How to make amends?

[KierstH12]

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[heavyhitter01]

You see it as a tiny facet. What you fail to see is the creepy, stalker vibe you give off about yourself when you admit to what you are doing. Not only are you strangely obsessed with your friends' lives, you also have an over active since of vengeance. These are not attractive qualities.

Does that mean we won't be shagging anytime soon, then?

 

[Lord Pmann]

I believe I am in love with pmann. Hi pmann, it is nice to meet you. Please do not get creeped out by my admission of love even though I do not know you.

I'm used to it. You'd be surprised how often this happens. You just better not be any relation to any of HH's friends.

 

[heavyhitter01]

Your logic baffles me. Yes, this may be one small snippet of your life. But follow this logic with me.

Let's say I am a really good guy. I do good things. I go to church. I treat women with respect. I'm practically an angel. And to top it off, I make the best damn McRib in the south. But, this one time, I fucked a goat.

You see how that one event overshadows the rest?

Sure, it can overshadow the rest. But most people would immediately hear "I fucked a goat" and ask "Why the hell would you do that?" And then they might hear what they expect, in which case they say, "Ugh, you are now creepy." But they might hear something they do NOT expect, in which case they might look at the "I fucked a goat" statement in a different light.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying that most people see the world in shades of gray, not in black and white.

 

[KierstH12]

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[heavyhitter01]

Considering how condescending, creepy and stalker-like you are. I am sorry to tell you my standards for shagging are too high to include you. Not that they have to be very high to keep you off the list.

Huh...how condescending!

 

[Lord Pmann]

Sure, it can overshadow the rest. But most people would immediately hear "I fucked a goat" and ask "Why the hell would you do that?" And then they might hear what they expect, in which case they say, "Ugh, you are now creepy." But they might hear something they do NOT expect, in which case they might look at the "I fucked a goat" statement in a different light.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying that most people see the world in shades of gray, not in black and white.

If you saw what that goat was wearing, you'd know she was begging for a shag.

 

[heavyhitter01]

If you saw what that goat was wearing, you'd know she was begging for a shag.

So we shouldn't be surprised that you reamed her a good one?

 

[Lord Pmann]

Pmann... you don't get it. Just because your adverse to eating shit doesn't mean everyone else is. Some people think eating shit is heroic. Women like men who eat shit.

Silly me. I thought I knew women.

Huh...how condescending!

Perhaps a glass slipper for Condescenderella? She'd look dashing I'm sure.

http://www.cinderellasbroomcloset.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/cinderell-glass-slipper45.jpg

 

[Lord Pmann]

So we shouldn't be surprised that you reamed her a good one?

I don't kiss and tell. That's baaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhd.

 

[Lord Pmann]

This makes me think of my favourite joke:

An Australian farmer is standing in his barn when a wandering traveler comes up. The traveler says, "I see your beautiful animals and I was wondering of I could talk to them. May I start with the horse?"

The farmer says, "Certainly you can, but these are just animals, they can't talk."

The traveler walks over to the horse and says, "How are you horse? Do you enjoy it here? Is your master kind to you?"

The horse responds, "Indeed. He feeds me, he spends time making sure I am healthy and he gives me a nice shelter."

The farmer is amazed at the horse's ability to talk. He can't believe what he is seeing.

The traveler asks, "May I speak with the pig next?"

"Sure you can, but he is a pig and he can't talk."

"Hey pig? How are you? Does your master treat you well? Do you enjoy it?"

The pig snorts and responds, "Indeed. I get a nice trough, lots of good slop to eat and a pile of mud to lay in. It's wonderful here."

The farmer is amazed at the speaking ability of the pig.

The traveler looks over and sees a sheep in the corner, where he saw the farmer standing when he walked in. "May I speak to the sheep?"

The farmer gets nervous and responds, "You can, but do not listen to a word he says about me! That's sheep's a fucking liar!"

