Have the underage guidelines been tightened?

It would have been comforting to hear from her what's causing those preposting views and whether it signifies anything. We're sort of speculating on that too in response to frequent questions on the forum about them.

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Hi writers!

For clarification and future reference: we do allow characters under the age of 18 in stories. What we don't allow are stories in which characters under the age of 18 are involved in sexual situations. This includes as voyeurs, as the object of a voyeur, masturbation, having sexual thoughts, and so on....

...If you have any questions, feel free to PM me anytime. PMs are faster than emails.

Thanks everybody, especially those who let me know about this thread - and have a great weekend!


Thank you :kiss: for your post. Certainly the clearest and most informative post I’ve seen in my years here. A few more like this excellent one could clear up all sorts of questions that seem to come up again and again. Ace mentioned a couple of these questions and I could easily add 3 or 4 more.

BTW -Do you really check every story yourself? Is there no way you could get some help? I’m sure you could find many LITEROTICANS who’d be willing to help.

And you have a good weekend too!
 
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Visitors, Yahoo! Slurp Spiders (22), MSNBot Spiders (140), Google Spiders (23), Google AdSense Spiders (8)

This is normal for almost everyday of the week.

True, but those URLs shouldn't be accessible to any legitimate spider. They're not linked from anywhere.

Only spiders that are using incremental ID# scraping should be able to even find those URLs.
 
Hi writers! :rose:

For clarification and future reference: we do allow characters under the age of 18 in stories. What we don't allow are stories in which characters under the age of 18 are involved in sexual situations. This includes as voyeurs, as the object of a voyeur, masturbation, having sexual thoughts, and so on.

We do allow references to past activity in stories so long as it is not explicit. For example, an adult character referencing his or her history - "I lost my virginity when I was 15" - is fine. Explicit and/or salacious details are not.

These are not new rules nor have our content rules changed in many years.

As far as things slipping through: one thing to realize is that the stories are not approved by a robot or script. They are approved by human eyes, which tire easily as I age. :D Every story must be formatted; tags, title, and description checked; and skimmed for content issues. The daily update takes hours. If I could find a way to do all this properly with a script, I would. But in the last 12+ years, the only way to do things right is to do it by hand, so to speak.

Mistakes happen. The site has been on a huge growth streak in the past year, with readership & unique visitors up nearly 20%. This means a corresponding growth in submissions. We want to post stories to the site as quickly as possible for you authors. We also want to make sure that the updates are as top-quality as they can be - with a minimum of formatting errors and no forbidden content inadvertently posted. Thorough checking of stories and timely posting is a balance we will continue to work to get right.

I'd like to be able to read every story through, but I can't. Reading 100+ stories/novels a night - much less formatting, tagging, etc. - is just not possible. So, if while skimming I see something that sends up a red flag and further reading doesn't clarify things, I often send it back to the author. If I stopped and read through each novel we receive to check on whether an underage character is sexually active at any point, I would be even further behind than I already am. :)

When a story is sent back to you for any reason, this is not a final rejection and it is not meant to be taken personally. This just means we have issues or questions. You are free to resubmit either with corrections - or, if you think we're wrong, an explanation of why we're wrong in the NOTES field.

If you believe your story was rejected in error, please open the submission, respond to the rejection in the NOTES field of the submission, and hit SUBMIT. Please do not add the word EDITED to the title, as that denotes someone editing an already approved story. Since we process all edits after the new stories are posted, adding the word EDITED to a title will cause a delay in the posting of your new story. If you are submitting an edit of a rejected story, simply open the rejected form, make the changes in that form, and hit SUBMIT. Do not start a new submission.

If you have any questions, feel free to PM me anytime. PMs are faster than emails.

Thanks everybody, especially those who let me know about this thread - and have a great weekend! :rose:

Thank YOU for all the hard work!
 
My "seemingly underage if you didn't read it closely" story just posted on the Lit. story file without question/rejection.
 
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Hi writers!

As far as things slipping through: one thing to realize is that the stories are not approved by a robot or script.


You know over the years I’ve repeatedly been told that almost all first rejections were done by some ‘bot’.

Mr cut-and-paste, ace, the dumb one, miss stella, even lovergirl all repeatedly spread this misinformation. Every time an author would post a question on the rejection process (usually asking why their story was rejected), one of these so called experts would pontificate on how these ‘bots’ were probably responsible.

Which we now know was a pile of crap. It now appears that these brown-nosers had their heads so far up the palace's rear end that they didn’t know what they were talking about. Which of course doesn’t surprise me. One has to wonder on how many other questions have they been out to lunch on. How much incorrect info they’ve spread over the years.

