Grave of the Fireflies

[Comshaw]

This is the most poignant and devastatingly sincere war movie I've ever seen... (snip)

If this be true, me thinks thou shoulds climb from the comforting folds of your mothers bosom, leave your cloistered life in the basement and come out into the real world.



Comshaw

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

If this be true, me thinks thou shoulds climb from the comforting folds of your mothers bosom, leave your cloistered life in the basement and come out into the real world.



Comshaw

lol @ your avy

 

[CandiCame]

I didn't read the thread, but you can watch all of Ghibli's films here: http://www.watchcartoononline.com/movie-list

As well as some other really good movies. Grave of Fireflies is fucking depressing, so know that going in. But Howl Miyazaki is a fucking genius. That man and his hard-working team do things with cell animation that haven't been seen since the early days of Disney. He's easily one of my favorite artists. I've never seen a Ghibli movie I didn't like.

These are all movies that are worth watching, especially if you like animation.

Castle in the Sky August 2, 1986 Hayao Miyazaki Isao Takahata Joe Hisaishi

Grave of the Fireflies April 16, 1988 Isao Takahata Toru Hara Michio Mamiya

My Neighbor Totoro Hayao Miyazaki Joe Hisaishi

Kiki's Delivery Service July 29, 1989 Hayao Miyazaki

Only Yesterday July 20, 1991 Isao Takahata Toshio Suzuki Katz Hoshi

Porco Rosso July 28, 1992 Hayao Miyazaki Joe Hisaishi

Pom Poko July 16, 1994 Isao Takahata Kōryū, Manto Watanabe, Yōko Ino, Masaru Gotō, Ryōjirō Furusawa

Whisper of the Heart July 15, 1995 Yoshifumi Kondō Hayao Miyazaki Yuji Nomi

Princess Mononoke July 12, 1997 Hayao Miyazaki Joe Hisaishi

My Neighbors the Yamadas July 17, 1999 Isao Takahata Akiko Yano

Spirited Away July 27, 2001 Hayao Miyazaki Joe Hisaishi

The Cat Returns July 19, 2002 Hiroyuki Morita Reiko Yoshida Toshio Suzuki and Nozomu Takahashi Yuji Nomi

Howl's Moving Castle November 20, 2004 Hayao Miyazaki Toshio Suzuki Joe Hisaishi

Tales from Earthsea July 29, 2006 Gorō Miyazaki Gorō Miyazaki and Keiko Niwa Tamiya Terashima

Ponyo July 19, 2008 Hayao Miyazaki Joe Hisaishi

Arrietty July 17, 2010 Hiromasa Yonebayashi Hayao Miyazaki and Keiko Niwa Cecile Corbel

From Up on Poppy Hill July 16, 2011 Gorō Miyazaki Satoshi Takebe

 

[blobfish]

If this be true, me thinks thou shoulds climb from the comforting folds of your mothers bosom, leave your cloistered life in the basement and come out into the real world.



Comshaw

Have you seen it?

 

[blobfish]

I didn't read the thread, but you can watch all of Ghibli's films here: http://www.watchcartoononline.com/movie-list

As well as some other really good movies. Grave of Fireflies is fucking depressing, so know that going in. But Howl Miyazaki is a fucking genius. That man and his hard-working team do things with cell animation that haven't been seen since the early days of Disney. He's easily one of my favorite artists. I've never seen a Ghibli movie I didn't like.

These are all movies that are worth watching, especially if you like animation.

Castle in the Sky August 2, 1986 Hayao Miyazaki Isao Takahata Joe Hisaishi

Grave of the Fireflies April 16, 1988 Isao Takahata Toru Hara Michio Mamiya

My Neighbor Totoro Hayao Miyazaki Joe Hisaishi

Kiki's Delivery Service July 29, 1989 Hayao Miyazaki

Only Yesterday July 20, 1991 Isao Takahata Toshio Suzuki Katz Hoshi

Porco Rosso July 28, 1992 Hayao Miyazaki Joe Hisaishi

Pom Poko July 16, 1994 Isao Takahata Kōryū, Manto Watanabe, Yōko Ino, Masaru Gotō, Ryōjirō Furusawa

