Watch for libs to suddenly advocate new power plants

[mercury14]

Yeah but Phro, Obama won't allow pipes to be laid.

Think of the disaster of a steam pipe breaking and killing a colony of Amoebas

Hey moron, Obama expedited the southern part of the Keystone pipeline. Dontcha' think that's a funny thing to do if his plan is to block the project?

 

[garbage can]

Hey moron, Obama expedited the southern part of the Keystone pipeline. Dontcha' think that's a funny thing to do if his plan is to block the project?

*laughing* I heard a liberal announcer the other day say that Obama had just fast tracked Keystone pipeline.....It's amazing what liberals want to believe.

 

[bra_man69]

Hey moron, Obama expedited the southern part of the Keystone pipeline. Dontcha' think that's a funny thing to do if his plan is to block the project?

He did how so moron?

 

[phrodeau]

He did how so moron?

www.google.com

 

[mercury14]

Maybe you two should read actual news instead of getting your "facts" from lying propaganda? Here's are center, left, and right-wing sources for you.

http://www.windsorstar.com/business/Obama+fast+track+revamped+Keystone+pipeline/6340705/story.html
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2012/0322/Obama-fast-tracks-part-of-Keystone-XL-pipeline-video
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/22/obama-keystone-xl-southern-segment_n_1371743.html

 

[RightField]

I read today that Obama has nothing to do with the southern part of the pipeline and the author was indignant that Obama was trying to imply that he could expedite it.

 

[bra_man69]

Maybe you two should read actual news instead of getting your "facts" from lying propaganda? Here's are center, left, and right-wing sources for you.

http://www.windsorstar.com/business/Obama+fast+track+revamped+Keystone+pipeline/6340705/story.html
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2012/0322/Obama-fast-tracks-part-of-Keystone-XL-pipeline-video
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/22/obama-keystone-xl-southern-segment_n_1371743.html

Lol maybe you need get your head out if your ass.
Looking at what you read I understand why you think way you do.
Obama has nothing to do with that pipeline one way are another. There's nothing he can do about it. It doesn't cross international border. I know 1st hand I own land east of Paris Texas where pipeline going.

 

[mercury14]

I read today that Obama has nothing to do with the southern part of the pipeline and the author was indignant that Obama was trying to imply that he could expedite it.

Approval or disapproval of the pipeline is handled by an executive cabinet-department process. You've shown a complete willingness to hold Obama accountable for anything that goes on in the executive branch in the past.

Why the change of heart?

 

[mercury14]

Lol maybe you need get your head out if your ass.
Looking at what you read I understand why you think way you do.
Obama has nothing to do with that pipeline one way are another. There's nothing he can do about it. It doesn't cross international border. I know 1st hand I own land east of Paris Texas where pipeline going.

You think Obama doesn't have any influence over his very own Dept. of Energy?

I agree that fast-tracking the southern bit doesn't mean much since it will be finished before the northern part no matter what. But if Obama wanted to block the project he could.

But instead Obama is saying he just wants to wait for the environmental impact assessment to be completed as originally planned. Maybe the pipe can go through Nebraska's Sand Hills or maybe it needs to go around. Republican in the House decided to come up with their own timeline though to play political games in order to stir up stupid people.

 

[RightField]

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/45519

Obama’s Oily Pipeline Lies
By Alan Caruba Monday, March 26, 2012

The President’s trip last week to Cushing, Oklahoma, was nothing more than the opportunity to stand in front of a stack of oil pipeline sections and lie some more about the Keystone pipeline. His contempt for the intelligences of Americans was on full display.

A pipeline section that did not require his approval or involvement was touted as “a priority.” His delay of the Keystone pipeline from Canada was passed off as based on his concern for “the health and safety of the American people.”

The safety of oil pipelines is well established. There is an extensive network; 55,000 miles of crude oil trunk lines in the U.S. and another estimated 40,000 miles of small gathering lines located mostly in Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, and Wyoming that gather oil from wells both online and offshore and connect to the larger trunk lines.

Obama thinks most Americans are so dumb that a photo and a short televised news report in front of pipeline sections will convince them he and his administration have been leading the effort to ensure domestic oil is available.

He is wrong. He is the stupid one.

By the end of the week, Rasmussen Reports released the results of a poll in which “Voters continue to believe the United States is not doing enough to develop its gas and oil resources, and strongly support offshore drilling. Most also still think going ahead with offshore drilling is likely to bring down the price of gasoline at the pump.” Of those polled, 62% favored offshore drilling.