It’s why I’ve always asked L&M to give us clear answers The two of them could make this site much more enjoyable for all authors if they simply took the few minutes required and post clear statements like the QUEEN’S latest. Hopefully this is the start of a new approach on the palace’s part – if it is it certainly will be appreciated.
 
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Hi writers!

As far as things slipping through: one thing to realize is that the stories are not approved by a robot or script.


You know over the years I’ve repeatedly been told that almost all first rejections were done by some ‘bot’.

Mr cut-and-paste, ace, the dumb one, miss stella, even lovergirl all repeatedly spread this misinformation. Every time an author would post a question on the rejection process (usually asking why their story was rejected), one of these so called experts would pontificate on how these ‘bots’ were probably responsible.

Which we now know was a pile of crap. It now appears that these brown-nosers had their heads so far up the palace's rear end that they didn’t know what they were talking about. Which of course doesn’t surprise me. One has to wonder on how many other questions have they been out to lunch on. How much incorrect info they’ve spread over the years.

It’s why I’ve always asked L&M to give us clear answers The two of them could make this site much more enjoyable for all authors if they simply took the few minutes required and post clear statements like the QUEEN’S latest. Hopefully this is the start of a new approach on the palace’s part – if it is it certainly will be appreciated.

Oh yeah, I'm a brown noser toadie, that's why I just had two stories kicked off for containing under age and graphic violence.

There are certainly some brownies in this thread, but I'm not one of them.

In my defense, I've only repeated what the defenders of the faith have been spouting since long before I got here.

Funny that the person whose ass they continually kiss, just made them look stupid.
 
In my defense, I've only repeated what the defenders of the faith have been spouting since long before I got here.

Me too. But that, of course, is because the website wasn't (isn't) answering the questions itself. (Still hasn't said what the mounting views while pending is all about--leaving regulars on the forum trying to help answer the question that continues to come up daily.)

I guess the team of Souries and Lovecraft thinks we just shouldn't try to help as best we can people asking those questions(?)
 
Me too. But that, of course, is because the website wasn't (isn't) answering the questions itself. (Still hasn't said what the mounting views while pending is all about--leaving regulars on the forum trying to help answer the question that continues to come up daily.)

I guess the team of Souries and Lovecraft thinks we just shouldn't try to help as best we can people asking those questions(?)

No, scouries is just trying to find a way to discredit the ones who keep telling the truth about him and his cheating, lying ways.
 
No, scouries is just trying to find a way to discredit the ones who keep telling the truth about him and his cheating, lying ways.

Still, the point is that we continue to try to help folks with their questions. And, sure, in many cases we have to rely on the answers given by those before us--because the website isn't providing them. Which leads to the question of whether we should just stop trying to help folks with questions here that the website hasn't provided clear answers to.
 
Still, the point is that we continue to try to help folks with their questions. And, sure, in many cases we have to rely on the answers given by those before us--because the website isn't providing them. Which leads to the question of whether we should just stop trying to help folks with questions here that the website hasn't provided clear answers to.

We'll do the best we can with what we've got as always.
 
Me too. But that, of course, is because the website wasn't (isn't) answering the questions itself. (Still hasn't said what the mounting views while pending is all about--leaving regulars on the forum trying to help answer the question that continues to come up daily.)

I guess the team of Souries and Lovecraft thinks we just shouldn't try to help as best we can people asking those questions(?)

You know you just brought up something that has been bugging me.

I assumed-as I am sure many here did-that the views might be the bot itself drifting through the stories creating the views, but now that obviously is not the case.

That brings me to something an author I have not seen around here is awhile, Zeb Carter, suggested and that the views are story lifting bots from other sites.

I don't know if that is possible, but if it is that means theoretically your story could show up on a site other than lit before it posts to lit and if they use another name it would look like lit stole it.

And I, like you, have tried to answer questions based on the info I have which has been falsely passed down from before you.

I only differ from you in that I have no "blind faith" in the site and think that they do as they feel and really don't give a rats ass about answering the questions old timers and newbies have.
 
You know you just brought up something that has been bugging me.

I assumed-as I am sure many here did-that the views might be the bot itself drifting through the stories creating the views, but now that obviously is not the case.

That brings me to something an author I have not seen around here is awhile, Zeb Carter, suggested and that the views are story lifting bots from other sites.

I don't know if that is possible, but if it is that means theoretically your story could show up on a site other than lit before it posts to lit and if they use another name it would look like lit stole it.

And I, like you, have tried to answer questions based on the info I have which has been falsely passed down from before you.

I only differ from you in that I have no "blind faith" in the site and think that they do as they feel and really don't give a rats ass about answering the questions old timers and newbies have.

Read post #53 on bots.

Sometimes answering questions just makes for more questions and then there are questions that shouldn't be answered. It is their site and they do, do as they please.
 