 

[Lord Pmann]

Pmann...I'd like to point out you have your antipodeans mixed up. It's the New Zealanders that fuck sheep, not the Australians. We're too busy drinking beer to bother with that rot.

Ye all talk with that same funny accent.

And you Aussies drink so much beer you have no idea what you do with the sheep whilst you're knackered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaHkEH3nk8w&sns=em

 

[Lord Pmann]

Lucky you don't have to hear me talk then huh

I know. Hearing you go on about koala bears and kangaroos and dingos. Because that's what Australian people talk about.

And yeah HH, we wanna hear your voice. If you leave us a recording, Rainshine will leave one about dingos and kangaroos.

 

[heavyhitter01]

Lucky you don't have to hear me talk then huh

Speaking off.... HH where's your vocal manifesto?

What? I haven't given you enough of a manifesto in this thread?

 

[whynotjustsayit]

No, no, no! You cannot be this stupid! No woman interested in dating is going to come to this thread and decide you are a gentleman and hero. They will read the great lengths you have gone to to out TL and the first thought they will have is *I wonder what happens if I anger him or decide to break up with him?*. They will run for the hills for fear of what retaliation you will unleash on them if they cross you or anger you.

Heartily seconded.

I'm used to it. You'd be surprised how often this happens. You just better not be any relation to any of HH's friends.

Perrrrrrrrrrrrfect, hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

 

[whynotjustsayit]

I agree with this 100%. What does HH want for TL? That she's unemployed and homeless? It takes people months and sometimes years to get new jobs these days.

I never got an answer about this. Do you HOPE that TL gets fired, HH ? Because why else would you involve her job in her personal life shenanigans?

I believe you mentioned already she's in a job where you feel her moral character has bearing on what she does and the example she sets is important. But if her problems outside of work are not manifest at work, then, how does that theory hold up?

 

[heavyhitter01]

I never got an answer about this. Do you HOPE that TL gets fired, HH ? Because why else would you involve her job in her personal life shenanigans?

I believe you mentioned already she's in a job where you feel her moral character has bearing on what she does and the example she sets is important. But if her problems outside of work are not manifest at work, then, how does that theory hold up?

I'm sorry that I missed this question the first time around.

I don't necessarily hope she gets fired, though I wouldn't be sad if she did. Bringing her job into is simply a means to an end. This is someone who is so selfish that the only thing that will get through to her is something substantial, something she can't lie or sweet-talk her way out of.

I also stand by my belief that a woman with no conscience or integrity should be allowed in a position that puts her anywhere near children. So if she does get fired, that's a bonus.

 

[Lord Pmann]

I'm sorry that I missed this question the first time around.

I don't necessarily hope she gets fired, though I wouldn't be sad if she did. Bringing her job into is simply a means to an end. This is someone who is so selfish that the only thing that will get through to her is something substantial, something she can't lie or sweet-talk her way out of.

I also stand by my belief that a woman with no conscience or integrity should be allowed in a position that puts her anywhere near children. So if she does get fired, that's a bonus.

Means to an end huh? Well, aren't you just a little Niccolò Machiavelli?

I stand by the belief that someone as vengeful as you shouldn't be around food, lest you turn my McRib into a McPoison with some arsenic.

 

[heavyhitter01]

Means to an end huh? Well, aren't you just a little Niccolò Machiavelli?

I stand by the belief that someone as vengeful as you shouldn't be around food, lest you turn my McRib into a McPoison with some arsenic.

And I repeat, again, that as long as you haven't messed with my friends, you have nothing to worry about. Come on, man. You're obviously not slow. Pay attention.

 

[whynotjustsayit]

I'm sorry that I missed this question the first time around.

I don't necessarily hope she gets fired, though I wouldn't be sad if she did. Bringing her job into is simply a means to an end. This is someone who is so selfish that the only thing that will get through to her is something substantial, something she can't lie or sweet-talk her way out of.

