Cassidy Goodson, 14-Year-Old, Murders Her Newborn Baby

[JohnnySavage]

You cannot hold miles to standards if you excuse others from them.

Miles is the one who wanted a 14 year old girl "retroactively aborted" because she had the temerity to get pregnant. I've also told Vette he is/was a douche bag for wanting to put pregnant teen women (just the women, not the men) in concentration camps.

I have very high standards regarding what it is to be a "man." When given the opportunity and see a male falling short of being a man, I always address the short coming.

Both here and in real life.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Cassidy needs to learn that tho a rose is prettier and sweeter smelling than a cabbage, it doesnt make better soup.

Hmmmmm...



Interesting.

 

[kbate]

Those of us who hold that all abortion is murder.

Look, if you animalize people and condone their murder, then you have no right to be shocked at the level to which your young proteges will rise.

Now we're into tribal tattooing, piercing and minimizing of public attire as we madly rush to embrace The New Primitive.

I just do not see how, with the lack of standard, beneficent infanticide can be labeled as murder and acquire such trappings of shock and disgust when it is an actual logical conclusion to the relativistic notions that standards are pretty much an individual assessment and decision.

I thought you'd be overjoyed by this girl's actions. She did the responsible thing and carried the child to term, so that she could be held accountable by the legal system for the murder.

Yet you keep calling her irresponsible, she chose Prison for Life instead of being a 'bad mother or "that girl who had an abortion".

 

[zipman]

That is a reprehensible form of debate known as ad hominem.

That makes you lower than us.

Is it Ad Hominem if it's true and the person isn't debating you on the points but is merely disgusted with the kind of person you are based on your comments?

Because I think "disgusting" was putting it midlly.

 

[CandiCame]

Sad - yes. But she didn't "fall" pregnant. Unless she was forcibly impregnated she's responsible for the pregnancy.

The vast majority of teen pregnancies are forced. If not republican "forced" rape, then statutory rape. For someone this young, it's very likely that the father of the child was an adult, and actually pretty likely that it was a family member. It's rare that a very young teen gets another very young teen pregnant. Almost 80% of teen mothers were impregnated by an adult male, and around 60%-75% (depending on the source) were "forcibly" raped.

http://www.thenationalcampaign.org/why-it-matters/pdf/fatherhood.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_pregnancy
http://www.crisiscenter.org/pdfs/Teen_Pregnancy_and_SA_doc.pdf

Not even the point that I am making.

You dress girls up like sluts, tell us not to stare at their displayed breasts, import to us that dress is not invitation and modesty an outmoded "Christian" ideal that does not cede to the reality that they are nothing but little animals driven by pure biological urges and then have the temerity to inform us that they have all the required tools to make an adult decision as to what to do to her body and to add insult to injury we have a leader in this nation who believes "viable" survivors of abortion should be murdered so following this reason only dictates to me that this was her own low-cost, back alley, late term abortion by birth, the unviable survivor was not wanted, ergo it is not murder; it is saving society the overwhelming cost of raising an unwanted (therefore criminal) child.

:kbate:

Dude, if you really can't help raping a 13-year-old because you think she's dressed provocitably, you need psychiatric help. You should be able to run around naked and not get raped. I don't even really know how to respond to something like this. I urge you to get help. There are a number of places where you can go to recieve treatment for your problems. I don't know where you live, but http://www.mentalhealthamerica.net/ can help you find low-cost or even free treatment centers in your area. This is a bad problem. You're a potential rapist, but you have the power to overcome it before any harm is done.

No responsibility for the guy that got her pregnant? He's exempt from your scorn? Why don't you want him retroactively aborted?

You and your butt-buddies here are disgusting human beings, and pathetic excuses for men.

But there is help available. You don't have to stay like that.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Miles is the one who wanted a 14 year old girl "retroactively aborted" because she had the temerity to get pregnant. I've also told Vette he is/was a douche bag for wanting to put pregnant teen women (just the women, not the men) in concentration camps.

I have very high standards regarding what it is to be a "man." When given the opportunity and see a male falling short of being a man, I always address the short coming.

Both here and in real life.

I took it for what it was: snark, not conviction, as false as the manufactured outrage of the OP, one of those who are men only as an afterthought instead of seeing the reality that they are men who cower before the charge, "you want to tell a woman what to do with her body," generally a charge leveled by someone with the faux moral superiority that they are the ones who can ascertain the date certain when they can begin to tell that same damned woman what she can, or cannot do with her body/baby.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

We oughta consider elevating children to the importance of tobacco use and calorie counting.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

"Dude, if you really can't help raping a 13-year-old because you think she's dressed provocitably, you need psychiatric help. You should be able to run around naked and not get raped."

You need to step back and see the larger picture of my point.

In strategy, it is important to keep a near view of distanced things and a distanced view of near things.
Miyamoto Musashi

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I thought you'd be overjoyed by this girl's actions. She did the responsible thing and carried the child to term, so that she could be held accountable by the legal system for the murder.