The Governor of Oklahoma, Mary Fallin, when asked about Obama’s speech, said, “President Obama’s rhetoric is matched with a policy record that is aggressively anti-energy and continues to stifle economic growth in Oklahoma and throughout the nation.” Gov. Fallin said Obama should “reexamine his polices, not deliver more speeches taking credit for the accomplishments of others.”

That, however, is standard operating procedure for Obama. Either he blames anything and everything that goes wrong on someone or something else, or he takes credit where none is due. What is one to expect from a President he was given a Nobel Peace Prize within months of taking office in order to pump up a virtually invisible resume? No doubt the Nobel committee will be giving out free pizzas to all who attend future ceremonies.

In January, when Obama announced the delay of permits to the Keystone XL pipeline from Canada—a major trading partner and ally—Tom Pyle, the president of the Institute on Energy Research, called the decision “unconscionable.”

“With more than 1.7 trillion barrels of recoverable oil under our soil,” said Pyle, “we have enough oil to fuel our present needs for the next 250 years.” The addition of the Canadian oil will further ensure future energy requirements will be met.

It isn’t just the President who lies. Members of his administration do so all the time. During a White House press conference in March Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said that oil and gas production had increased on federal lands.

It has declined and increases in oil production have come primarily from privately owned land. On federally controlled lands, oil production since 2010 has dropped by eleven percent and gas by six percent. Revenue from lease sales for exploration and extraction is 250 times less than during the last year of the Bush administration.

This is an administration that re-authorized a moratorium on offshore drilling and imposed an embargo on oilshale development while at the same time wasting billions on so-called green energy “investments.” The Secretary of Energy, Steven Chu, gave himself an “A” for the job he’s done thus far even as the cost of gasoline at the pump climbs toward $4 and higher.

Secretary Chu’s own department’s Energy Information Administration recently reported that the oil industry paid some $35.7 billion in corporate income taxes in 2009, the latest year for which data are available. According to The Wall Street Journal that is about 10% of non-defense discretionary spending. “All told, the government rakes in $86 million from oil and gas every day—far more than any other business.”

Voters would, indeed, have to be as stupid as Obama thinks they are if they reelect him in November.

 

[mercury14]

Nice source RF.

"Canada Free Press"
Espousing Conservative viewpoints, cornerstone of which contain love of God, love of family, love of country, CFP maintains a loyal and growing readership.

 

[bra_man69]

You think Obama doesn't have any influence over his very own Dept. of Energy?

The department of energy can't do a fucking thing about. I know you can't believe the federal government has no control of it but the don't. The only government department that can stop it is at state level and in Texas it's the rail road commission and whatever Oklahoma calls who over see there pipelines.
It's not a international pipeline so as much you want believe Obama's shit it's not true.

 

[RightField]

Nice source RF.

"Canada Free Press"
Espousing Conservative viewpoints, cornerstone of which contain love of God, love of family, love of country, CFP maintains a loyal and growing readership.

Does Obama have any authority over the pipeline or not? Can you find a reference that shows he does? Granted it's not a great source, but it does establish a position. Do you have a counterpoint? I'm all ears.

If he does have authority and does do something to accelerate, then I'll cheer his effort and will give him credit. If he doesn't, then it will be another confirmation that he's an oily opportunistic deceitful democrat.

 

[mercury14]

Does Obama have any authority over the pipeline or not? Can you find a reference that shoes he does? Granted it's not a great source, but it does establish a position. Do you have a counterpoint?

The Dept of Energy has purview over oil pipelines.

Here's something from the Bolsheviks over at the Christian Science Monitor:

"But building just the southern leg of the Keystone XL pipeline would still mean transporting a lot of heavy crude from Alberta's tar sands that reaches it via existing pipelines – a key point made in a 2010 study by the US Department of Energy. It found that Canadian tar-sands oil would still reach the US unimpeded – through smaller pipelines and rail – whether the Keystone XL pipeline is built or not."

 

[mercury14]

If he does have authority and does do something to accelerate, then I'll cheer his effort and will give him credit. If he doesn't, then it will be another confirmation that he's an oily opportunistic deceitful democrat.

The president doesn't sit around micro-managing pipes in Oklahoma, that's the Dept of Energy's purview. But if Obama's agenda was to block it he could. And if his agenda is to prioritize it over other projects he can have the DoE do that too.

 

[RightField]

The Dept of Energy has purview over oil pipelines.

Here's something from the Bolsheviks over at the Christian Science Monitor:

Proof? References?