I also stand by my belief that a woman with no conscience or integrity should be allowed in a position that puts her anywhere near children. So if she does get fired, that's a bonus.

So, you don't subscribe to the idea and eye for an eye then...in this case, you want beheading for an eye? She messed with your friends. According to you she is an unrepentant slut who wouldn't leave your male friend alone.

For that, she deserves to lose her job and maybe wind up homeless if she can't find another one within a reasonable time period ?

You don't think people with skeletons in their closets and questionable morality work with children all the time? As long as they do their jobs and don't discuss their personal lives with the children, isn't your logic a bit over the top ?

 

[heavyhitter01]

So, you don't subscribe to the idea and eye for an eye then...in this case, you want beheading for an eye? She messed with your friends. According to you she is an unrepentant slut who wouldn't leave your male friend alone.

For that, she deserves to lose her job and maybe wind up homeless if she can't find another one within a reasonable time period ?

You don't think people with skeletons in their closets and questionable morality work with children all the time? As long as they do their jobs and don't discuss their personal lives with the children, isn't your logic a bit over the top ?

She deserves to have whatever consequences her actions dredge up. If that means she loses her job, so be it. If it means she winds up homeless, I hope her family is forgiving enough to take her in. She should have thought about the wide-ranging consequences before she took the actions she did, just like everyone else usually does.

I'm sure people with terrible pasts and questionable morality do work with children -- after all, she was a school teacher for a while. It's a shame, and if it were possible to weed those people out of the jobs that deal with children, that would be a good thing. I'm sure no one wants children exposed to someone like that.

 

[Lord Pmann]

And I repeat, again, that as long as you haven't messed with my friends, you have nothing to worry about. Come on, man. You're obviously not slow. Pay attention.

But if I had messed with your friend's you'd poison me?

I get what you are saying. It's your friends. But I'm trying to show the flaws in your logic. TL hasn't done anything to indicate she would hurt kids. That's why I think that was specifically too rough.

 

[Lord Pmann]

She deserves to have whatever consequences her actions dredge up. If that means she loses her job, so be it. If it means she winds up homeless, I hope her family is forgiving enough to take her in. She should have thought about the wide-ranging consequences before she took the actions she did, just like everyone else usually does.

I'm sure she didn't expect these consequences. I mean, at worst an affair normally leads to a broken home and the clap and maybe something that walks and goes to college eventually. But what you are describing as natural consequences are not that. It's the equivalent of the death penalty for theft.

 

[heavyhitter01]

But if I had messed with your friend's you'd poison me?

I get what you are saying. It's your friends. But I'm trying to show the flaws in your logic. TL hasn't done anything to indicate she would hurt kids. That's why I think that was specifically too rough.

There might appear to be flaws in my logic. But let me say this: Just because you have part of the story doesn't mean you have all of the story. And I will leave it at that.

 

[whynotjustsayit]

She deserves to have whatever consequences her actions dredge up. If that means she loses her job, so be it. If it means she winds up homeless, I hope her family is forgiving enough to take her in. She should have thought about the wide-ranging consequences before she took the actions she did, just like everyone else usually does.

I'm sure people with terrible pasts and questionable morality do work with children -- after all, she was a school teacher for a while. It's a shame, and if it were possible to weed those people out of the jobs that deal with children, that would be a good thing. I'm sure no one wants children exposed to someone like that.

You'd better hope in this lifetime that nobody else equates something you've done that they don't approve of with the kind of vengeance/justice you are exacting upon TL. And I know you claim to live a blameless/spotless/fully accountable life, but you'd be surprised (or maybe you wouldn't) how LITTLE it takes to set some other people off in this world. Maybe one day someone like that is going to come after you...with his or her own grandiose, inflexible set of judgments about what you "deserve."

And why limit TL's punishment to being someone whom should be prevented working around children? I mean, she crossed the line with your friends, so couldn't you go as far as to apply your logic and say she doesn't "deserve" to be working with and around other adults of integrity and firm, righteous morality ?