Mitt Romney is a Socialist ComMormon!

[KingOrfeo]

Does America really know anything about this man's LDS Church and its history?!

Law of Consecration:

In the Latter Day Saint movement (also known as Mormonism), the term law of consecration was first used in 1831 by Joseph Smith and was a doctrine of covenanted Christian communalism.

The Law of Consecration, as practiced by the Latter Day Saints, was for the support of the poor (Doctrine and Covenants 42:30). Latter Day Saints were asked to voluntarily deed (consecrate) their property to the Church of Christ, and the church then would assign to each member a "stewardship" of property "as much as is sufficient for himself and family" for his "needs, wants, family, and circumstances."[1][2] If consecrated property became more than was sufficient for the assigned steward, the "residue" was "to be consecrated unto the bishop" kept for the benefit of "those who have not, from time to time, that every man who has need may be amply supplied and receive according to his wants."[3]

Origins

On February 4, 1831, Smith claimed to receive a revelation calling Edward Partridge to be the first bishop of the church.[4] Five days later, on February 9. 1831, Smith claimed to receive another revelation detailing the Law of Consecration.[5]

It's good to be the Prophet . . .

United Order:

In the Latter Day Saint movement, the United Order (also called the United Order of Enoch) was one of several 19th century church collectivist programs. Early versions of the Order beginning in 1831 attempted to implement the Law of Consecration, a form of Christian communism, modeled after the New Testament church which had "all things in common". These early versions ended after a few years. Later versions within Mormonism, primarily in the Utah Territory, implemented less-ambitious cooperative programs, many of which were very successful. The Order's full name invoked the city of Enoch, described in Latter Day Saint scripture as having such a virtuous and undefiled people that God had taken it to heaven.[1] The United Order established egalitarian communities designed to achieve income equality, eliminate poverty, and increase group self-sufficiency. The movement had much in common with other communalist utopian societies formed in the United States and Europe during the Second Great Awakening which sought to govern aspects of people's lives through precepts of faith and community organization. However, the Latter Day Saint United Order was more family and property oriented than the utopian experiments at Brook Farm and the Oneida Community.

Membership in the United Order was voluntary, although during a period in the 1830s it was a requirement of continued church membership. Participants would deed (consecrate) all their property to the United Order, which would in turn deed back an "inheritance" (or "stewardship") which allowed members to control the property; private property was not eradicated but was rather a fundamental principle of this system.[2] At the end of each year, any excess that the family produced from their stewardship was voluntarily given back to the Order. The Order in each community was operated by the local Bishop.

The United Order is not practiced within mainstream Mormonism today; however, a number of groups of Mormon fundamentalists, such as the Apostolic United Brethren, have revived the practice. The United Order was also practiced by a liberal Mormon sect called the United Order Family of Christ.

Yeah, right, they'll tell us that, but we know they haven't really changed. Everybody's gonna hold Islam responsible for Muhammad's child-brides?! Well, this stuff goes back only 180 years, yesterday by religion standards, so there!

LDS Church leaders stated that under the United Order, private property was not abolished. The sharing of goods, often cited as communalism, was voluntary. Members of the church who chose to participate in the United Order voluntarily deeded their properties to the church, which would then, give all or a portion of it back to the original property owner as a stewardship. The "residue", or property which was over and above what the owner and his family required for themselves, was used by the church to provide to the less fortunate, who would be required to pay it back either monetarily or by labor. The private property owner was not forced to participate in the Order nor was his property forcefully confiscated. Private property owners were free to join or leave the orders and were in control of their stewardship. J. Reuben Clark, First Counselor in the First Presidency explained:

"The fundamental principle of this system was the private ownership of property. Each man owned his portion, or inheritance, or stewardship, with an absolute title, which he could alienate, or hypothecate, or otherwise treat as his own. The church did not own all of the property, and the life under the United Order was not a communal life... The United Order is an individualistic system, not a communal system."[2]

Lorenzo Snow, 5th President of the church also highlighted the United Order's preservation of individual free will:

"In things that pertain to celestial glory there can be no forced operations. We must do according as the spirit of the Lord operates upon our understandings and feelings. We cannot be crowded into matters, however great might be the blessing attending such procedure. We cannot be forced into living a celestial law; we must do this ourselves, of our own free will. And whatever we do in regard to the principle of the United Order, we must do it because we desire to do it..."[16]

Voluntarism! Anarcho-Syndicalist tendencies!

Communism

This United Order was an attempt to eradicate poverty and promote a sense of unity and brotherhood within Latter-day Saint communities.[17] The LDS Church's view is that the doctrine and the various attempts at practicing it should not be seen as part of the 19th century utopian movement in the United States,[18] and is distinct from both communism and capitalism.[19]

LDS Church leaders in the 20th century sought to make a clear distinction between communism and the Law of Consecration, teaching that the two practices' differed as related to the topics of free agency, private property and deity.[20][21][22] The Law of Consecration and the United Order can be compared to Christian communism/communalism, presented in the New Testament as practiced by 1st century Christian saints.[3][4] LDS Church leaders have claimed that communism, communalism, and socialism are counterfeits of the Law of Consecration.[20][21] Nevertheless, communal unity and equality are central tenets of the Latter Day Saint doctrine of Zion as described in Moses 7:18, "And the Lord called his people Zion, because they were of one heart and one mind, and dwelt in righteousness; and there was no poor among them."

See?! They're not just Commies, they're Dogmatic Orthodox We're-The-Real-Thing Commies! They're TheoTrotskyites!

Why, even their capitalism has communitarian and dirigiste roots!

HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE A MORMON CAN LOVE AMERICA?!!!




Oh, thank you, "Bob," this is going to be such a wonderful, fun election year . . .

 

[VaticanAssassin]

stupid much?

 

[miles]

The Wacko Wiki King strikes again.

 

[unregistered]

 

[miles]

They are so tolerant on the left aren't they?

Phony hypocrites.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The Wacko Wiki King strikes again.

They are so tolerant on the left aren't they?

Phony hypocrites.

^^^^bitchiest "Marines" EVAR.

 

[mercury14]

They are so tolerant on the left aren't they?

http://www.gilad.co.uk/storage/intolerance.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1288384416866

 

[CHNOPS]

Between VA, Miles and Vetteman, I'm surprised there's any stupid left for the rest of the bus.

Holy fuck are you guys dim.

 

[semen4her]

http://egoscueportland.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/chicken-with-head-cut-off.jpg?w=620

 

[KingOrfeo]

I always know I've done it right, when the Liticons pop in to post nothing but content-free snarl-words.

 

[miles]

I always know I've done it right, when the Liticons pop in to post nothing but content-free snarl-words.

We're laughing at your content free c&p.

 

[RobDownSouth]

We're laughing at your content free c&p.

And we, in turn, are laughing at your obsession to bash President Obama, Miles Ben Zonah.

YCSDIAF.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The point, if anyone didn't get it, is that calling Romney a "socialist" for his Mormonism is as silly as calling Obama a "Marxist" for associating with some old 1960s radicals in his college days. And the fact that the Mormons today are such an uber-capitalist culture makes it even funnier.