How to make amends?

[heavyhitter01]

You don't necessarily need ammunition to get revenge.

True...but it makes it much easier!

 

[Lord Pmann]

She could take artistic liberties with her revenge. Much like I take artistic liberties with my movies.

Hey, someone asked who is going to play the role of HH's mistress/married woman in the movie. I was thinking about a couple of people. But I had no one good.

Maybe I'm lame, but this thread has been great.

 

[heavyhitter01]

She could take artistic liberties with her revenge. Much like I take artistic liberties with my movies.

Hey, someone asked who is going to play the role of HH's mistress/married woman in the movie. I was thinking about a couple of people. But I had no one good.

Maybe I'm lame, but this thread has been great.

I vote Scarlett Johansson. I always suspected there was a bit of freak in her.

 

[Lord Pmann]

She's delicious.

Indeed. Culloden will have a blast playing HH's part.

 

[TeaforMe]

I vote Ryan Gosling as the broken hearted husband. He will needs lots and lots of comfort, given by me of course.



http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7h8dbPLVh1r9i49ro1_r1_500.jpg

 

[Lord Pmann]

I suppose the obvious thing would be for me to be his body double.

 

[heavyhitter01]

I'm actually cool with not being in this movie. Or trilogy.

Because that means I get to watch. I'll have my own chair in the creepy corner.

 

[blulilacgrl]

Okay I just have to say it. Is anyone else thinking or feeling the same way I am? Does anyone else realize the full ramifications of what HH has done? What he has proven can be done?

Originally Posted by The_Librarian View Post
My current name is self-explanatory.

I was once here under another name, but then I discovered that I was about to be "outed" to my friends, family, boss -- everyone. So I tried to cover it up by deleting all my old posts. The person who is outing me saved it all, however.

My former name had to do with "intrigue." I guess that intrigue is no longer.

He came here, admitted to deceiving a woman, gathering information on her, and then using that information on her to 'out' her to her friends, family, and coworkers.

I have to wonder as I watch the joking around with HH, how anyone can now feel comfortable. He has now proven that should someone feel that you have done something horrible, you better hope he/she doesn't find you here. You better hope he/she doesn't take it into his/her mind to come after you. And you better hope you aren't chatting with him/her right now.

I am in no way advocating or condoning her behavior. I think it was reprehensible. But neither does that mean I should condone HH's behavior and by his own admission, if I sit here and say nothing I am doing just that.

 

[heavyhitter01]

I have to wonder as I watch the joking around with HH, how anyone can now feel comfortable. He has now proven that should someone feel that you have done something horrible, you better hope he/she doesn't find you here. You better hope he/she doesn't take it into his/her mind to come after you. And you better hope you aren't chatting with him/her right now.

Two reasons, in my opinion:

One, I'm not the evil ogre or troll so many seem to think I am. You would probably be surprised by how many PMs of support I have received as of late.

Two, and most importantly, no one here has messed with my friends. No one bantering back and forth with me even knows who my friends are, or knows much about me, for that matter.

I think it is VERY clear why I came here, and because they know that, they also know I am not a threat to THEM.

Maybe some don't agree with my actions toward ms_intrigue, but saying they should be afraid I will do the same to THEM is a huge leap.

 

[bailadora]

Okay I just have to say it. Is anyone else thinking or feeling the same way I am? Does anyone else realize the full ramifications of what HH has done? What he has proven can be done?

Originally Posted by The_Librarian View Post
My current name is self-explanatory.

I was once here under another name, but then I discovered that I was about to be "outed" to my friends, family, boss -- everyone. So I tried to cover it up by deleting all my old posts. The person who is outing me saved it all, however.

My former name had to do with "intrigue." I guess that intrigue is no longer.

He came here, admitted to deceiving a woman, gathering information on her, and then using that information on her to 'out' her to her friends, family, and coworkers.

I have to wonder as I watch the joking around with HH, how anyone can now feel comfortable. He has now proven that should someone feel that you have done something horrible, you better hope he/she doesn't find you here. You better hope he/she doesn't take it into his/her mind to come after you. And you better hope you aren't chatting with him/her right now.

I am in no way advocating or condoning her behavior. I think it was reprehensible. But neither does that mean I should condone HH's behavior and by his own admission, if I sit here and say nothing I am doing just that.

I pointed out umpteen pages ago the problems and pitfalls of moral vigilantism and why, I, personally found what he was doing so objectionable. So no, this is not new territory. The bottom line is that he didn't care, didn't agree, whatever. In his mind, he's more than justified for what he did. You're not going to convince him otherwise, so why beat a dead horse?

 

[heavyhitter01]

Okay I just have to say it. Is anyone else thinking or feeling the same way I am? Does anyone else realize the full ramifications of what HH has done? What he has proven can be done?

The more I think about this...what exactly are you trying to say? What I did with ms_intrigue was NOT rocket science. It was not difficult. In fact, anyone could do it if one of the parties was silly enough to put so much information online and to trust anyone they don't really know.

