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roadsofar

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Pretty sure after reading all this shit i'm going to hear either:
1. Seek marriage counseling
2. Get out
3. You should have been more careful before having a child!

Since you don't know me and I don't know you, I feel this is a 'safe' place to blurt things out that I've been holding on inside for a while.

First of all this is really hard to say to friends/family because I feel like a failure. Why? We're married for four years, and I want out.

It's complicated, though, and I would rather NOT get a divorce for a few reasons.

The most important reason is that we have a 4 month old child. I don't want to feel like I'm skipping out on that, and not giving our child the blessing of having two parents around at all times.

The second reason is that I feel trapped. I don't know how to get out, how to start again. I don't have a lot of free money (you'll see why soon) and I don't know if I can strike out on my own again nearing 40.

I am really stressed about work and money. We just had a baby. My wife and I haven't had real sex in over a year (yes, pretty much after we discovered she was pregnant, and 4 months afterwards). My wife doesn't work. She does not seem to be really looking. She doesn't even drive.

Back to the sex, yes, it's been that long. The sex was good enough back then but looking back honestly? She's a shitty lay. I've gone down, fingered, done a hell of a lot of stuff but she can't be bothered to even try a hand job, let alone a blow job. My sex life for the past year has been on the computer when she goes to bed and looking at porn.

I am *this* close to start actively flirting and actively seeking affairs. One of the reasons I haven't so far is because I know how upset she'd be if I found out, or, how my friends would think of me if they found out.

But really, I don't get shit out of this relationship. She gets to complain about how I never help clean around the house, and, yea, she has a point. However, I'd rather be criticized for NOT doing stuff around the house than being criticized for HOW I do it. It has to be her way. I get bitched at for cleaning dishes 'wrong'. Or for doing laundry 'wrong'.

Speaking of communication, its usually one way. She's either talking at me or bitching at me. I've gotten to the point where I tune everything out. She can accuse me of not listening, and she's right. Even if I do manage to listen its an exercise in frustration because she does not know how to communicate like a human being.

What I mean by that is that she'll spend 3 4 or 7 sentences describing something before identifying it. It's like playing the 100,000 pyramid or some bullshit. Am I supposed to guess what the fuck you're talking about?

"Oh yea I wanted to tell you that my mom and I went to the store looking for something and we had gone all around the mall and I couldn't really find much but then we went back and tried a few other things and it didn't seem to work so I finally settled and decided on a dress"

How many fucking words does it take? You should have just said "My mom and I were dress shopping..." and then describe the troubles. So, basically, I don't bother listening to her because I don't know when she'll reveal the whole point of the conversation. is it at the beginning? The middle? Second to last word? who knows!

She has no fucking friends. None. I guess its hard to maintain friendships when you never learned how to drive, but holy hell. The closest thing she has to friends are her family which we see entirely TOO much of.

I can understand leaning on your mother to help out with a newborn is a good thing to have, but they pretty much hang out every day of the week. Not getting shit done. Why make friends when your family is enough I guess?

We never go out or do anything. Yes, I know that's harder now that there's a baby, but how are we to connect on anything?

Back to my stress? Yea I'm stressed. I've been on sleeping pills for the past few years because I am the only bread winner and work hasn't exactly been easy. I've called in sick a lot of times because my sleep medication didn't work correctly. I also drink two beers a night (with the sleep medication!).

A typical day of my life of a week consists of
wake up
get ready for work
maybe kiss wife and baby goodbye
work for 9 or so hours
come home, maybe I make dinner, maybe wife has it done in time,
eat, spend some time with the baby (hope she feels like playing and doesn't cry the whole time) and then we watch tv while holding baby. Maybe if I'm lucky I get to feed the baby. Then, as my wife gets the baby ready for bed, I get ready for the next day of work: make my lunch, make sure I have clothes ready and iron them. set the coffee machine. Maybe kiss wife and kid goodnight. And then relax by playing games or jerk off to porn for the next hour or so before the sleeping pills kick in and I pass out on the couch.

Yea, the couch. I'm stressed about job, and I need a good night of sleep. Babies don't help with that. So I sleep on the couch. Normally, you know I'd love to go up stairs on the weekends or whatever and lose some sleep to be with baby, but the way I see it now: the bedroom is a room of sleep and of intimacy. If I'm not gonna get either, what the fuck is the point?

