Should ObamaCare be extended to require carrying a handgun?

[coachdb18]

It's a well documented and data proven fact that conceal carry approvals bring with it lower crime rates. Since ObamaCare mandates are a means by which the government can force ALL citizens into behaviors that are self protective, doesn't it make sense that the same government should enforce the carrying of a working and loaded handgun by all citizens who qualify? Anyone failing to demonstrate adherence to such a mandate should be subject to a fine, enforced by the IRS tax system, as they are statistically increasing the chances of higher medical care due to their acceptance of crime, and of the personal injury or death. Being unacceptable alternatives to the possibilities engendered by simply complying with a government mandate to self-protect ones self, this seems a logical and prudent extension of the ObamaCare initiative.

 

[phrodeau]

People should be allowed to marry their handguns.

 

[Mike_Yates]

The DoJ says that anyone who has a concealed weapons license and carries a weapon is a terrorist.

 

[phrodeau]

We must criminalize any and all handgun abortions. Every bullet is sacred.

 

[coachdb18]

The DoJ says that anyone who has a concealed weapons license and carries a weapon is a terrorist.

Yea, Eric Holder doesn't bother with a CCW, he just leaves the dead bodies behind next to the serially numbered weapons he used to kill Border Agents, then denies any inquiry into how he did it. Sure am glad the ones of us that bother to get permits to protect ourselves are now being considered 'terrorists'....

 

[sufisaint]

Gun ownership was mandatory in Virginia at one time if you met qualifications.

 

[Mike_Yates]

Yea, Eric Holder doesn't bother with a CCW, he just leaves the dead bodies behind next to the serially numbered weapons he used to kill Border Agents, then denies any inquiry into how he did it. Sure am glad the ones of us that bother to get permits to protect ourselves are now being considered 'terrorists'....

The Obama administration's anti-2nd amendment laws and policies mostly targets law-abiding citizens and not career criminals and violent gang members who are most likely to commit gun crimes.

 

[semen4her]

I agree.

Mandatory concealed weapons do help lower violent crimes.

Just look at the crime in China and Canada.

 

[semen4her]

The Obama administration's anti-2nd amendment laws and policies mostly targets law-abiding citizens and not career criminals and violent gang members who are most likely to commit gun crimes.

Enough of you, ya fucking retard.

I hope to read about your arrest some day.

 

[coachdb18]

Enough of you, ya fucking retard.

I hope to read about your arrest some day.

It's always good to read the remarks of the all-accepting, big-tent liberals... inspirational!

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

I agree.

Mandatory concealed weapons do help lower violent crimes.

Just look at the crime in China and Canada.

And do not forget the wonders gun control has done for the drug cartels in Mexico.

 

[coachdb18]

And do not forget the wonders gun control has done for the drug cartels in Mexico.

Yep, ATF who is supposed to enforce over 2000 gun control laws ends up forcing gun shops, against their will and under threat, to supply ATF agents thousands of guns to 'walk' them directly to cartel drug gangs, which are then serially traceable back to ATF and DOJ, who then defies inquiries, defies contempt of Congress, and openly obstructs justice. Incredible tale of treason and treachery.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Gun ownership was mandatory in Virginia at one time if you met qualifications.

What time? And what were the qualifications? And did any nonwhites meet them?

 

[Mike_Yates]

Yep, ATF who is supposed to enforce over 2000 gun control laws ends up forcing gun shops, against their will and under threat, to supply ATF agents thousands of guns to 'walk' them directly to cartel drug gangs, which are then serially traceable back to ATF and DOJ, who then defies inquiries, defies contempt of Congress, and openly obstructs justice. Incredible tale of treason and treachery.

The US government deliberately supplies the Mexican drug gangs with tens of thousands of military weapons and rifles so they can use the gang violence in that country (which they themselves instigated) as a scapegoat to smear the 2nd amendment and pass draconian gun control legislation.

