in any other mode.

Ishmael

 

[Sean Renaud]

IF we didn't have the rest of the world to point to and see that you're wrong that would make sense Ish, but we do.

 

[Ishmael]

IF we didn't have the rest of the world to point to and see that you're wrong that would make sense Ish, but we do.

Yeah, right. Willful blindness is an ugly thing.

Ishmael

 

[Sean Renaud]

Good, now that you recognize what your problem is perhaps we can deal in the facts. IT works, it works better than what we have and it's time for a change.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Yeah, right. Willful blindness is an ugly thing.

Ishmael

You would know.

The simple fact is that we spend more per capita AND more as a percentage of GDP than countries with "socialist" Universal Health Care, and they enjoy better overall health and have a longer average life span.

If you're not interested in being willfully blind, take a look at the data.

 

[jeninflorida]

You would know.

The simple fact is that we spend more per capita AND more as a percentage of GDP than countries with "socialist" Universal Health Care, and they enjoy better overall health and have a longer average life span.

If you're not interested in being willfully blind, take a look at the data.

the simple answer: remove government from health care

government fucked up, the system in the first place!

government fucks everything up---remember, this is where the stupid people work (but they have more of a work ethic then you UD - welfare lover)