What thinly-veiled hate, epitomized in one quote, looks like

So not supporting gay marriage equals hating homosexuals?

Not in all cases, perhaps, but in most, and you know it. N.B.: The distinction between "hating homosexuals" and "hating homosexuality," along the lines of "hate the sin, love the sinner," is a distinction without a difference, and you know that too.
 
So if a same-sex only bakery refuses to make a wedding cake for a heterosexual couple, then the OP and his supporters would be fine with that right?
 
So if a same-sex only bakery refuses to make a wedding cake for a heterosexual couple, then the OP and his supporters would be fine with that right?

Absolutely not.

I'm not the weak-assed hypocrite that most of the righties here are.
 
So if a same-sex only bakery refuses to make a wedding cake for a heterosexual couple, then the OP and his supporters would be fine with that right?

That is like suggesting that the National Association for the Advancement of White People has equal legitimacy with the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. It doesn't, and you know it. The dominant group does not get to play the victim-card.
 
http://www*****sitenews.com/news/bakery-sees-business-boom-after-gay-wedding-cake-refusal

LAKEWOOD, Colorado, July 31, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The owner of a cake shop in Lakewood, Colorado said that, following a refusal to provide a wedding cake for a homosexual couple his business has more than doubled.
 
http://www*****sitenews.com/news/bakery-sees-business-boom-after-gay-wedding-cake-refusal

That's because people who believe what he does generally don't have the balls to voice their opinion until they know they have support.

In related news, vetteman responded to another busybody thread today.
 
That's because people who believe what he does generally don't have the balls to voice their opinion until they know they have support.

In related news, vetteman responded to another busybody thread today.


reading about the support that sort of shit gets is more saddening to me than reading about that sort of shit in the first place.
 
http://www*****sitenews.com/news/bakery-sees-business-boom-after-gay-wedding-cake-refusal

So, there are many stupid Christian bigots in Colorado. Not exactly news. But remember, while the state contains RW-asstard Colorado Springs, it also contains hippie-holdover Boulder, and the latter will win out in the end.
 
reading about the support that sort of shit gets is more saddening to me than reading about that sort of shit in the first place.

True.

I bet most of `em are older, though. So, there's that.
 
It depends on what they're doing.

If someone is poking you in the face with their finger and you don't like it, it isn't hate.

If they're simply trying to exist, and one wants to discriminate against them, it is.

Oregon bakery refuses to make same-sex wedding cake

GRESHAM, Ore. — The Oregon Department of Justice is looking into a complaint that a Gresham bakery refused to make a wedding cake for a same sex marriage.

It started on Jan. 17 when a mother and daughter showed up at Sweet Cakes by Melissa looking for the perfect wedding cake.

"My first question is what's the wedding date," said owner Aaron Klein. "My next question is bride and groom's name ... the girl giggled a little bit and said it's two brides."

Klein apologized to the women and told them he and his wife do not make cakes for same-sex marriages. Klein said the women were disgusted and walked out.

"I believe that marriage is a religious institution ordained by God," said Klein. "A man should leave his mother and father and cling to his wife ... that to me is the beginning of marriage."

At the advice of their attorney, the women are not speaking to the media, but they have plenty of support. Numerous people have blasted the Klein's on the internet.

What Klein wants to make clear is that he and his wife do not hate homosexuals.



What is not fine, according to Klein, is a marriage between people of the same sex. He will always stand by that conviction.

"I'd rather have my kids see their dad stand up for what he believes in then to see him bow down because one person complained."

ORS 659A.403 is the law in question. In short, it prohibits discrimination in places of public accommodation. Klein and his wife have two weeks to respond to the Oregon Department of Justice's inquiry into what happened.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/50679304/ns/us_news-life/

Hate to burst your bubble, but I just read that law. See my link. The law is narrowly focused. Party affiliation is not recognized in subsection (1), nor is ideology. Since gays are usually Democrat/Liberal, I suppose subsection (1) does not apply to them, hence, they can be discriminated against.

Am I wrong? It is an incomplete law?

ORS 659A.403
 
Hate to burst your bubble, but I just read that law. See my link. The law is narrowly focused. Party affiliation is not recognized in subsection (1), nor is ideology. Since gays are usually Democrat/Liberal, I suppose subsection (1) does not apply to them, hence, they can be discriminated against.

Am I wrong? It is an incomplete law?

ORS 659A.403

Yep, you're wrong.

Here's the section you were chattering about:

Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, all persons within the jurisdiction of this state are entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any place of public accommodation, without any distinction, discrimination or restriction on account of race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, marital status or age if the individual is 18 years of age or older.

See those two bolded words above?

It says that under the law, you can't legally discriminate against homos.
 
Yep, you're wrong.

Here's the section you were chattering about:



See those two bolded words above?

It says that under the law, you can't legally discriminate against homos.

Sure, and i would agree since the law states that. I was proposing that the bakery could discriminate based on ideology. Ideology and party affiliation is not protected, is it?
 
not saying i'm against gays getting married but why is it this shop owner has to bow to a segment of the population with whom he (or she) disagrees ? What happened to "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" ? If that segment of the population does not like it don't patronize the business, not call the government to come beat the shop owner down. The government will never,ever be able to make everyone "equal"..... thats a pipe dream.

how is selling to same-sex couples "bowing" to anyone?

And of course, they reserve the right to refuse service to niggers, spics, jews, and fags...

No hatred there.

right?
:rolleyes:
 
Sure, and i would agree since the law states that. I was proposing that the bakery could discriminate based on ideology. Ideology and party affiliation is not protected, is it?

And taking another step, the bakery could post a sign stating weapons are not allowed on the premises, therefore discrimination law abiding citizens with concealed firearms.
 
It is truly sad that more people don't follow the path which places them above the law...
 
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