Still, the point is that we continue to try to help folks with their questions. And, sure, in many cases we have to rely on the answers given by those before us--because the website isn't providing them. Which leads to the question of whether we should just stop trying to help folks with questions here that the website hasn't provided clear answers to.
You know you just brought up something that has been bugging me.

I assumed-as I am sure many here did-that the views might be the bot itself drifting through the stories creating the views, but now that obviously is not the case.

That brings me to something an author I have not seen around here is awhile, Zeb Carter, suggested and that the views are story lifting bots from other sites.

I don't know if that is possible, but if it is that means theoretically your story could show up on a site other than lit before it posts to lit and if they use another name it would look like lit stole it.

And I, like you, have tried to answer questions based on the info I have which has been falsely passed down from before you.

I only differ from you in that I have no "blind faith" in the site and think that they do as they feel and really don't give a rats ass about answering the questions old timers and newbies have.


My wife and I have asked Laurel numerous questions over the years and she has always responded promptly, intelligently and pleasantly. Both of us also always enjoyed the wit of her responses.

If you're not getting answers I guess it must be because she doesn't like know-it-all assholes! :D

P.S. want me to ask her for ya??? :D :D :D
 
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You really should read posts before you do your bitchy freak response to them, safe-bet Usurper. Oh, that's right. You can't read; you're dead.

This isn't about PMs to Laurel.

Haven't seen you help anyone on Lit. In fact, all you do is freaky bitch.

(And bullshit on you ever PMing Laurel. You're not a writer. You don't have any writing on Literotica--so you've never had anything to ask about.)
 
Read post #53 on bots.

Sometimes answering questions just makes for more questions and then there are questions that shouldn't be answered. It is their site and they do, do as they please.

I thought post #53 was a real headscratcher. I didn't find an answer in that on why the view numbers mount in pending.

I'll just stop trying to answer the questions and let safe-bet do the responding. She's such a sweetheart. :eek:
 
Read post #53 on bots.

Sometimes answering questions just makes for more questions and then there are questions that shouldn't be answered. It is their site and they do, do as they please.

Which is as shitty of a business attitude as one can possibly have.

The consensus around here that they owe the authors nothing is false.

Do they owe me, or you or Pilot anything individually? No.

But do they owe the authors en mass? Yes they do.

Although the forums are popular, the main draw to this site by far is still the stories and the authors provide the stories.

The reason the site was more likely more responsive back in the day was not just that they were smaller, but that the site needed to draw people to it.

Now years later they are at the top and no longer give a fuck. They have tens of thousands of archived stories and if anyone no matter who they are want to pull their shit, they just don't care.

Because a reader could read here forever and never read everything and there are always new authors joining to keep the new story file full.

In the meantime the authors that made the site popular can go to hell. They don't answer Pm's on a regular basis no matter what that lying skank Safe Bet says, and they seem to think its hilarious to not post any clear rules.

It is what it is and at some point it will catch up to them, just as it catches up to every business who thinks their the shit.

But as a conspiracy theory I think they follow the threads and love to watch people argue. The "rape" rule has been argued over many times, they will never clarify it and underage itself is still an inconsistent joke.

The "views" glitch has been being talked about for months and there has never been the courtesy of an answer.

End of the day you are right, that they will do what they will do, but on the other end of the spectrum that means there is certainly no cause to brown nose them as some here do
 
Here's a suggestion I made some 4 years ago. I've also reposted it on an annual basis. And now that we know that there are

NO BOTS REJECTING STORIES

(the reason the lackeys always used to deflect this suggestion) perhaps the QUEEN (and not the brown nosers) could address it.


SCOURIES SUGGESTION #4 – Why not give a detailed reason when you Reject a Story

I’ve had about 13 out of the 58 or so stories I’ve submitted to Literotica rejected. Some have been rejected up to five times! I’m always surprised when one is rejected. I think I understand Literotica’s rules and while I may not agree with them I do try to write my stories to conform to them. When a story of mine is rejected I rush to try and find the problem and correct it. My stories have been rejected for the following reasons:

*Poor Grammar
*Underage Characters
*Snuff Scene
*Wrong Category
*Bestiality

But when one of the censors rejects a story they don’t provide very specific details – instead there is a line that asks something like ‘is there an underage character in this story?’ or ‘is this in the right category?’ or ‘does this story include bestiality?’ Shit, if you’ve read the story and decided it needs rejection why not be a little more specific?

Strangely at least nine of the thirteen stories I’ve had rejected were subsequently accepted without me making any changes at all! I just resubmit them with a note like ‘I looked for the underage character and don’t believe there are any of them in this story– I’d be happy to change something if you have some specific problem – please advise’. One of two things happens; one, usually the story is accepted without comment, or two, it’s rejected again but with again no highlighting of the exact problem.

