Time to revisit the issue of funding NPR...

[CHNOPS]

No one has a comment on this?

No one commenting on it, was a comment on it.

 

[cjh]

There you go again, equating "age" with "wisdom".

I honestly think you are one of the top 4 dumbest son of a bitches on the General Board. I don't mean that as an insult, just an observation. I can't recall the last time you offered an original insight.

It involved canned corn and sneakers.

 

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[CHNOPS]

I highly doubt that. I have two advanced degrees from one of the most respected, although conservative, universities in the nation.

And yet you still thought "LongPenStroke" was a good and clever choice for a screen name.

 

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[IrezumiKiss]

In 2010, NPR revenues totaled $180 million, with the bulk of revenues coming from programming fees, grants from foundations or business entities, contributions and sponsorships.[18] According to the 2009 financial statement, about 50% of NPR revenues come from the fees it charges member stations for programming and distribution charges.[18] Typically, NPR member stations receive funds through on-air pledge drives, corporate underwriting, state and local governments, educational institutions, and the federally funded Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB). In 2009, member stations derived 6% of their revenue from federal, state and local government funding, 10% of their revenue from CPB grants, and 14% of their revenue from universities.[18][24] While NPR does not receive any direct federal funding, it does receive a small number of competitive grants from CPB and federal agencies like the Department of Education and the Department of Commerce. This funding amounts to approximately 2% of NPR’s overall revenues.[18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPR#Funding

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It's easy to see that whatever investment your parents made in your alleged education was a pitiful waste of their hard earned money. It's obvious you have two advanced degrees in Applied Naivete.

My money is that LongPen could likely run intelligence rings around you like you were Saturn, but in your defense, I will say that nobody has mastered and can do the art of Thesaurus-Fu Verbosity quite the way you do.

 

[LongPenStroke]

It's easy to see that whatever investment your parents made in your alleged education was a pitiful waste of their hard earned money. It's obvious you have two advanced degrees in Applied Naivete.

Actually, I paid for my undergrad with GI Bill, and my advanced degrees were paid through scholarships and grants.

Now, you have one of three choices, either answer the question that started this exchange, admit you have no idea what you are talking about, or make another personal attack against me.

Somehow, based on your past experience, I believe you will go with a personal attack.

 

[Peregrinator]

I don't have a problem with Rush, Tom Hartman or Ed Schultze being broadcast on AFN.

Of course not. Taxpayers funding right-wing propaganda is just your cuppa.

 

[koalabear]

Of course not. Taxpayers funding right-wing propaganda is just your cuppa.

^^^remember, he is not a lib.

 

[Peregrinator]

^^^remember, he is not a lib.

The libs have no equivalent of Rush. He's a badass at what he does. If they had one, and he was broadcast to the troops on the taxpayers' dime, it would be an equally compelling argument.

But wait, sorry, I didn't mean to frighten you with logic again.

 

[koalabear]

The libs have no equivalent of Rush. He's a badass at what he does. If they had one, and he was broadcast to the troops on the taxpayers' dime, it would be an equally compelling argument.

But wait, sorry, I didn't mean to frighten you with logic again.

Logic, coward!

 

[Peregrinator]

Logic, coward!

Nipples, GNR!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Of course you do mean it as an insult, you big windy failure in life.

No, I typically use insults to draw attention to your lack of character.

I mostly pity your ignorance, and I'm amused at the fact that you actually consider yourself somewhat intelligent.

Honestly, did you even graduate high school?

 

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[LongPenStroke]

NPR is a big government promoting, liberally biased, government funded, propaganda mill who's ideas, philosophy, political points of view, couldn't sell a box of corn flakes or hold the interests of a vast majority of Americans, thus requiring government subsidy to survive in the marketplace of ideas. It's history is rife with accusations of bias and they are known to make their commentators tow the liberal line.

Again, I ask, they are liberal compared to what. Who would you consider middle of the road, and what would you consider conservative?

This is a really simple question, let's see if you can answer it.

 

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[Peregrinator]

Here’s how 20 major media outlets rank on Groseclose and Milyo’s slant scale, with 100 representing the most liberal and zero the most conservative:

ABC Good Morning America
56.1


ABC World News Tonight
61.0


CBS Early Show
66.6


CBS Evening News
73.7


CNN NewsNight with Aaron Brown
56.0


Drudge Report
60.4


Fox News Spec. Rept. w/ Brit Hume
39.7


Los Angeles Times
70.0


NBC Nightly News
61.6


NBC Today Show
64.0


New York Times
73.7


Newshour with Jim Lehrer
55.8


Newsweek
66.3


NPR Morning Edition
66.3


Time Magazine
65.4


U.S. News and World Report
65.8


USA Today
63.4


Wall Street Journal
85.1


Washington Post
66.6


Washington Times
35.4

http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/02/16/how-biased-is-your-media/

 

[LongPenStroke]

Why should I have to answer it? It's obviously the perception of the government itself, and many others, including UCLA and the University of Missouri, who did studies on the issue and found the same thing. It's been the subject of one congressional investigation after another and amply testified to.