Yet you keep calling her irresponsible, she chose Prison for Life instead of being a 'bad mother or "that girl who had an abortion".

It is not about me but about the outrage expressed initially about her doing that which is commonplace.

The OP, and fellows, are only bothered by the timeline.

 

[kbate]

Is it Ad Hominem if it's true and the person isn't debating you on the points but is merely disgusted with the kind of person you are based on your comments?

Because I think "disgusting" was putting it midlly.

One would have to take both sentences as separate in order to make that assumption. Taken together, he is attacking the "butt buddies" because they did not attack the person who got this girl pregnant - which is basically using a red herring to generate an ad hominem and deflect from the topic - the girl's crime.

 

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[CandiCame]

"Dude, if you really can't help raping a 13-year-old because you think she's dressed provocitably, you need psychiatric help. You should be able to run around naked and not get raped."

You need to step back and see the larger picture of my point.

In strategy, it is important to keep a near view of distanced things and a distanced view of near things.
Miyamoto Musashi

Blah blah blah society blah blah blah dressed slutty blah blah blah cheaper to kill it.

What kind of fucking point is that?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Blah blah blah society blah blah blah dressed slutty blah blah blah cheaper to kill it.

What kind of fucking point is that?

You are picking words and phrases that touch your sensibilities, taking them from the argument, viewing them in isolation and then reconstructing the argument to something that it is not...

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

Her mother should have taught her how to keep her knees together.

Her mother's message would get drowned out by the messaging being delivered by the pop culture and the angry howls of relativism...

 

[CandiCame]

Her mother should have taught her how to keep her knees together.

Or her father should have taken a shotgun to the adult that got her pregnant. That's how shit works here. If we're gonna be steriotypical about it, this has gone outta ma's scope at this point and somebody's getting their fucking door busted down. And that's not even just an Appalachian thing- don't you remember Peter Griffen when he thought Meg was pregnant loading his shotgun?

And Meg was all, "Dad no!"
And he was like, "I just wanna talk to him."
"DAD!"
"I'm just gonna talk to him."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApE5nfxJWzA

 

[CandiCame]

You are picking words and phrases that touch your sensibilities, taking them from the argument, viewing them in isolation and then reconstructing the argument to something that it is not...

Then what did you mean to say?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You are picking words and phrases that touch your sensibilities, taking them from the argument, viewing them in isolation and then reconstructing the argument to something that it is not...

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You're a stupid mother fucker and a god damn liar. I never said any such thing, you fat fucking slob. Fuck off.

When you get to these emotional touchstone issues, people quickly hunker down in their corners and begin attacking what they think you are, or have, or will say...

There is no need to read, everyone "knows."

It is gut...

 

[JohnnySavage]

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You're a stupid mother fucker and a god damn liar. I never said any such thing, you fat fucking slob. Fuck off.

Yes, you did. Right after you wanted to throw people exercising their first amendment rights off the bridge. Not important though, other's can find the post if they are interested.

What's important here, is that I'm not at all a fat slob. In fact, I'm a rather striking figure of a middle-aged man. Nearly 6' tall. Just under 200 pounds. BMI of about 15%. Fairly fit for a man of 48 years.

 

[miles]

No responsibility for the guy that got her pregnant? He's exempt from your scorn? Why don't you want him retroactively aborted?

You and your butt-buddies here are disgusting human beings, and pathetic excuses for men.

Did I say the guy wasn't responsible? I didn't, did I? You made it up.

Fucking retard.

 

[miles]

Yes, you did. Right after you wanted to throw people exercising their first amendment rights off the bridge. Not important though, other's can find the post if they are interested.

What's important here, is that I'm not at all a fat slob. In fact, I'm a rather striking figure of a middle-aged man. Nearly 6' tall. Just under 200 pounds. BMI of about 15%. Fairly fit for a man of 48 years.

Nearly six feet tall - 5'4".

 

[JohnnySavage]

Did I say the guy wasn't responsible? I didn't, did I? You made it up.

Fucking retard.

I didn't say you didn't say the guy was responsible. See how that works?

Fucking retard.

 

[miles]

1. I'm not debating, I'm calling a douche bag a douche bag.

2. "us"?

This guy is fucking hilarious.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Nearly six feet tall - 5'4".

*shrugs*

People from here have met me. As people have met you too; but as I understand it, you were in a hotel by the airport cheating on your wife at the time.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Then what did you mean to say?

Go back and read what I posted, digest it, and try not to filter it...

It is as merely simple as the two-fold;

You say they are animals but allow them adult decisions.

You say that it is murder, but only after the point in time that you are comfortable with coupled with the definition of viability that best suits your senses...

... with a strong side dish of the Kulturen Welt of relax, just do it, when you want to get to it (no one will judge you except the scum of the earth remix).