Where's all the threads about Dem voter fraud?

[Sean]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2106172,00.html

None of our righties are getting outraged about this guy though. Why's that, do you suppose?

 

[koalabear]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2106172,00.html

None of our righties are getting outraged about this guy though. Why's that, do you suppose?

Charity Rorie, a mother of four, sat in her Mishawaka, Ind., kitchen, stunned that her name appeared on a 2008 Democratic presidential primary petition for then-candidate Barack Obama.

"That's not my signature," she told Fox News, saying her signature is "absolutely" a fake. She also said she was troubled someone forged both her signature and that of her husband, Jeff, and listed personal details such as their address and birthdays.



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ential-primary-election-fraud-probe-heats-up/

None of our lefties are getting outraged about this guy though. Why's that, do you suppose?

 

[Sean]

Charity Rorie, a mother of four, sat in her Mishawaka, Ind., kitchen, stunned that her name appeared on a 2008 Democratic presidential primary petition for then-candidate Barack Obama.

"That's not my signature," she told Fox News, saying her signature is "absolutely" a fake. She also said she was troubled someone forged both her signature and that of her husband, Jeff, and listed personal details such as their address and birthdays.



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ential-primary-election-fraud-probe-heats-up/

None of our lefties are getting outraged about this guy though. Why's that, do you suppose?

Come back when you have a senior state official convicted.

Care to comment on the actual conviction?

 

[koalabear]

Ind. Dem quits in fake-signature flap

An Indiana Democratic county chairman accused of submitting petitions with hundreds of faked signatures for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in the 2008 primary resigned Monday, according to reports.

St. Joseph County Democratic Party Chair Butch Morgan stepped down from his position in light of the scandal, but insisted he had “done nothing wrong,” the South Bend Tribune reported late Monday night. Morgan also resigned as Democratic chair for Indiana’s 2nd Congressional District.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/66227.html#ixzz1lRc95LXa

 

[Wok]

Come back when you have a senior state official convicted.

Care to comment on the actual conviction?

No, because only Republicans get wrongfully convicted, and Democrats get away with it. That's what's wrong with America, and why you kick puppies and kiss terror ass.

Terrorist.

 

[Wrong Element]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2106172,00.html

None of our righties are getting outraged about this guy though. Why's that, do you suppose?

I saw that story earlier today, and thought about bumping MeeMie's four-year-old thread blaming voter fraud for Obama winning by 10 million votes.

SOROS! ACORN! SOROS!

 

[RightField]

I feel bad for the guy, he's having a lot of difficulties with his personal life and trying to do the best he can while the democrats go on a witch hunt.

At the same time, the dems in the same state are fraudulently trying to cheat the voting process and probably getting away with it because they protect their own.

 

[richard_daily]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2106172,00.html

None of our righties are getting outraged about this guy though. Why's that, do you suppose?

I don't remember any Democrats being convicted of voter fraud, and according to wingnuts, there was SO MUCH Democratic voter fraud, that it's extremely odd that no one was charged and convicted over it.

 

[richard_daily]

At the same time, the dems in the same state are fraudulently trying to cheat the voting process and probably getting away with it because they protect their own.

Do you have any proof to back up your accusations, or is it just more feelings?

 

[ksmybuttons]

We have a referendum here so someone is always sticking a petition in my face. It amazes me the number of people who don't even read the form.

 

[koalabear]

Not all Dems are partisan asshats......

"I was very surprised," said the newly elected Democratic chairman of St. Joseph County, State Sen. John Broden. "This is a bipartisan issue that we need to take a look at ... so I hope that this is something, that we as both parties, try to look at what exactly happened, and most importantly, how do we prevent it from happening again."

Broden recently replaced long-serving Democratic Chairman Butch Morgan, who resigned suddenly in October under party pressure because of the scandal.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-election-fraud-probe-heats-up/#ixzz1lRdn30yI

 

[Sean]

I feel bad for the guy, he's having a lot of difficulties with his personal life and trying to do the best he can while the democrats go on a witch hunt.

At the same time, the dems in the same state are fraudulently trying to cheat the voting process and probably getting away with it because they protect their own.

Just...wow.

 

[Wok]

I feel bad for the guy, he's having a lot of difficulties with his personal life and trying to do the best he can while the democrats go on a witch hunt.

At the same time, the dems in the same state are fraudulently trying to cheat the voting process and probably getting away with it because they protect their own.

See, Republicans are railroaded and the Democrats get away with it. It's an evil conspiracy and needs to be stopped today.

 

[richard_daily]

See, Republicans are railroaded and the Democrats get away with it. It's an evil conspiracy and needs to be stopped today.

It must have to do with the lib'rul media.