Are you upset because I actually did it, or because my actions pointed out how vulnerable those having affairs/cheating/etc. really are?

 

[blulilacgrl]

Two reasons, in my opinion:

One, I'm not the evil ogre or troll so many seem to think I am. You would probably be surprised by how many PMs of support I have received as of late.

Two, and most importantly, no one here has messed with my friends. No one bantering back and forth with me even knows who my friends are, or knows much about me, for that matter.

I think it is VERY clear why I came here, and because they know that, they also know I am not a threat to THEM.

Maybe some don't agree with my actions toward ms_intrigue, but saying they should be afraid I will do the same to THEM is a huge leap.

No you didn't read carefully enough. Go back and read. Better yet, let me highlight for you.

Does anyone else realize the full ramifications of what HH has done? What he has proven can be done?

He has now proven that should someone feel that you have done something horrible, you better hope he/she doesn't find you here. You better hope he/she doesn't take it into his/her mind to come after you. And you better hope you aren't chatting with him/her right now.

Do you get it now? In your zeal to make The Librarian pay for her sins. You have made me feel less safe. Not because I am immoral or corrupt. Not because I am a horrible person. But because this is an erotica site. People come here to indulge in their fantasies. They rely on their anonymity to do so. And what you have proven is that should someone, anyone, feel slighted or morally outraged, that person can come here and deceive, stalk, and copy posts to use as weapons in RL.

So I ask again. Does anyone else feel the same way I do? Does anyone else see the far-reaching ramifications of what HH has done? HH do you even see it?

 

[heavyhitter01]

Do you get it now? In your zeal to make The Librarian pay for her sins. You have made me feel less safe. Not because I am immoral or corrupt. Not because I am a horrible person. But because this is an erotica site. People come here to indulge in their fantasies. They rely on their anonymity to do so. And what you have proven is that should someone, anyone, feel slighted or morally outraged, that person can come here and deceive, stalk, and copy posts to use as weapons in RL.

So I ask again. Does anyone else feel the same way I do? Does anyone else see the far-reaching ramifications of what HH has done? HH do you even see it?

I didn't quite understand the wording of your post at first. I do now. Thank you for clarifying what I missed.

Do I see it? Of course I do. It's a no-brainer. Anyone who chooses to put their personal information online, or share information with someone they don't really know, is taking a big risk. That's not news to anyone, or at least it shouldn't be.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Blu is making a good point. But maybe it is a good wakeup call about being safe and all that jazz. Be careful what you put out there.

I shouldn't have sent HH all my dick pics. But he begged so much.

 

[heavyhitter01]

Blu is making a good point. But maybe it is a good wakeup call about being safe and all that jazz. Be careful what you put out there.

I shouldn't have sent HH all my dick pics. But he begged so much.

And they were so fucking hot! I now understand why every woman here wants to take a ride on your disco stick.

 

[bailadora]

No you didn't read carefully enough. Go back and read. Better yet, let me highlight for you.

Does anyone else realize the full ramifications of what HH has done? What he has proven can be done?

He has now proven that should someone feel that you have done something horrible, you better hope he/she doesn't find you here. You better hope he/she doesn't take it into his/her mind to come after you. And you better hope you aren't chatting with him/her right now.

Do you get it now? In your zeal to make The Librarian pay for her sins. You have made me feel less safe. Not because I am immoral or corrupt. Not because I am a horrible person. But because this is an erotica site. People come here to indulge in their fantasies. They rely on their anonymity to do so. And what you have proven is that should someone, anyone, feel slighted or morally outraged, that person can come here and deceive, stalk, and copy posts to use as weapons in RL.

So I ask again. Does anyone else feel the same way I do? Does anyone else see the far-reaching ramifications of what HH has done? HH do you even see it?

Not to bust your balls, but did you miss what *I* said? This is has already been covered.

 

[blulilacgrl]

Not to bust your balls, but did you miss what *I* said? This is has already been covered.

No I didn't. But what I find interesting is that after everything that has happened. After everyone pleaded with him to not do this, after you pointed this out, still he feels perfectly comfortable to sit and joke and laugh. And others apparently don't find what he did loathsome and appalling.

Also that he doesn't hold himself to the same moral high ground he expects of others. Shouldn't he be disgusted with the people who will disapprove of his behavior and yet still talk with him?

But mostly this wasn't about HH so much but more a reply to others.

Is it just me or did he break the cardinal rule of the Lit boards? We don't out each other.

 

[blulilacgrl]

Also this wasn't just stuff she 'put out there'. He admits to purposefully deceiving her in chats and pm's. So no this is not just stuff that she willingly put on a public forum. This was also stuff that he gained from private conversation. Which he then used to gain even more ammunition.

So while I agree we should all be careful what we put on the web, this runs just a little deeper.