I've tried dozens of times to get frisky with wife (in the dark, at bedtime) in bed while the kid is in the bassinet. She'll usually respond with 'eww' the child is over in the bassinett. or 'eww' not tonight.

I know this stuff is kind of sounding disjointed (my sleeping pills are kicking in). But, what should I do? Can you see that my life sucks? What do I do? How do I get my wife to put out?
 
Pretty sure after reading all this shit i'm going to hear either:
1. Seek marriage counseling
2. Get out
3. You should have been more careful before having a child!

Since you don't know me and I don't know you, I feel this is a 'safe' place to blurt things out that I've been holding on inside for a while.

First of all this is really hard to say to friends/family because I feel like a failure. Why? We're married for four years, and I want out.

It's complicated, though, and I would rather NOT get a divorce for a few reasons.

The most important reason is that we have a 4 month old child. I don't want to feel like I'm skipping out on that, and not giving our child the blessing of having two parents around at all times.

The second reason is that I feel trapped. I don't know how to get out, how to start again. I don't have a lot of free money (you'll see why soon) and I don't know if I can strike out on my own again nearing 40.

I am really stressed about work and money. We just had a baby. My wife and I haven't had real sex in over a year (yes, pretty much after we discovered she was pregnant, and 4 months afterwards). My wife doesn't work. She does not seem to be really looking. She doesn't even drive.

Back to the sex, yes, it's been that long. The sex was good enough back then but looking back honestly? She's a shitty lay. I've gone down, fingered, done a hell of a lot of stuff but she can't be bothered to even try a hand job, let alone a blow job. My sex life for the past year has been on the computer when she goes to bed and looking at porn.

I am *this* close to start actively flirting and actively seeking affairs. One of the reasons I haven't so far is because I know how upset she'd be if I found out, or, how my friends would think of me if they found out.

But really, I don't get shit out of this relationship. She gets to complain about how I never help clean around the house, and, yea, she has a point. However, I'd rather be criticized for NOT doing stuff around the house than being criticized for HOW I do it. It has to be her way. I get bitched at for cleaning dishes 'wrong'. Or for doing laundry 'wrong'.

Speaking of communication, its usually one way. She's either talking at me or bitching at me. I've gotten to the point where I tune everything out. She can accuse me of not listening, and she's right. Even if I do manage to listen its an exercise in frustration because she does not know how to communicate like a human being.

What I mean by that is that she'll spend 3 4 or 7 sentences describing something before identifying it. It's like playing the 100,000 pyramid or some bullshit. Am I supposed to guess what the fuck you're talking about?

"Oh yea I wanted to tell you that my mom and I went to the store looking for something and we had gone all around the mall and I couldn't really find much but then we went back and tried a few other things and it didn't seem to work so I finally settled and decided on a dress"

How many fucking words does it take? You should have just said "My mom and I were dress shopping..." and then describe the troubles. So, basically, I don't bother listening to her because I don't know when she'll reveal the whole point of the conversation. is it at the beginning? The middle? Second to last word? who knows!

She has no fucking friends. None. I guess its hard to maintain friendships when you never learned how to drive, but holy hell. The closest thing she has to friends are her family which we see entirely TOO much of.

I can understand leaning on your mother to help out with a newborn is a good thing to have, but they pretty much hang out every day of the week. Not getting shit done. Why make friends when your family is enough I guess?

We never go out or do anything. Yes, I know that's harder now that there's a baby, but how are we to connect on anything?

Back to my stress? Yea I'm stressed. I've been on sleeping pills for the past few years because I am the only bread winner and work hasn't exactly been easy. I've called in sick a lot of times because my sleep medication didn't work correctly. I also drink two beers a night (with the sleep medication!).

A typical day of my life of a week consists of
wake up
get ready for work
maybe kiss wife and baby goodbye
work for 9 or so hours
come home, maybe I make dinner, maybe wife has it done in time,
eat, spend some time with the baby (hope she feels like playing and doesn't cry the whole time) and then we watch tv while holding baby. Maybe if I'm lucky I get to feed the baby. Then, as my wife gets the baby ready for bed, I get ready for the next day of work: make my lunch, make sure I have clothes ready and iron them. set the coffee machine. Maybe kiss wife and kid goodnight. And then relax by playing games or jerk off to porn for the next hour or so before the sleeping pills kick in and I pass out on the couch.