Whisper of the Heart July 15, 1995 Yoshifumi Kondō Hayao Miyazaki Yuji Nomi

Princess Mononoke July 12, 1997 Hayao Miyazaki Joe Hisaishi

My Neighbors the Yamadas July 17, 1999 Isao Takahata Akiko Yano

Spirited Away July 27, 2001 Hayao Miyazaki Joe Hisaishi

The Cat Returns July 19, 2002 Hiroyuki Morita Reiko Yoshida Toshio Suzuki and Nozomu Takahashi Yuji Nomi

Howl's Moving Castle November 20, 2004 Hayao Miyazaki Toshio Suzuki Joe Hisaishi

Tales from Earthsea July 29, 2006 Gorō Miyazaki Gorō Miyazaki and Keiko Niwa Tamiya Terashima

Ponyo July 19, 2008 Hayao Miyazaki Joe Hisaishi

Arrietty July 17, 2010 Hiromasa Yonebayashi Hayao Miyazaki and Keiko Niwa Cecile Corbel

From Up on Poppy Hill July 16, 2011 Gorō Miyazaki Satoshi Takebe

Thanks for the link!

 

[CandiCame]

Thanks for the link!

You're welcome- that's actually a really good site. They've got the new Eva movies and the like too. I just finished up all of Eva with my little brother (he's 12) and he refuses to watch the new movie because after Shinji jacking off to Ausuka when she was in the coma he was just like, "Yeah, that's enough of that." Neither of us can really stand Shinji anyway, but I'm glad that I got him to watch them. Good bonding experience and all that.

As far as my favorite Ghibli movie, I'd have a really hard time. It'd be impossible to pick a favorite. But Grave of Fireflies is one of those movies that you watch on the same night as Boys Don't Cry, Moulin Rouge and Rent. Watch that when you wanna just fucking sit and cry.

Howl's moving castle's just gorgeous. Throwing that out there- especially the scenery. Howl's bedroom alone is very intricate, almost Rococo. Reminds me of Froud... But I would certainly suggest that everyone watch anything that this studio has ever touched.

 

[SuprSalor]

Sai kano or Now and Then, Here and There are two other anti-war animes worth watching. Saikano is closer to GotF than the latter as far as better animation and much sadder as well.

The Place Promised In Our Early Days and 5 Centimeters per Second are two anime movies which have absolutely beautiful animation as well.

 

[Comshaw]

Have you seen it?

In all honesty, no I have not. But to make this claim:

"This is the most poignant and devastatingly sincere war movie I've ever seen..."

about an animated feature is rather bold and in my estimation fallacious. There are literally hundreds of war movies that have been done over the years. Many of which are much more sincere than any animated feature could ever be.

The Red Badge of Courage
The Killing Fields
All Quiet on the Western Front
Saving Private Ryan
The Longest Day
Soldier Child

to name just a very few.

War is a nasty business. It always has been and always will be. That can't be portrayed in animation.

My sincere hope is that you believe what you wrote for the rest of your life. If you do it will mean you will die years from now never having had the opportunity to experience the bitter taste of fear, the stomach roiling smell of death or the utter despair that is indicative of that three letter word.

'nuff said

Comshaw

 

[JuneSummers]

I don't have the courage to watch Grave of the Fireflies. Average movies already make me cry, so I'm not sure how I will cope. I love Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke and Howl's Moving Castle though.

 

[CandiCame]

In all honesty, no I have not. But to make this claim:

"This is the most poignant and devastatingly sincere war movie I've ever seen..."

about an animated feature is rather bold and in my estimation fallacious. There are literally hundreds of war movies that have been done over the years. Many of which are much more sincere than any animated feature could ever be.

The Red Badge of Courage
The Killing Fields
All Quiet on the Western Front
Saving Private Ryan
The Longest Day
Soldier Child

to name just a very few.

War is a nasty business. It always has been and always will be. That can't be portrayed in animation.

My sincere hope is that you believe what you wrote for the rest of your life. If you do it will mean you will die years from now never having had the opportunity to experience the bitter taste of fear, the stomach roiling smell of death or the utter despair that is indicative of that three letter word.

'nuff said

Comshaw

I've seen all but the last 2. None of them moved me like Fireflies. The fact that you don't think animation can be moving kind of... shows how skewed you are from the beginning. The fact that you think Red Badge of Courage is anything but boring tells me that you have no idea what the word 'moving' actually means. That's a movie you sit through in history class. That's up there with "The Blue and the Grey". Again, I haven't seen the last two, but the rest aren't really moving at all. Fucking War Horse was ten times more moving then Red Badge of Courage.