 

[phrodeau]

A little something for the RWCJ:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPZb8HoQgH8

 

[mercury14]

Proof? References?

Very first sentence:

President Barack Obama ordered U.S. government agencies on Wednesday to fast track approval of the southern leg of the Keystone XL pipeline, boosting TransCanada Corp.'s plans for speedy construction of the $2.3-billion project.

....

According to the White House, Obama will issue an executive order, first announced in his State of the Union address, "to make faster permitting and review decisions for vital infrastructure projects" in the U.S.

The executive order will direct U.S. agencies by the end of April to identify "regionally and nationally significant infrastructure projects" - including pipelines - for better tracking and review. A separate steering committee will be set up to develop, by the end of May, clear timelines for speeding up approval.

A "specific memorandum" will be issued designating the pipeline as the "top priority" because of the need to relieve a glut of oil at the Cushing hub, the White House said.

"The president has been very clear . . . about his sup-port for the building of the pipeline, the so-called Cushing pipeline," said White House spokesman Jay Carney, "because of the glut of oil in Cushing and the need to move that product to the Gulf for refining."

Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/techno...one+pipeline/6340705/story.html#ixzz1qT3orM9Q



http://www.windsorstar.com/business/Obama+fast+track+revamped+Keystone+pipeline/6340705/story.html

 

[bra_man69]

Take the liberal dick out of your mouth.
A year and half ago I singed off on right away for the pipeline.
I know just little more then you do about this.
And for all you Republicans thinking we are going to have cheaper gas well guess what sorry but we are not. Sssshhh liberals don't tell them.
This pipeline is going to let west Texas oil sell on the brent world market
There is not one law that says oil can't be exported that's drilled here. Hello China.
Just like the refineries are doing with gas right now exporting. They well be doing it with oil.
Hope you like 4 dollar gas soon to be 7 are 8.
Everyone of you going to say bullshit what I just said but you better think real hard and look at the facts. The rich well get richer on the back's of middle class again with this

 

[mercury14]

Take the liberal dick out of your mouth.
A year and half ago I singed off on right away for the pipeline.
I know just little more then you do about this.
And for all you Republicans thinking we are going to have cheaper gas well guess what sorry but we are not. Sssshhh liberals don't tell them.
This pipeline is going to let west Texas oil sell on the brent world market
There is not one law that says oil can't be exported that's drilled here. Hello China.
Just like the refineries are doing with gas right now exporting. They well be doing it with oil.
Hope you like 4 dollar gas soon to be 7 are 8.
Everyone of you going to say bullshit what I just said but you better think real hard and look at the facts. The rich well get richer on the back's of middle class again with this

Who is suggesting that the oil can't be exported?

And your grammar is so poor that I can't read your second sentence.

 

[bra_man69]

Who is suggesting that the oil can't be exported?

And your grammar is so poor that I can't read your second sentence.

I pad is hard to type on.
I had to ok the pipeline go across my land total of 8 acres lost to it.
A lot of the talking heads on t.v and radio don't understand that this pipeline let's oil be exported.

 

[mercury14]

I pad is hard to type on.
I had to ok the pipeline go across my land total of 8 acres lost to it.
A lot of the talking heads on t.v and radio don't understand that this pipeline let's oil be exported.

I've talked about this before, the myth of "if we drill more in the US we'll be more energy independent". It's just not very true at all. I think RF disagrees (though he won't say how).

 

[bra_man69]

I've talked about this before, the myth of "if we drill more in the US we'll be more energy independent". It's just not very true at all. I think RF disagrees (though he won't say how).

We can become energy independent.
We can use cng to run car's and trucks.
Obama could of used some of stimulus money on that but he didn't
There a place Oklahoma for 1800 dollars make a car be able run on both cng and gas.
Nuclear power plants new technology we have there a lot safer.

But if we do middle east well be bankrupt.
Remember the guy who is head of Saudi Arabia oil told the imf if oil goes lower then 70 they need help.

 

[mercury14]

We can become energy independent.
We can use cng to run car's and trucks.
Obama could of used some of stimulus money on that but he didn't
There a place Oklahoma for 1800 dollars make a car be able run on both cng and gas.
Nuclear power plants new technology we have there a lot safer.

But if we do middle east well be bankrupt.
Remember the guy who is head of Saudi Arabia oil told the imf if oil goes lower then 70 they need help.

cng cars and trucks won't make us energy independent.

 

[bra_man69]

cng cars and trucks won't make us energy independent.

We put a fucking man on the moon we can become energy independent.
It's people like you always says we can't.