I believe it would save me time and worry, as well as save your censors time, if they were quite specific when they reject a story. Something like, ‘Sally is only 16 years old when she has sex with Arthur in the middle of page two in your story – this is unacceptable and must be changed,’ or ‘it is not okay for Sally to have vaginal/penile intercourse with the dolphin in the second paragraph’.

I’ll then be able to immediately address the problem instead of slogging through ten thousand words trying to figure out what I’ve done wrong.

So please, for all of our sakes, talk to your censors and get them to be a bit more specific in future.
 
Which is as shitty of a business attitude as one can possibly have.

The consensus around here that they owe the authors nothing is false.

Do they owe me, or you or Pilot anything individually? No.

But do they owe the authors en mass? Yes they do.

Although the forums are popular, the main draw to this site by far is still the stories and the authors provide the stories.

The reason the site was more likely more responsive back in the day was not just that they were smaller, but that the site needed to draw people to it.

Now years later they are at the top and no longer give a fuck. They have tens of thousands of archived stories and if anyone no matter who they are want to pull their shit, they just don't care.

Because a reader could read here forever and never read everything and there are always new authors joining to keep the new story file full.

In the meantime the authors that made the site popular can go to hell. They don't answer Pm's on a regular basis no matter what that lying skank Safe Bet says, and they seem to think its hilarious to not post any clear rules.

It is what it is and at some point it will catch up to them, just as it catches up to every business who thinks their the shit.

But as a conspiracy theory I think they follow the threads and love to watch people argue. The "rape" rule has been argued over many times, they will never clarify it and underage itself is still an inconsistent joke.

The "views" glitch has been being talked about for months and there has never been the courtesy of an answer.

End of the day you are right, that they will do what they will do, but on the other end of the spectrum that means there is certainly no cause to brown nose them as some here do

This is where you don't have a clue as to what is going on around here and has been going on around here for twice as many years as I've been here.

This did not start out as a business. It started out as a reading/writing group of friends for the most part.

Everything else was added on as it went along.

There is also the free speech thing that Laurel is manic on.

Put that all together and you get a picture. If it ain't what you want it to be, so sorry, good luck and try again tomorrow.

Some folks today called what there was back then a clique. Nope, it was a group of friends. Good caring, supportive, smart, wise and wiseass friends. Half the people in the AH today wouldn't have stood a chance back then. Stupid and ignorant people were not put up with.

So take your business picture, wade it up and toss it away because it don't fit here.

I wouldn't be the least surprised if Laurel reached out one day and pulled the plug and in some cases, I would not blame her in the least.

So enjoy what you have while you have it and please, quit the bitching. Everyone.
 
Scouries, let me explain this to you in terms you might understand.

SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU ASININE ASSHOLE.
 
Yes ace I share your frustration with seeing the same questions raised time and time again in these forums. The PALACE’S unwillingness to clarify some of these simple questions also perplexes me.

I also understand loverboy’s frustration even though by and large she’s an idiot and a convicted cheater.

However simply parroting old posts as definitive answers to these questions without any kind of verification is certainly not the solution. Unfortunately it just lumps you in with the lackeys and toadies you quote and makes you look bad.

Unfortunately ace your style of in-your-face, I’m-never-wrong posting demands that you do know what you’re talking about…

I’m sure you don’t want to join the AHers who’ve won this award:


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42924000/jpg/_42924117_noseaward203.jpg
LITEROTICA’S annual dumb texan brown noser award…
 
Gotta love how the troll always has to include me, even when there's ample evidence of the exact opposite all over the forum :p
 
Yes scouries, you are such a favorite of Laurel that she laughs every time you post your silly nonsense. In one breath you state that you get royalties for your views from this site and in the next you say no one will answer your PM's and questions. So which is it?

It's a very easy question to answer, you are a lying idiot with an axe to grind. So why don't you do us all a favor and crawl back to your fake lists and fake contest threads. That's what you do best, being a joke is what you are and what you are good at.

Let the grown up talk about the important stuff. You go play with your toys and make believe world.
 
Is it unfair?

hi there,
my story just got rejected because of underage sexual activity.
what i don't understand is why it matters, after all its just a story correct? i realize some people post stories here and make it sound like it is their own personal experience. but mainly its fiction and fantasy. why should it matter whether you post a story with that kind of taboo inside it when this whole site is comfortable with taboo any way? people do fantasize about underage sex and illegal or not its always going to be there. the only thing that makes it taboo is the law that is made by people who think its wrong. Now im not here saying that i think young YOUNG people having sex should be made legal or exploited. i just think that when it comes to stories and fiction, it shouldn't matter. Its just a story.

...and like it or not. these things actually happen in the world, trying to hide it is not going to make it go away. you don't ban graphic rape and murder scenes of children in tv and books because its real, it happens, however sad it is.
 
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