Makes me want to warn everyone to take a good hard look at HH. This is what can happen to you if you piss someone off. If someone feels you haven't paid enough for your sins. If they feel you aren't repentant enough.

Oh dear. Should I be worried now?

 

[bailadora]

Why shouldn't he feel comfortable joking and laughing? In his mind, he's done nothing wrong.

I'm not sure at what point you started reading this thread, but there are *plenty* of people who called Heavy out re: his actions and his motivation. Plenty. Didn't matter. Again, he came here convinced of the rightness of his actions and when someone is THAT dedicated to their cause, there is usually little that anyone else can say that will convince them otherwise.

As for why some people continue to post and banter, I couldn't say. A few pages back, I said something along the lines of "Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and it annoys the pig." To which someone else replied "It's ok if your goal is to annoy the pig." That right there is the my best guess as to why this thread continues on. Some people are just perverse that way.

As for why I keep checking? I enjoy the zingers aimed his way.

 

[blulilacgrl]

This has always been what can happen to you. HH has just gone and made it real.

Be alert, not alarmed.

No offense. And I really am not being snarky to you. I do understand and agree with what you are saying. Just trying to also make this point.

According to HH, if you talk with him. I f you don't actively decry or condemn him. You agree with his actions and support him.

 

[heavyhitter01]

No I didn't. But what I find interesting is that after everything that has happened. After everyone pleaded with him to not do this, after you pointed this out, still he feels perfectly comfortable to sit and joke and laugh. And others apparently don't find what he did loathsome and appalling.

I'm sure you will get some great responses on these questions, but of course I am going to throw my two cents in. You can keep the change.

Perhaps they DO find what I did loathsome and appalling. I don't think there is any mistaking that fact if you read even one page of this thread.

But they might not find ME loathsome and appalling. Some do. But there are some here who don't.

Also that he doesn't hold himself to the same moral high ground he expects of others. Shouldn't he be disgusted with the people who will disapprove of his behavior and yet still talk with him?

Good point. I am sure there are those here who are having affairs. Some of them might be posting on this thread. Some of them might be sending me PMs, and I'm responding. I know this, they know this, and we are cool with each other.

Do I approve of those who are having affairs? Absolutely not. Do I wish they would stop what they are doing before people get hurt? Of course I do.

But I can still talk with them. I can still tease with them. Just because I think someone is doing a bad thing doesn't make that someone a bad person.

You seem to think that my zeal about ms_intrigue means I have the same zeal about going after everyone and anyone who ever fucked around on their partner. That's not true.

But consider this: I went after ms_intrigue because it was personal. Those who are fucking around have no worries from me, but should they worry about someone in their own lives wrecking havoc if their dalliances were discovered? Absolutely. That's just being prudent and realistic.

But mostly this wasn't about HH so much but more a reply to others.

Is it just me or did he break the cardinal rule of the Lit boards? We don't out each other.

I didn't out her here. Her posts are clear for everyone to see. By deleting her posts, she proved she was doing bad things...if she wasn't, there would be nothing to hide!

Did I tell people what was going on behind the scenes? Yes, I did. But that's not a surprise. Everyone here knows that everyone else is likely fucking around or at the very least doing things they shouldn't do.

But I didn't out her in the way that you are suggesting, which would include all her "real life" information. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe THAT is what the cardinal rule about outing is about.

 

[Lord Pmann]

I think there are two different discussions here. What Blu is trying to say is that this is above and beyond him simply finding out information from her online persona. He knowingly and willingly deceived her, specifically for the cause of outing her.

So, for instance, let's say I pissed some girl off because she wanted to totally fuck me, but I said no. Let's call her Blu. Well, she may get irate and go crazy. But if she goes crazy on me, I'm aware of it. But let's say a couple days later, some Australian girl with an amazing ass comes along and seems like she's God's gift to men, I should be skeptical. Because maybe she is really the crazy girl blu.

I think that is the point being made. That when you piss someone off, you really need to concern yourself with every future interaction.

 

[heavyhitter01]

Makes me want to warn everyone to take a good hard look at HH. This is what can happen to you if you piss someone off. If someone feels you haven't paid enough for your sins. If they feel you aren't repentant enough.

Oh dear. Should I be worried now?

You shouldn't be worried as long as you aren't pissing off the wrong people.

If you are concerned that something like this could happen to you, then you are probably doing something you shouldn't be doing. Because if you are innocent and have nothing to hide, then you should have no worries about "vigilantes" popping up in your life.

 

[Lord Pmann]

According to HH, if you talk with him. I f you don't actively decry or condemn him. You agree with his actions and support him.

I talk with him. But he knows I think he is a partial fuckwit and a massive shitsipper. And a cockwallet to boot.

 

[heavyhitter01]

I talk with him. But he knows I think he is a partial fuckwit and a massive shitsipper. And a cockwallet to boot.

Cockwallet? That's a new one. I was just getting accustomed to "shitsipper."