The fact that you don't have the same perception doesn't mean it isn't there or that multitudes of people are wrong about it. You can have your opinion of reality, and I can have mine.

Give me empirical evidence to support your statement. Your basing your hypothesis on what you believe to be liberal, and what you believe to be conservative.

I helped you out and gave you links to the big words so you understand what I am saying.

 

[LongPenStroke]

Here’s how 20 major media outlets rank on Groseclose and Milyo’s slant scale, with 100 representing the most liberal and zero the most conservative:

ABC Good Morning America
56.1


ABC World News Tonight
61.0


CBS Early Show
66.6


CBS Evening News
73.7


CNN NewsNight with Aaron Brown
56.0


Drudge Report
60.4


Fox News Spec. Rept. w/ Brit Hume
39.7


Los Angeles Times
70.0


NBC Nightly News
61.6


NBC Today Show
64.0


New York Times
73.7


Newshour with Jim Lehrer
55.8


Newsweek
66.3


NPR Morning Edition
66.3


Time Magazine
65.4


U.S. News and World Report
65.8


USA Today
63.4


Wall Street Journal
85.1


Washington Post
66.6


Washington Times
35.4

http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/02/16/how-biased-is-your-media/

This is nice, but it really doesn't prove anything. What I view as conservative, someone else might view as liberal. There is no way to truly measure how liberal or conservative anyone or anything is unless you are using text book definitions.

Let's be honest, just because someone puts something in a title, doesn't mean that that is what it is. North Korea calls itself a republic, but in truth they are a dictatorship. The USSR called itself socialist, and we referred to it as communist, but in truth it was neither, it, too, was a dictatorship.

People. governments and organizations can label anything they want, but that equals to judging a book by it's cover and not actually comparing it to what it really is.

This is why I ask what people view as conservative and liberal, everyone's opinion is different.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

After the hot mic caught them playing politics and the firing of Juan Williams, we know they are only serving the Democratic part of our nation, so why should those of us in their crosshairs be tapped for funding without getting so much as a tote out of them...

The big lesson for me [working at NPR] was the intolerance of so-called liberals. I say intolerance because I grew up as a black Democrat in Brooklyn, N.Y., and always thought it was the Archie Bunker Republicans who practiced intolerance. My experience at NPR revealed to me how rigid liberals can be when their orthodoxy is challenged. I was the devil for simply raising questions, offering a different viewpoint, not shutting my mouth about the excesses of liberalism — a bad guy, a traitor to the cause.
Juan Williams

I agree with you. And in the same spirit as "those in the cross hairs" not having to pay for the privilege, the same bill that revokes NPR funding should revoke tax-free status for Creation Land and other religious based organizations.

 

[mercury14]

Has any conservative here ever said what news network they believe is middle of the road?

 

[mercury14]

This is nice, but it really doesn't prove anything. What I view as conservative, someone else might view as liberal. There is no way to truly measure how liberal or conservative anyone or anything is unless you are using text book definitions.

Let's be honest, just because someone puts something in a title, doesn't mean that that is what it is. North Korea calls itself a republic, but in truth they are a dictatorship. The USSR called itself socialist, and we referred to it as communist, but in truth it was neither, it, too, was a dictatorship.

People. governments and organizations can label anything they want, but that equals to judging a book by it's cover and not actually comparing it to what it really is.

This is why I ask what people view as conservative and liberal, everyone's opinion is different.

Their methodology was to basically count how many times they cited left wing vs right wing think tanks. Fox News cites Heritage and Cato regularly so they get put on the right. Meh.

According to them, Drudge is liberal. Not sure this is a valid study.

 

[mercury14]

Claire McCaskill up +5 in the RCP. +6 according to Rasmussen.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

How do conservatives feel about Rush Limbaugh being broadcast on the Armed Forces Network?

You mean like NPR?

THe show football too. That's for the troops and has nothing to do with our funding of the liberal news because Limbaugh ain't the news; he's commentary...

I'm guessing you love you some NPR.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Has any conservative here ever said what news network they believe is middle of the road?

You are bound and determined to turn this into a discussion of anything but the topic.