Extreme Penetrations - the Mechanics

[LordMhoram]

Of the various forums available here, I chose to ask this here since I suspect those of SM experience might be the best qualified (through experience?) to answer these questions.

I am writing a story that may move into the BDSM realm somewhat, and one activity I am contemplating for my female lead is some extreme penetrations. I value accuracy in what I write and read, so I would like some realistic information on the following, as well as insight as to the sensations and emotions of the recipient.

Double Penetration

Let us suppose that an average woman, without extensive prior preparation, can accept into her pussy an object of maximum size Pm, and likewise, her ass could receive a maximum of size Am. Common sense suggests to me that she could not accept both penetrations simultaneously.

Do you agree? If so, but what margin would you consider the objects need be reduced to permit DP?

Deep Throat

On this subject I haven't the vaguest idea of what would be reasonable dimensions. Is there enormous variation just as there is with vaginal capacity? Or is the diameter of a throat far more limited in deviation from average?

What is a range of realistic thickness you might expect a throat to manage without damage?

Whipping

While I have your attention I have questions about whipping. Specifically, for the purpose of heightening sensitivity.

How hard? How long? Repeating on the same area? Material of the whip? Difference for back, thighs, ass, breasts, and pussy?


My thanks in advance...

 

[Stella_Omega]

Common sense suggests to me that she could not accept both penetrations simultaneously.

Do you agree? If so, but what margin would you consider the objects need be reduced to permit DP?

I do agree. However, I have no idea what the reduction ratio would have to be, I think it would vary from woman to woman. As a writer, I would approach such a question from the very subjective veiwpoint, because how it all feels is far more important to us than the numbers are.

MMM. I can think of a number of ways to...approach this. Laboratory time is calling me!

Deep throating, if she isn't used to it, she will gag and possibly vomit. Probably vomit. And just how big is her top's dick, anyway? Let him be average, the head of his dick will bump the back of her throat.

ON whipping, again-- it's all subjective. The first time someone gets flogged, or spanked, or whipped, it can often happen that they are so full of endorphins and excitement that they can't really feel much pain at all-- even feel disappointed about it. The second session-- oh boy, that hurts, much to a person's shock and dismay.

 

[StrayKat]

Let us suppose that an average woman, without extensive prior preparation, can accept into her pussy an object of maximum size Pm, and likewise, her ass could receive a maximum of size Am. Common sense suggests to me that she could not accept both penetrations simultaneously.

Do you agree? If so, but what margin would you consider the objects need be reduced to permit DP?

An average woman is quite capable of having DP with two average men. Since monster cocks are not exactly found on every corner, all I have experienced are "normal" to "bigger" men and I had no problem whatsoever. You would be surprised what average horny woman is capable of.
If somebody started to talk about "reducing the objects" at that point, I would probably grow instantly incapable of accepting any kind of object

Maybe you should actually try the situation and judge for yourself?

 

[Stella_Omega]

If somebody started to talk about "reducing the objects" at that point, I would probably grow instantly incapable of accepting any kind of object

Oh i don't know-- I think laboratory talk is kind of kinky

 

[StrayKat]

Oh i don't know-- I think laboratory talk is kind of kinky

Tried that with my first husband, didnt like.

Maybe with different person...

 

[Stella_Omega]

Tried that with my first husband, didnt like.

Maybe with different person...

it's a skill.

 

[StrayKat]

it's a skill.

One learns something new every day.
I should try to find someone skilled then...

 

[DVS]

Pm x Am = DP

Pm x Am /.5 = DP p[1{P}]

DP p[{1{P}] = Pm x Am /.5

Pm x Am /.5 = x p[1{A}]

Am x Pm /.5 = DP p[1{A]]

Am (y p[1{A}]) = (Am y) p[1]

DP - Pm = Am

DP - Am = Pm

x + y = FP (2)

y = DT

(Am Pm) = DP

(Am Pm) + y = (DP DT)

(Am Pm) -1 = DP p[-1{AP}]

DP + y = FP

FP x ~ = x

x = OMG

 

[StrayKat]

Omg DVS rolling on the floor laughing here

 

[DVS]

Omg DVS rolling on the floor laughing here

I'm not just another good looking dom. I have talents and skills, too.

