Conservatives Remain the Largest Ideological Group in U.S.

[RobDownSouth]

Anyone else want to tackle this mental giant? He's just not much of a challenge anymore.

Maybe you should post HIS childrens' pictures here to "teach him a lesson" like you and "Karen" did to me.

Curl up and die, you shitsucking son of a bitch.

 

[koalabear]

Maybe ask them touchstone questions on the issues? I dunno. It just seems to me that I could easily call myself a conservative or a liberal, depending on the issue. So how do I answer that poll?

Who cares? Whatever label you come up with I can cite a position of mine that counters it.

Bwahaha...what?


I was thinking exactly the opposite, ya wingnut.

I'm not voting for any one that is in office and up for election,Lib commie.

 

[miles]

This is just exactly like those recent polls that show the rising popularity of socialism among Americans, except that the survey did not define "socialism," so they're really just polling for the popularity of the word.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

 

[unregistered]

 

[garbage can]

Really? Him and what army? (Not the U.S. Army, to be sure.)

Goldwater wanted to fight a real war.

LBJ wanted to fight a political war right up to our defeat

If you're foolish enough to think that Goldwater wouldn't have won that war easily.............Hey

 

[KingOrfeo]

Goldwater wanted to fight a real war.

LBJ wanted to fight a political war right up to our defeat

If you're foolish enough to think that Goldwater wouldn't have won that war easily.............Hey

"Political war"? Whatever war LBJ "wanted" to fight, a real war was the one he actually fought.

 

[Peregrinator]

Will you guys at least try to make sense?

I'm not voting for any one that is in office and up for election,Lib commie.

So what? My point is that on Lit we don't label ourselves, we get labelled by others. Which is exactly what you just did. See?

We could get a bunch of liberal academics together and decide on the right questions to ask in order to arrive at a predetermined outcome, like we have in the past.

Why even post something this dumb? How about you pick a famous conservative thinker, respected by nearly all conservatives (too bad Buckley is dead; he would have been perfect), and an equivalent liberal, and let them write the touchstone questions for their own tribe?

Do you even understand what I'm saying?

 

[unregistered]

 

[KingOrfeo]

Trouble with all of you liberals is, your complete inability to accept an ordinary man's assessment of his own beliefs, especially when the outcome threatens your belief system.

The Gallup poll apparently didn't define "conservative." That label covers at least half a dozen factions that don't see eye-to-eye. Which should be obvious to anybody watching the GOP primaries.

 

[eyer]

I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!


Friggin' words still give me political wood...

 

[unregistered]

 

[KingOrfeo]

I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!


Friggin' words still give me political wood...

Someone should have reminded Goldwater that stupidity in the defense of extremism is no surprise.

It never seems to have occurred to Goldwater -- certainly it hardly every occurs to libertarians nowadays -- that liberty and justice are often in conflict.

 

[Peregrinator]

Trouble with all of you liberals is, your complete inability to accept an ordinary man's assessment of his own beliefs, especially when the outcome threatens your belief system.

George W Bush called himself a conservative. Think about it.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Yes of course, give us your theory on how they are really unknowing Socialists.

Actually I'm expecting to hear your theory on how half of them are. That's the way it seems to be going on the right these days.

 

[unregistered]

 

[garbage can]

"Political war"? Whatever war LBJ "wanted" to fight, a real war was the one he actually fought.

Hey, believe what you want to believe.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Think about his spending spree and tell me he was a conservative.

There's an example. There are many conservatives with just as good a claim as yours to the name, to whom budget matters are irrelevant, or of trivial importance compared with abortion or border-control or gun rights or whatever.

 

[garbage can]

Maybe ask them touchstone questions on the issues? I dunno. It just seems to me that I could easily call myself a conservative or a liberal, depending on the issue. So how do I answer that poll?

Who cares? Whatever label you come up with I can cite a position of mine that counters it.Bwahaha...what?


I was thinking exactly the opposite, ya wingnut.

Hah, Try this.... I think you're actually a conservative disguised as a liberal.........

 

[garbage can]

George W Bush called himself a conservative. Think about it.

You liberals believed it.

We conservatives (errr, me), didn't believe it.............

 

[Peregrinator]

Very few politicians run as liberals. Bush, like his dad before him was what we used to call a Rockefeller Republican, a moderate at best. I only voted for him because he was running against a more liberal Democrat. You think about it. Think about his spending spree and tell me he was a conservative. Just more conservative than the Democrat alternative.

You liberals believed it.

We conservatives (errr, me), didn't believe it.............

Which is exactly my point.

Had he been a respondent in the poll, he would have said he was a conservative. That's why I commented on the poll being about people labeling themselves.

Is that close enough to fourth grade for you guys, or you need me to dumb it down yet another notch?

 

[Peregrinator]

Hah, Try this.... I think you're actually a conservative disguised as a liberal.........

Okay. Whatever label you like for me is just fine, Garby. I take positions on individual issues and vote as close as I can get to those positions. If that's a conservative disguised as a liberal, I guess I know how to vote on the poll next time it comes around. If that's an option, that is.

 

[koalabear]

Will you guys at least try to make sense?


So what? My point is that on Lit we don't label ourselves, we get labelled by others. Which is exactly what you just did. See?

Slither onward Beck.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Which is exactly my point.

Had he been a respondent in the poll, he would have said he was a conservative. That's why I commented on the poll being about people labeling themselves.

Is that close enough to fourth grade for you guys, or you need me to dumb it down yet another notch?

Probably at least two more notches.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

George W Bush called himself a conservative. Think about it.

George W. Bush called himself a "compassionate conservative" in order to distance himself from "those" conservatives...

Do you forget history much?

...

U_D, you're even funnier; you forgot Clinton was the Sec State...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Which is exactly my point.

Had he been a respondent in the poll, he would have said he was a conservative. That's why I commented on the poll being about people labeling themselves.

Is that close enough to fourth grade for you guys, or you need me to dumb it down yet another notch?

I just love being lectured to by graduates of the fourth grade.