In case you haven't noticed, the United States of America is quickly disintegrating into an oppressive militarized police state. It's difficult for despots to close down an open society if it's citizens are well-armed and willing to use those arms in defense of their freedom and way of life.

The CIA also works hand-in-hand with the drug cartels and the international narcotics trade to bring in hundreds of billions of dollars to fund the black budget as well as a myriad of covert operations.

Cartel bosses whom have been apprehended have confessed to having worked directly with the US government and intelligence community.

This is a huge, sprawling conspiracy.

 

[semen4her]

What time? And what were the qualifications? And did any nonwhites meet them?

Non whites didn't matter.

To most of the right, its the same today.

 

[coachdb18]

Non whites didn't matter.

To most of the right, its the same today.

Just taking that statement to task, as it's the Democrats who want to force blacks to stay on the liberal plantation. Pertinent facts include the fact the KKK was originally created for and by Democrats. It was the Democrats who wiretapped and embattled MLK, jr, and fought the civil right movement at every turn. It was FDR who hired and utilized the services of Josephus Daniels, who was the original fometor of the Wilmington NC race riots, in which the sitting black Republican government was lynched, shot or run off for over 125 years, only losing their grip in the 2008 election. It was the Democrats who gave us 'the projects' under LBJ, essentially turning blacks into zoo animals, and giving the crime statistics their festering environment. It is still the Democrats who make excuses for blacks, because they inately feel blacks are inferior and need their help. What a condescending Massa attitude!

No, Democrats are no friend to the black community, something MLK Jr recognized by himself being a Republican.

 

[semen4her]

I read the first sentence then realized you're idiot and stopped there.

Carry on, dipshit.

 

[coachdb18]

I read the first sentence then realized you're idiot and stopped there.

Carry on, dipshit.

Figures....

http://www.wolaver.org/animals/ostrich.jpg

 

[cjh]

it's deja vu all over again cubed.

 

[Wrong Element]

It's a well documented and data proven fact that conceal carry approvals bring with it lower crime rates.

Care to cite some evidence for your "proven fact?"

You guys have been telling us for years that events like Aurora simply couldn't happen in a concealed carry state. A state like...er...Colorado.

 

[koalabear]

Care to cite some evidence for your "proven fact?"

You guys have been telling us for years that events like Aurora simply couldn't happen in a concealed carry state. A state like...er...Colorado.

Colorado is famous for their mass murders.

 

[coachdb18]

Care to cite some evidence for your "proven fact?"

You guys have been telling us for years that events like Aurora simply couldn't happen in a concealed carry state. A state like...er...Colorado.

Fact is, your existing gun control laws worked perfectly, since of 200+ people in the theater, the only one with a firearm was the gunman. The theater prohibited firearms. Should be some interesting legal challenges ahead, since denying a firearm also incurs liability on the part of the business preventing the right to self defense!

And to state without being challenged that conceal carry proponents have advocated that mass murder 'can't happen' because there's a provision for defending yourself is beneath a worthy comment to the contrary....

 

[about_average]

The theater prohibited firearms. Should be some interesting legal challenges ahead, since denying a firearm also incurs liability on the part of the business preventing the right to self defense!

Likely to not go anywhere unless someone in the theater actually had a carry permit as of last Friday.
I haven't heard if anyone there did.

 

[jeninflorida]

Well, I agree that Obama can force us to do things with this new Obama care. If we don't do this - here is your tax. If you do that - here is your tax.

 

[coachdb18]

Likely to not go anywhere unless someone in the theater actually had a carry permit as of last Friday.
I haven't heard if anyone there did.

Most people who are conceal carry qualified avoid places where they are restricted from defending themselves, as it is simply part of the personal requirement we self impose to be more sitationally aware than that. I predict that nationally, the crime that takes place in theater parking lots will tick upward, as the clients of movie theaters are now easily identifiable unarmed victims in waiting. A dark parking lot in the late hours of the night or early morning as shows let out, in the unequal contest of armed bad guys against an unarmed and situationally naive public will make for interesting crime statistics.