 

[StrayKat]

I'm not just another good looking dom. I have talents and skills, too.

Yeah you almost make me want to crawl over to the dark side.
Thank God there is a whole ocean inbetween

 

[LordMhoram]

Pm x Am = DP

Pm x Am /.5 = DP p[1{P}]

DP p[{1{P}] = Pm x Am /.5

Pm x Am /.5 = x p[1{A}]

Am x Pm /.5 = DP p[1{A]]

Am (y p[1{A}]) = (Am y) p[1]

DP - Pm = Am

DP - Am = Pm

x + y = FP (2)

y = DT

(Am Pm) = DP

(Am Pm) + y = (DP DT)

(Am Pm) -1 = DP p[-1{AP}]

DP + y = FP

FP x ~ = x

x = OMG

Ah, I see where I went wrong. I forgot to carry over the Ky and came up with x=42. Thank you for the correction.

 

[His_pet_slut]

Pm x Am = DP

Pm x Am /.5 = DP p[1{P}]

DP p[{1{P}] = Pm x Am /.5

Pm x Am /.5 = x p[1{A}]

Am x Pm /.5 = DP p[1{A]]

Am (y p[1{A}]) = (Am y) p[1]

DP - Pm = Am

DP - Am = Pm

x + y = FP (2)

y = DT

(Am Pm) = DP

(Am Pm) + y = (DP DT)

(Am Pm) -1 = DP p[-1{AP}]

DP + y = FP

FP x ~ = x

x = OMG

Please Sir, may I sign up for math tutoring sessions? I think I need some refresher courses.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I'm not just another good looking dom. I have talents and skills, too.

A man for ALL seasons.

 

[DVS]

Ah, I see where I went wrong. I forgot to carry over the Ky and came up with x=42. Thank you for the correction.

Don't feel bad. I missed it at first, too. That was one of the calculation corrections I had to make.

 

[DVS]

Please Sir, may I sign up for math tutoring sessions? I think I need some refresher courses.

Why, of course. I always have time for tutoring. Be advised...I'm a strict task master.

 

[YourCaptor]

Are you writing a technical manual on fantasies? Or are you just gonna write a story that gives dimensions with nanometer error margins?

Also your section on whipping is not nearly technical enough. Eric Kandel et al, demonstrated in the marine mollusk Aplysia Californica that sensitization is achieved by simultaneously pairing a strong electrical stimulus with a light touch. The strong electrical stimulus triggers interneurons which facilitate the presynaptic processes of sensory neurons, resulting in a higher motor neuron stimulus and potentially synaptic growth.

... Even that's rather superficial, but I'm stopping before I start talking calcium ions, and cyclic AMP.

Anyway, it's smut, treat it as such.

 

[LordMhoram]

I do agree. However, I have no idea what the reduction ratio would have to be, I think it would vary from woman to woman. As a writer, I would approach such a question from the very subjective veiwpoint, because how it all feels is far more important to us than the numbers are.

Okay, that is sufficient answer right there. My editor (female) once steered me away from specifics, and I think now I'll adopt this as the standard method for dealing with such issues; let the reader apply such dimensions as tickles their particular fancy.

ON whipping, again-- it's all subjective. The first time someone gets flogged, or spanked, or whipped, it can often happen that they are so full of endorphins and excitement that they can't really feel much pain at all-- even feel disappointed about it. The second session-- oh boy, that hurts, much to a person's shock and dismay.

This, I could use more input on. Seriously, if you would expand as much as you feel comfortable sharing on your statement, I would be your avid audience. You've told me just enough to pique my curiosity; you hint at a depth of knowledge of the experience.

Or not. Maybe I should avoid this in my writing since one is best advised to 'write what you know', yes?

 

[StrayKat]

but I'm stopping before I start talking calcium ions, and cyclic AMP.

Oh cammon, I just got all warmed up to lab talk...

 

[His_pet_slut]

Why, of course. I always have time for tutoring. Be advised...I'm a strict task master.

What's the point in a lax task master? *innocent look*