 

[Comshaw]

I've seen all but the last 2. None of them moved me like Fireflies. The fact that you don't think animation can be moving kind of... shows how skewed you are from the beginning. The fact that you think Red Badge of Courage is anything but boring tells me that you have no idea what the word 'moving' actually means. That's a movie you sit through in history class. That's up there with "The Blue and the Grey". Again, I haven't seen the last two, but the rest aren't really moving at all. Fucking War Horse was ten times more moving then Red Badge of Courage.

I never claimed to be any thing but skewed. Life will do that. You think animation is moving? Cool. I hope you keeping believing that and enjoy it. Like I told Blob I hope you spend your life believing that way.

I never said it can't be impactful, just not as much as other media.

And yes RBC is something you sit through in history class. But what it comes down to is what filter you see it through. We each have them. It all depends on where they came from and how they got there. Some are colored with imagination, others with blood. Never forget that those dry history lessons are a chronicle of peoples lives and at one time was lived by someone.

War Horse was a very emotional movie; I can not argue otherwise. But ask yourself why? Perhaps because you had a pet at one time you loved that way? So you had some experience to color that filter with.

You can claim what ever you wish. If you feel what is trying to be conveyed, that's grand. Makes no never mind to me. But for my two cents worth, animation can never reach the emotional level or impactful insight that a real film with real actors can.

It's like comparing a comic book to a novel; the pictures are a lot better in the novel.


Ta


Comshaw

 

[blobfish]

I never claimed to be any thing but skewed. Life will do that. You think animation is moving? Cool. I hope you keeping believing that and enjoy it. Like I told Blob I hope you spend your life believing that way.

I never said it can't be impactful, just not as much as other media.

And yes RBC is something you sit through in history class. But what it comes down to is what filter you see it through. We each have them. It all depends on where they came from and how they got there. Some are colored with imagination, others with blood. Never forget that those dry history lessons are a chronicle of peoples lives and at one time was lived by someone.

War Horse was a very emotional movie; I can not argue otherwise. But ask yourself why? Perhaps because you had a pet at one time you loved that way? So you had some experience to color that filter with.

You can claim what ever you wish. If you feel what is trying to be conveyed, that's grand. Makes no never mind to me. But for my two cents worth, animation can never reach the emotional level or impactful insight that a real film with real actors can.

It's like comparing a comic book to a novel; the pictures are a lot better in the novel.


Ta


Comshaw

Which animated movies have you seen? If your experience with animations begins and ends with children's movies, then you don't really understand the things that can be expressed through animation. That would be like watching Flubber and assuming that all live action films are family comedies.

 

[CandiCame]

I never claimed to be any thing but skewed. Life will do that. You think animation is moving? Cool. I hope you keeping believing that and enjoy it. Like I told Blob I hope you spend your life believing that way.

I never said it can't be impactful, just not as much as other media.

And yes RBC is something you sit through in history class. But what it comes down to is what filter you see it through. We each have them. It all depends on where they came from and how they got there. Some are colored with imagination, others with blood. Never forget that those dry history lessons are a chronicle of peoples lives and at one time was lived by someone.

War Horse was a very emotional movie; I can not argue otherwise. But ask yourself why? Perhaps because you had a pet at one time you loved that way? So you had some experience to color that filter with.

You can claim what ever you wish. If you feel what is trying to be conveyed, that's grand. Makes no never mind to me. But for my two cents worth, animation can never reach the emotional level or impactful insight that a real film with real actors can.

It's like comparing a comic book to a novel; the pictures are a lot better in the novel.


Ta


Comshaw

Not an artist are you?

There are reasons that comics make it on the NY Times bestseller list. A LOT of comics are on-par with novels; sequential art has been the preferred means of giving information to the masses since the fucking middle ages. MAUS is one of the highest rated books on the holocaust EVER. JTHM has more blood and gore then any live-action ANYTHING. What are you even TALKING about? Does your concept of animation begin and end at Chuck Jones?

 

[blobfish]

This one isn't as good as Fireflies, but it's worth watching.

Barefoot Gen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5IZwi1sFp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player