 

[RightField]

Just...wow.

This guy wasn't fraudulently signing up hundreds of dead people to vote for democrats (or Republicans). His married life fell apart and he should have registered his move to another home, but it's not like he was trying to falsely elect someone.

 

[RightField]

See, Republicans are railroaded and the Democrats get away with it. It's an evil conspiracy and needs to be stopped today.

Yeah, most voter fraud is conducted by democrats...it's just the nature of them.

To try to make the case of this guy who should have registered his move to another home with the overwhelming preponderance of democrat voter fraud is silly. False equivalency. A typical trick.

 

[TexasWife25]

Yeah, most voter fraud is conducted by democrats...it's just the nature of them.

To try to make the case of this guy who should have registered his move to another home with the overwhelming preponderance of democrat voter fraud is silly. False equivalency. A typical trick.

Are you being serious?
Or just putting out outrageous statements in an attempt to rial the liberals and shift the thread
away from the topic at hand?

 

[richard_daily]

Are you being serious?
Or just putting out outrageous statements in an attempt to rial the liberals and shift the thread
away from the topic at hand?

You're new here, so I'll fill you in on something about rightfield; he's an idiot.

 

[Peregrinator]

Are you being serious?
Or just putting out outrageous statements in an attempt to rial the liberals and shift the thread
away from the topic at hand?

Dennis Miller once described Rush Limbaugh as something along the lines of "a shopping cart with a broken wheel that always drifts to the right no matter what."

Rightfield is a nice guy, but he's like that.

 

[TexasWife25]

You're new here, so I'll fill you in on something about rightfield; he's an idiot.

Dennis Miller once described Rush Limbaugh as something along the lines of "a shopping cart with a broken wheel that always drifts to the right no matter what."

Rightfield is a nice guy, but he's like that.

*Sigh*
I always feel let down, when I meet people who are so quick to make
sweeping generalizing on people, based on how they vote.

 

[RightField]

Yes, I do lean conservative. I firmly believe that our nation shouldn't put itself in dangerous levels of debt and that we should keep our levels of taxation and spending at or below historical levels. I believe that more government isn't the answer to every question or need and believe that economic growth is good for the current period and the future ....for our kids. I believe in equal opportunity and think that we should do everything we can to make our schools great. While I believe in equal opportunity, I don't believe in legislated equal outcomes. I believe in good governance and I am firmly against cronyism and am alarmed at the current administration.

Back to voter fraud....

December 11, 2011
Voter Fraud for the Complete Idiot
By Jon N. Hall
American Thinker

A Doonesbury cartoon on a recent Sunday contained a distillation of a current talking point among progressives: "Question: What fraud? Voter fraud is close to non-existent!"

Progressives think that if they make the above claim as though it were an indisputable fact, it will become a fact. All they have to do is repeat the claim over and over again until it sticks. To wit:

An editorialist for The New York Times asserts: "There is almost no voting fraud in America."

At the Center for American Progress, Eric Alterman writes: "Members of the mainstream media often give too much credence to empty claims of 'voter fraud.'"

At the Brennan Center for Justice, we read: "Allegations of widespread fraud by malevolent voters are easy to make, but often prove to be inflated or inaccurate."

In The Nation, left-wing firebrand Katrina Vanden Heuvel alleges: "Voter fraud -- the impersonation of a voter by another person -- is extremely rare in the United States."

An uncouth gal for Daily Kos writes: "Some [Republicans] acknowledge that voter fraud is essentially non-existent." (Who are these Republicans?)

At Mother Jones, we read: "While Republicans have argued such rules are necessary to combat 'voter fraud,' examples of the kind of in-person voter fraud that might be curbed by such requirements are miniscule."

At Slate we read: "Large-scale, coordinated vote stealing doesn't happen."

A lady at Think Progress writes: "Like conservative state legislatures across the country, Maine Republicans have been pushing a Voter ID law, ostensibly to prevent non-existent voter fraud." (Italics added.)

A blogger at Media Matters writes: "Instances of actual voter fraud are very rare."

(There may be a subliminal message in there somewhere.)

The above claims are as absurd as a big-city mayor claiming that last night, no cases of wife-beating occurred in his fair city because, well, no one reported any to the police.

Question: how is a poll worker manning a voting station supposed to know that a voter checking in to vote is about to commit voter fraud -- if that voter is registered?

If the voter's name is on the signature roster, the poll worker must assume that the registrar has thoroughly vetted him and that he is properly registered. What's a poll worker supposed to do if a "suspicious-looking" voter shows his ID (if even required in the state) and is on the list? The poll worker hasn't the means to challenge a voter's registration, nor the time. Besides, that's not his job. To perform his job, the poll worker must depend on the voter registration system.

