Paul " Punky " Krugman / 9-11 editorial

[Powertone]

the best line of the op/ed is his last one.
may he be deluged with " hate " mail dumped on his office desk for a month in lieu of the comments he can't bear to see online---
" the conscience of a liberal " begins below :

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/the-years-of-shame/?smid=tw-NytimesKrugman&seid=auto

September 11, 2011, 8:41 am
The Years of Shame

Is it just me, or are the 9/11 commemorations oddly subdued?

Actually, I don’t think it’s me, and it’s not really that odd.

What happened after 9/11 — and I think even people on the right know this, whether they admit it or not — was deeply shameful. Te atrocity should have been a unifying event, but instead it became a wedge issue. Fake heroes like Bernie Kerik, Rudy Giuliani, and, yes, George W. Bush raced to cash in on the horror. And then the attack was used to justify an unrelated war the neocons wanted to fight, for all the wrong reasons.

A lot of other people behaved badly. How many of our professional pundits — people who should have understood very well what was happening — took the easy way out, turning a blind eye to the corruption and lending their support to the hijacking of the atrocity?

The memory of 9/11 has been irrevocably poisoned; it has become an occasion for shame. And in its heart, the nation knows it.

I’m not going to allow comments on this post, for obvious reasons.

 

[eyer]

Did he mention anything about:

Taliban 'offered bin Laden trial before 9/11'

Former minister says group was prepared to see bin Laden put on trial prior to 9/11, but US was not interested.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2011/09/20119115334167663.html

 

[phrodeau]

When you write him, be sure not to use capital letters.

 

[eyer]

aljazeera does have their own special way of observing the day...

Chomsky: 9/11 - was there an alternative?

Suppression of one's own crimes is virtually ubiquitous among powerful states, at least those that are not defeated.

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/09/20119775453842191.html

 

[Powertone]

When you write him, be sure not to use capital letters.

YOU BE A FUCKIN FUNNY MOTHERFUCKER , MAN...YOU A FUCKING FUNNY MAN

 

[unregistered]

 

[Killswitch]

When you write him, be sure not to use capital letters.

bwahahahaha.

Nicely done.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Did he mention anything about:

Taliban 'offered bin Laden trial before 9/11'

Former minister says group was prepared to see bin Laden put on trial prior to 9/11, but US was not interested.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2011/09/20119115334167663.html

From your link:

"No one in the US government took these [offers] seriously because they did not trust the Taliban and their ability to conduct a proper trial."

So the only reasonable question is, "Why would you?"

 

[Powertone]

bwahahahaha.

Nicely done.

that aside you agree with Krugman .

 

[RobDownSouth]

Another hate filled anti-American Liberal.

What, exactly, makes this commentary "hate filled" and "anti-American"?

The mere fact that he makes comments you dislike?

 

[Powertone]

What, exactly, makes this commentary "hate filled" and "anti-American"?

The mere fact that he makes comments you dislike?

no . it's the mere fact that you agree with all of them .

 

[rustywilliams]

the best line of the op/ed is his last one.
may he be deluged with " hate " mail dumped on his office desk for a month in lieu of the comments he can't bear to see online---
" the conscience of a liberal " begins below :

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/the-years-of-shame/?smid=tw-NytimesKrugman&seid=auto

September 11, 2011, 8:41 am
The Years of Shame

Is it just me, or are the 9/11 commemorations oddly subdued?

Actually, I don’t think it’s me, and it’s not really that odd.

What happened after 9/11 — and I think even people on the right know this, whether they admit it or not — was deeply shameful. Te atrocity should have been a unifying event, but instead it became a wedge issue. Fake heroes like Bernie Kerik, Rudy Giuliani, and, yes, George W. Bush raced to cash in on the horror. And then the attack was used to justify an unrelated war the neocons wanted to fight, for all the wrong reasons.

A lot of other people behaved badly. How many of our professional pundits — people who should have understood very well what was happening — took the easy way out, turning a blind eye to the corruption and lending their support to the hijacking of the atrocity?

The memory of 9/11 has been irrevocably poisoned; it has become an occasion for shame. And in its heart, the nation knows it.

I’m not going to allow comments on this post, for obvious reasons.

There is a lot of truth in this.
Why do you find intelligent thought so threatening?

 

[Wok]

What, exactly, makes this commentary "hate filled" and "anti-American"?

The mere fact that he makes comments you dislike?

Krugman used a word I have not seen in quite some time - "neocon".

 

[miles]

no . it's the mere fact that you agree with all of them .

Best post of the month.

 

[miles]

Nobody with a brain thought Bush and Rudy were trying to act like heroes. The article is idiotic. They were showing leadership, which is obviously a foreign concept to the author and anyone who agrees with him.

 

[rustywilliams]

Nobody with a brain thought Bush and Rudy were trying to act like heroes. The article is idiotic. They were showing leadership, which is obviously a foreign concept to the author and anyone who agrees with him.

They certainly cashed in on it in a big way.

 

[miles]

They certainly cashed in on it in a big way.

In your mind, of course.

 

[miles]

Consider the credentials of the author:

Professor of Economics and International Affairs at the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton University.

 

[Jackotheshadows]

I think it's quite easy to sit back, a decade later, and point out mistakes, real or imagined (personally, I think events after 9/11 were filled with both).

For once, I would like to know what the folks who wring their hands and bewail the cascade of events after 9/11 would have done differently. We know that many liberal Americans hate the Patriot Act, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, creation of Homeland Security, etc..

So, how then, without any of those events and actions, would they have pursued Al Queda, prevented additional, potentially more catastrophic attacks and reassured the American people that they were doing all in their power to ensure they were safe?

 

[RobDownSouth]

no . it's the mere fact that you agree with all of them .

There's more than a grain of truth in your screed. People like you and the Vettebigot reflexively "hate" anyone you happen to disagree with, on "principle".

 

[RobDownSouth]

Nobody with a brain thought Bush and Rudy were trying to act like heroes. The article is idiotic. They were showing leadership, which is obviously a foreign concept to the author and anyone who agrees with him.

Riiiiiight. That's why Bush and cronies used an attack by Saudi religious extremists as an excuse to invade Iraq.

That's some mighty fine "leadership" there....

 

[RobDownSouth]

Consider the credentials of the author:

Professor of Economics and International Affairs at the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton University.

"Attack the source" and "guilt by association" in one sentence.

Nobody beats Miles in the Logical Fallacy Game. Nobody.

 

[Wok]

What is wrong with Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs? Their Cold War project is pretty cool.

 

[rustywilliams]

I think it's quite easy to sit back, a decade later, and point out mistakes, real or imagined (personally, I think events after 9/11 were filled with both).

For once, I would like to know what the folks who wring their hands and bewail the cascade of events after 9/11 would have done differently. We know that many liberal Americans hate the Patriot Act, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, creation of Homeland Security, etc..

So, how then, without any of those events and actions, would they have pursued Al Queda, prevented additional, potentially more catastrophic attacks and reassured the American people that they were doing all in their power to ensure they were safe?

Specifically?

1. Raise taxes to pay for the wars.
Surely no-one in the country would have complained about being asked to chip in to cover the cost of a just war. It would have left us in far better shape.

2. Not use rendition. It is a disgrace to our country that we even considered it, nevermind actually doing it.

 

[Powertone]

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