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Recidiva said:
I'm pretty much the same one on one. Don't worry honey, I won't try to seduce you. You're the wrong gender and clearly too old for me, and so very, very smart about how grownups work.
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How fucked up is this post?
 
bg23 said:
you're actually claiming you -didn't- defend yourself? that you didn't brush aside what you did with, "it was justified, it was rehabilitation, it did no harm, he'd laugh about it with me right now!"

seriously???

there's nothing wrong with defending yourself, nothing wrong with correcting people with the salient facts. you didn't just defend yourself, you justified yourself and then claimed everyone was just accusing you of something you didn't do.

but you didn't defend yourself. ok.
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She thinks it's all ok.

It's fucking mental!
 
CHNOPS said:
You spent a fair number of posts, perhaps six, establishing that you had a sexual interest in the boy. When that turned bad, you said it was harmless role-playing.

You said you "fooled around on the front seat of his car." When that turned bad, you said you meant it in the sense of horsing around.

You said you rehabilitated him by making him secure about his sexuality. When that turned bad, you called that "hugging a 16-year-old."

Who cares if you loved him? You seem to think if your intentions are good enough, your actions are defensible.

This all sounds familiar to me.

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Jerry Sandusky told NBC News that he had "horsed around with kids", hugged them and touched their legs, but was innocent of the charges against him.
Mr Sandusky, 67, is accused of abusing at least eight boys over 15 years.
According to grand jury testimony, a witness saw him raping a boy as young as 10 in the Penn State showers in 2002.
In an interview with NBC News' Rock Center programme broadcast on Monday night, Mr Sandusky said: "I have horsed around with kids. I have showered after workouts.
Asked if he was a paedophile, he said: "No".
The former defensive co-ordinator for the Penn State Nittany Lions was also asked if he felt sexual attraction to under-age boys.
"Sexually attracted?" Mr Sandusky said. "You know, I enjoy young people. I love to be around them. But no, I'm not sexually attracted to young boys."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15730317
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I found out he was a minor, so I met him and gave him a hug.

WTF?

There's something wrong. There's something terribly wrong with all of it.
 
opportunity? i'm not here to pick holes.
but i'm... what? angry? disappointed? offended? repulsed?
i'm not going to rant, but i'm not going to be able to interact with you in future.
 
Phelia said:
I believe you didn't think this would explode as it did when you first posted, and that's part of what I'm having trouble understanding. Even if (another massive if) everything about your relationship was as exceptional as you've described it (bearing in mind that everyone considers themselves exceptional), ANY sort of sexual contact with a minor seems so heinous that most people will have a visceral reaction. Some people will have a very personal and painful reaction. That the admission barely registered to you as something people would be upset about is curious. That said, I don't think everyone needs to line up and tell you exactly what you did wrong, either, but hey, it's what we do.
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Interesting. If it had been me, the kid would have become a eunuch in my mind when I knew his age and I would have felt nothing sexual for him. I also feel this about other categories of people like friend's children regardless of age, their so & lovers, relatives, young enough to be my child or old enough to be my parent, and others. That feeling turns on when one of the conditions is discovered even if I have previously been sexually interested in a person.
Someone I have a very strong sexual interest in recently ask me if conditions were different with them would that still happen, when I said yes, and he seemed kind of amazed. I think it's something I learned directly from anyone.
If I were a religious person I might think it stemmed from the Torah where G-d tells the Jews that there will be other gods and lands for other people but not for you or something like that.
 
Squibbs said:
You're probably right, knowing lushious haguios.

They seem good for each other.

Both middle aged and can't keep a relationship.

My guess Is they are both losers and fit for each other.

I got nothing personal against ltr other than she's a moron for obvious reasons..
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History will repeat itself as it usually does. She may think she will rise above and not get drawn in. But his usual lies and overall scum bag behavior will make her respond. Either way for the 3rd or 4th time we will be able to laugh at his butt hurt poor behavior.
 
VaticanAssassin said:
History will repeat itself as it usually does. She may think she will rise above and not get drawn in. But his usual lies and overall scum bag behavior will make her respond. Either way for the 3rd or 4th time we will be able to laugh at his butt hurt poor behavior.
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Not the greatest of places to have this conversation, but how is his scumbaggery any worse than you going after me now?
 
lovetoread said:
Not the greatest of places to have this conversation, but how is his scumbaggery any worse than you going after me now?
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Not going after you at all. Like I said, I think you will try to ignore him when it goes south and he does his normal thing. Just don't think you will be able to let his normal lies stand unanswered.

Nothing to do about you, and it's what most the board is thinking/waiting for.

Time will prove me wrong or right. History says right.

I am just here to laugh at people who deserve it. I will be laughing at him, not you. I will feel slightly sorry for you. But you are a big girl and know his history so you know what you got yourself into.
 
VaticanAssassin said:
Not going after you at all. Like I said, I think you will try to ignore him when it goes south and he does his normal thing. Just don't think you will be able to let his normal lies stand unanswered.

Nothing to do about you, and it's what most the board is thinking/waiting for.

Time will prove me wrong or right. History says right.

I am just here to laugh at people who deserve it. I will be laughing at him, not you. I will feel slightly sorry for you. But you are a big girl and know his history so you know what you got yourself into.
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What lies would they be, whelp?
 
It just occurred to me that I'm Malcolm Reynolds incarnate.

Saffron decides to be married, Malcolm tries to simultaneously shake her off and protect her and fend off all the people telling him he's going to the "Special Hell." He tries to tell her that she lives on a crappy planet and if someone tries to kill her, kill them right back, wants to get her set up on a good planet with a decent job. Maybe ranching.

If you were to ask Malcolm how dare he take advantage of Saffron, his response is "Preacher, you got a smutty mind."

So if my laughter seems inappropriate, or my attitude seems unjustified now I jut think: What Would Malcolm Do.

Dude = Saffron

I didn't have a ship to steal, but damned if he couldn't have yoinked it from me if he'd wanted to.
 
yes reci, you're a goddamn hero.

Recidiva said:
Believe that or don't, I'm not here crowing about it being a great thing everybody should do. I'm listing it under "crime" and it's not something I'm proud about, but it is something that happened. To me it was an emotional and not a physical relationship, but was it still outside of what is considered lawful? Yes.
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Recidiva said:
It just occurred to me that I'm Malcolm Reynolds incarnate.

Saffron decides to be married, Malcolm tries to simultaneously shake her off and protect her and fend off all the people telling him he's going to the "Special Hell." He tries to tell her that she lives on a crappy planet and if someone tries to kill her, kill them right back, wants to get her set up on a good planet with a decent job. Maybe ranching.

If you were to ask Malcolm how dare he take advantage of Saffron, his response is "Preacher, you got a smutty mind."

So if my laughter seems inappropriate, or my attitude seems unjustified now I jut think: What Would Malcolm Do.

Dude = Saffron

I didn't have a ship to steal, but damned if he couldn't have yoinked it from me if he'd wanted to.
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You're from another planet, that's for God damn sure.
 
Oh, okay.

Well, you could make a thread about fags or lezzies. That really killed em in the 90s, if I recall.
 
Or old people! You could bag on old people! Starting with making a shitty remark about me being on the Internet in the 90s.

That would blow people's minds.

You're welcome.
 
bg23 said:
yes reci, you're a goddamn hero.
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This deserves appreciation as it's actually a quote from "Firefly" and made me laugh. I heard it in Zoe's voice.

I have always loved bg23 for our shared Whedon geekdom and I will miss having that.
 
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