One way in which voter fraud (illegal voting) is made possible is by the registration of people who aren't eligible to vote. Such registrations are due to fraud (or to error) committed by registrants and even by registrars. But the most important factor contributing to corrupted voter registries is the voter registration system itself.

Voter registration in America is backward and not worthy of a great nation. And despite the fact that registration involves very little information, registrars do not verify the most important requirement for voting in America -- citizenship. The Brennan Center reports:


At least 10 states ... introduced legislation that would require proof of citizenship to register or vote. ... Previously, the only state to attempt to require proof of citizenship was Arizona. That law has been enjoined by a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which has recently heard that appeal en banc.

So the nation's most progressive circuit court will decide whether Arizonans must share their birthright with foreigners. Immigration Reform Law Institute concludes:


IRLI believes the final outcome of this case will likely define the extent to which states are allowed to prevent non-citizens from being added to their voter rolls. A final decision could affect other states that have enacted laws which require proof of eligibility to vote at registration. Those states have determined that preventing unauthorized voting is in their respective state's interest.

Question: if the final outcome of this case does go in Arizona's favor, will the state's method for verifying the citizenship of voter registrants be sufficient? That is, will Arizona voter registries contain citizens only?

Given the mechanisms of our election systems, voter fraud can be impossible to detect. And if it can't be detected, it can't be quantified. Hence: no voter fraud.

Part of the controversy over "voter fraud," which progressives downplay as voter impersonation, is the term itself. Folks concerned about the integrity of our elections should start using the more inclusive term "election fraud," which includes voter fraud, registration fraud, and other types of fraud, such as fraud committed by election officials.

Republicans don't know precisely how much voter fraud actually occurs -- but then, neither does anyone else. However, voter fraud occurs more frequently than progressives would have us believe, as was ably demonstrated by Hans A. von Spakovsky in an August National Review article:


The claim that there is no voter fraud in the U.S. is patently ridiculous, given our rich and unfortunate history of it. As the U.S. Supreme Court said when it upheld Indiana's photo-ID law in 2008, "Flagrant examples of such fraud . . . have been documented throughout this Nation's history by respected historians and journalists." The liberal groups that fought Indiana's law didn't have much luck with liberal justice John Paul Stevens, who wrote the 6-3 decision. Before being named to the Supreme Court, Justice Stevens practiced law in Chicago, a hotbed of electoral malfeasance.

Requiring photo IDs to vote is better than nothing and may help at the margins, but it isn't going to stop voter fraud. Would poll workers have photos of all registrants on hand to match against the photos presented by voters? (A better solution lies elsewhere.)

The left-wing quotes above don't even rise to the level of speculation; they're part of a deliberate concerted effort to deceive -- a propaganda campaign. Alleging that voter fraud doesn't exist is a straw man designed to divert attention away from other more pressing election problems. Alleging that an undetectable fraud doesn't exist draws attention away from the frauds that can be detected, but aren't. Alleging that voter fraud doesn't exist whitewashes America's voter registration mess.

Progressives allege that new voter ID requirements are meant to suppress turnout, especially of "the wrong kind of people," as the Doonesbury cartoon puts it. But the progressives' resistance to even the most basic safeguards is an attempt to keep elections open to theft. Progressives don't care about the integrity of elections; they just want to win, by whatever means necessary.

America is fast approaching what some think is the most important election in our lives, an election that will determine what kind of nation we are going to be. And yet we come to this critical decision with election systems that can be gamed.


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/voter_fraud_for_the_complete_idiot.html#ixzz1lRihDjFT

 

[Sean]

And away we go with the c+p's.

 

[Wrong Element]

Are you being serious?
Or just putting out outrageous statements in an attempt to rial the liberals and shift the thread
away from the topic at hand?

When RightField says something ridiculous, he's always serious. This is a man who once claimed the recession that began in late 2007 was caused by businesses being afraid of the impending Obama presidency, even though Obama was still running behind Hillary at the time.

He's always polite so I'll give him that, but his posts are hackery in their purest distilled form.

 

[Sean]

When RightField says something ridiculous, he's always serious. This is a man who once claimed the recession that began in late 2007 was caused by businesses being afraid of the impending Obama presidency, even though Obama was still running behind Hillary at the time.

He's always polite so I'll give him that, but his posts are hackery in their purest distilled form.

He has a habit of running away when asked to back up his bullshit, too.

 

[coastal-boy]

Are you being serious?
Or just putting out outrageous statements in an attempt to rial the liberals and shift the thread
away from the topic at hand?

You need to understand that there are all types of fetishes. Some people, can only cum when they are in the midst of an argument. They purposely say outrageous things just to try to get the ball rolling.