Yea, the couch. I'm stressed about job, and I need a good night of sleep. Babies don't help with that. So I sleep on the couch. Normally, you know I'd love to go up stairs on the weekends or whatever and lose some sleep to be with baby, but the way I see it now: the bedroom is a room of sleep and of intimacy. If I'm not gonna get either, what the fuck is the point?

I've tried dozens of times to get frisky with wife (in the dark, at bedtime) in bed while the kid is in the bassinet. She'll usually respond with 'eww' the child is over in the bassinett. or 'eww' not tonight.

I know this stuff is kind of sounding disjointed (my sleeping pills are kicking in). But, what should I do? Can you see that my life sucks? What do I do? How do I get my wife to put out?

Just doing my part by quoting.

yw.
 
Pretty sure after reading all this shit i'm going to hear either:
1. Seek marriage counseling
2. Get out
3. You should have been more careful before having a child!

Since you don't know me and I don't know you, I feel this is a 'safe' place to blurt things out that I've been holding on inside for a while.

First of all this is really hard to say to friends/family because I feel like a failure. Why? We're married for four years, and I want out.

It's complicated, though, and I would rather NOT get a divorce for a few reasons.

The most important reason is that we have a 4 month old child. I don't want to feel like I'm skipping out on that, and not giving our child the blessing of having two parents around at all times.

The second reason is that I feel trapped. I don't know how to get out, how to start again. I don't have a lot of free money (you'll see why soon) and I don't know if I can strike out on my own again nearing 40.

I am really stressed about work and money. We just had a baby. My wife and I haven't had real sex in over a year (yes, pretty much after we discovered she was pregnant, and 4 months afterwards). My wife doesn't work. She does not seem to be really looking. She doesn't even drive.

Back to the sex, yes, it's been that long. The sex was good enough back then but looking back honestly? She's a shitty lay. I've gone down, fingered, done a hell of a lot of stuff but she can't be bothered to even try a hand job, let alone a blow job. My sex life for the past year has been on the computer when she goes to bed and looking at porn.

I am *this* close to start actively flirting and actively seeking affairs. One of the reasons I haven't so far is because I know how upset she'd be if I found out, or, how my friends would think of me if they found out.

But really, I don't get shit out of this relationship. She gets to complain about how I never help clean around the house, and, yea, she has a point. However, I'd rather be criticized for NOT doing stuff around the house than being criticized for HOW I do it. It has to be her way. I get bitched at for cleaning dishes 'wrong'. Or for doing laundry 'wrong'.

Speaking of communication, its usually one way. She's either talking at me or bitching at me. I've gotten to the point where I tune everything out. She can accuse me of not listening, and she's right. Even if I do manage to listen its an exercise in frustration because she does not know how to communicate like a human being.

What I mean by that is that she'll spend 3 4 or 7 sentences describing something before identifying it. It's like playing the 100,000 pyramid or some bullshit. Am I supposed to guess what the fuck you're talking about?

"Oh yea I wanted to tell you that my mom and I went to the store looking for something and we had gone all around the mall and I couldn't really find much but then we went back and tried a few other things and it didn't seem to work so I finally settled and decided on a dress"

How many fucking words does it take? You should have just said "My mom and I were dress shopping..." and then describe the troubles. So, basically, I don't bother listening to her because I don't know when she'll reveal the whole point of the conversation. is it at the beginning? The middle? Second to last word? who knows!

She has no fucking friends. None. I guess its hard to maintain friendships when you never learned how to drive, but holy hell. The closest thing she has to friends are her family which we see entirely TOO much of.

I can understand leaning on your mother to help out with a newborn is a good thing to have, but they pretty much hang out every day of the week. Not getting shit done. Why make friends when your family is enough I guess?

We never go out or do anything. Yes, I know that's harder now that there's a baby, but how are we to connect on anything?

Back to my stress? Yea I'm stressed. I've been on sleeping pills for the past few years because I am the only bread winner and work hasn't exactly been easy. I've called in sick a lot of times because my sleep medication didn't work correctly. I also drink two beers a night (with the sleep medication!).

A typical day of my life of a week consists of
wake up
get ready for work
maybe kiss wife and baby goodbye
work for 9 or so hours
come home, maybe I make dinner, maybe wife has it done in time,
eat, spend some time with the baby (hope she feels like playing and doesn't cry the whole time) and then we watch tv while holding baby. Maybe if I'm lucky I get to feed the baby. Then, as my wife gets the baby ready for bed, I get ready for the next day of work: make my lunch, make sure I have clothes ready and iron them. set the coffee machine. Maybe kiss wife and kid goodnight. And then relax by playing games or jerk off to porn for the next hour or so before the sleeping pills kick in and I pass out on the couch.

Yea, the couch. I'm stressed about job, and I need a good night of sleep. Babies don't help with that. So I sleep on the couch. Normally, you know I'd love to go up stairs on the weekends or whatever and lose some sleep to be with baby, but the way I see it now: the bedroom is a room of sleep and of intimacy. If I'm not gonna get either, what the fuck is the point?

I've tried dozens of times to get frisky with wife (in the dark, at bedtime) in bed while the kid is in the bassinet. She'll usually respond with 'eww' the child is over in the bassinett. or 'eww' not tonight.

I know this stuff is kind of sounding disjointed (my sleeping pills are kicking in). But, what should I do? Can you see that my life sucks? What do I do? How do I get my wife to put out?

Just B/C
 
Having a child is no picnic. You are in the worst of the stressful part of the relationship - the first year or two as new parents.

You chose it - you fucking deal with it. Hike up you skirt and be a father, pay the bills and don't fucking bail. I don't give a shit if you step out on her for some strange but not meeting your obligation - and I do not mean just financially, I mean being a fucking parent in every way and especially by nurturing and spending time with your child - is not an option. If you do get some strange don't be a complete asshole and get caught, or flaunt it. Or worse - think it will be any better with the strange. Just get some fucking strange and hang in there for the sake of your child - for a while anyway.

And wear a condom or get a vasectomy. On second thought, just get a vasectomy.
 
Pretty sure after reading all this shit i'm going to hear either:
1. Seek marriage counseling
2. Get out
3. You should have been more careful before having a child!

Since you don't know me and I don't know you, I feel this is a 'safe' place to blurt things out that I've been holding on inside for a while.

First of all this is really hard to say to friends/family because I feel like a failure. Why? We're married for four years, and I want out.

It's complicated, though, and I would rather NOT get a divorce for a few reasons.

The most important reason is that we have a 4 month old child. I don't want to feel like I'm skipping out on that, and not giving our child the blessing of having two parents around at all times.

The second reason is that I feel trapped. I don't know how to get out, how to start again. I don't have a lot of free money (you'll see why soon) and I don't know if I can strike out on my own again nearing 40.

I am really stressed about work and money. We just had a baby. My wife and I haven't had real sex in over a year (yes, pretty much after we discovered she was pregnant, and 4 months afterwards). My wife doesn't work. She does not seem to be really looking. She doesn't even drive.

Back to the sex, yes, it's been that long. The sex was good enough back then but looking back honestly? She's a shitty lay. I've gone down, fingered, done a hell of a lot of stuff but she can't be bothered to even try a hand job, let alone a blow job. My sex life for the past year has been on the computer when she goes to bed and looking at porn.

I am *this* close to start actively flirting and actively seeking affairs. One of the reasons I haven't so far is because I know how upset she'd be if I found out, or, how my friends would think of me if they found out.

But really, I don't get shit out of this relationship. She gets to complain about how I never help clean around the house, and, yea, she has a point. However, I'd rather be criticized for NOT doing stuff around the house than being criticized for HOW I do it. It has to be her way. I get bitched at for cleaning dishes 'wrong'. Or for doing laundry 'wrong'.

Speaking of communication, its usually one way. She's either talking at me or bitching at me. I've gotten to the point where I tune everything out. She can accuse me of not listening, and she's right. Even if I do manage to listen its an exercise in frustration because she does not know how to communicate like a human being.

What I mean by that is that she'll spend 3 4 or 7 sentences describing something before identifying it. It's like playing the 100,000 pyramid or some bullshit. Am I supposed to guess what the fuck you're talking about?

"Oh yea I wanted to tell you that my mom and I went to the store looking for something and we had gone all around the mall and I couldn't really find much but then we went back and tried a few other things and it didn't seem to work so I finally settled and decided on a dress"

How many fucking words does it take? You should have just said "My mom and I were dress shopping..." and then describe the troubles. So, basically, I don't bother listening to her because I don't know when she'll reveal the whole point of the conversation. is it at the beginning? The middle? Second to last word? who knows!

She has no fucking friends. None. I guess its hard to maintain friendships when you never learned how to drive, but holy hell. The closest thing she has to friends are her family which we see entirely TOO much of.

I can understand leaning on your mother to help out with a newborn is a good thing to have, but they pretty much hang out every day of the week. Not getting shit done. Why make friends when your family is enough I guess?

We never go out or do anything. Yes, I know that's harder now that there's a baby, but how are we to connect on anything?

Back to my stress? Yea I'm stressed. I've been on sleeping pills for the past few years because I am the only bread winner and work hasn't exactly been easy. I've called in sick a lot of times because my sleep medication didn't work correctly. I also drink two beers a night (with the sleep medication!).

A typical day of my life of a week consists of
wake up
get ready for work
maybe kiss wife and baby goodbye
work for 9 or so hours
come home, maybe I make dinner, maybe wife has it done in time,
eat, spend some time with the baby (hope she feels like playing and doesn't cry the whole time) and then we watch tv while holding baby. Maybe if I'm lucky I get to feed the baby. Then, as my wife gets the baby ready for bed, I get ready for the next day of work: make my lunch, make sure I have clothes ready and iron them. set the coffee machine. Maybe kiss wife and kid goodnight. And then relax by playing games or jerk off to porn for the next hour or so before the sleeping pills kick in and I pass out on the couch.

Yea, the couch. I'm stressed about job, and I need a good night of sleep. Babies don't help with that. So I sleep on the couch. Normally, you know I'd love to go up stairs on the weekends or whatever and lose some sleep to be with baby, but the way I see it now: the bedroom is a room of sleep and of intimacy. If I'm not gonna get either, what the fuck is the point?

I've tried dozens of times to get frisky with wife (in the dark, at bedtime) in bed while the kid is in the bassinet. She'll usually respond with 'eww' the child is over in the bassinett. or 'eww' not tonight.

I know this stuff is kind of sounding disjointed (my sleeping pills are kicking in). But, what should I do? Can you see that my life sucks? What do I do? How do I get my wife to put out?

Sorry; say again?
 
Right on! You bitched. I hope you feel better about your life.
 
Tell your wife that you need regular physical attention. If she can't or won't give that to you, tell her that you need to see other people. If she can't live with it, tell her that you can talk divorce, and about co-parenting.

Unless she's crazy and/or a total sociopath, she'll figure out that you are a person with needs, and that she can't ignore them forever.
 
Tell your wife that you need regular physical attention. If she can't or won't give that to you, tell her that you need to see other people. If she can't live with it, tell her that you can talk divorce, and about co-parenting.

Unless she's crazy and/or a total sociopath, she'll figure out that you are a person with needs, and that she can't ignore them forever.

Roadsofar, I go with what Richard writes here. and ignore the flack on this thread mate, there's no call for kicking a man who's down. One more point: The fathering which a kid gets from a contented dad occasionally, is worth more than a thousand hours with a dad who resents his lot.
 
holy shit, it's almost like YOU CAN COMMUNICATE THESE THINGS TO HER YOURSELF

and probably done it a heck of a lot sooner you know, like before you started thinking about having an affair

sucks to be you, but probably sucks to be your wife even more.
 
Woah tough crowd. I get the feeling that if you want to show your arse on Lit goto the am pics section, you might get a better response.
 
Woah tough crowd. I get the feeling that if you want to show your arse on Lit goto the am pics section, you might get a better response.


Yes, posting your amateur pics in the Amateur Pics forum MIGHT get you a better response.

Good job following the clues to work that out!
 
divorce when the kid is that young? family court judge WILL bend you over and fuck you RAW.

like one said, tough it out at least for awhile, and get some strange. i spent 8 1/2 years with my son, and 6 with my daughter before i couldn't take my marriage for one more day.
 
I'm sure your wife wakes up every single day counting her blessings for being married to such a wonderful man.

Poor woman has two babies to care for.
 
she couldn't drive when you married her. if you look down on non-drivers so much, why marry one?

did she have a tonne of friends when you married her and, if not, bearing in mind that you look down on people with no friends, why did you marry her?

this woman has a 4 month old baby and you're surprised she's not feeling like sex?

she has no support group other than her family and, laughably, you?

i'm not saying she's blameless, perfect or easy to live with. i'm just saying that you're an insensitive douchebag.
 
Time to bail.

You both got what you wanted (child), now its time to take your show elsewhere.

But youll attract the same kinda woman.

My grandmother married 5 times. 3 times to my grandfather. One guy died, and the other was no match for my grandfather. Unfortunately, what she liked about my grandfather, every other woman liked, too. And he was weak.
 
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