Who would marry a Prostitute?

[mercury14]

I feel that is barely better than prostitution at best, and it's not uncommon for it to be defined as such. It's a transaction. She doesn't love him for him, she loves him for his money. The only difference is she stays with him for as long as he can pay.

What if she marries him for money and he goes broke?

People enter into marriage for alot of reasons, not just one. People find financially secure partners more interesting and attractive. It's not like prostitution at all since marriage has so much to do with lifelong security.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Oh, lone wolf. I get it.

And it's also the disgust of being cheered on particularly by you.

Mercury14 at least can rationally discuss his argument. You, sir, have struck every branch on the stupid tree from the OP until now.

"And if you see a Sailor married to a Filipino or Tai woman, you can betcha that they married a prostitute" isn't racist? Really? You're crazier than a guano sweeper.

 

[renard_ruse]

...Or Option D: Asian women may also feel they acquire more rights as a human being if they marry an American and come back to America...

You criticize the OP for alleged racism for making a reasonably factual statement, then make a statement that could equally be considered racist using the same logic. What makes you feel that Asian culture or Asian men deny their own women human rights? Isn't that a racist assumption using your logic about the original post? Just asking.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

People enter into marriage for alot of reasons, not just one. People find financially secure partners more interesting and attractive. It's not like prostitution at all since marriage has so much to so security.

Agreed, for the most part. But for a woman who marries for financial security, where does the marriage typically go when he goes broke?

 

[mercury14]

Racist? Not at all. You cannot make that substitution and result in a valid analogy. By making it about color is way different. I am talking about a class of poor people who's business is prostituting. That's what they do. It's their job because they are poor!! Not race related at all.

YOU SAID IT WAS ABOUT RACE, moron. Here you go again, forgetting posts you made just a few minutes ago when people hold you accountable for your baseless crap. It's these "Filippina and Thai women who are hookers", remember? You're singling out a few races and applying an extraordinarily racist stereotype.

These are first had storied of a few Sailors I've known through the years. We know you experience differs from theirs' Were you commissioned? What will you say next, that the guys I know were lowly enlisted men?

You have no evidence that American guys are marrying mass Asian hookers.

Where is your evidence other than that was your experience? See, it goes both ways.

I called it! You're abso-fucking-loutly bankrupt for evidence to back your point. But you shift, dodge, and suddenly you don't need any evidence at all!

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

You criticize the OP for alleged racism for making a reasonably factual statement, then make a statement that could equally be considered racist using the same logic. What makes you feel that Asian culture or Asian men deny their own women human rights? Isn't that a racist assumption using your logic about the original post? Just asking.

Okay, point taken. The OP was pushing an Asian perspective so I got suckered into addressing it in the perspective of a man meeting an Asian woman.

So, I will rephrase, eliminating all reference to race or nationality.

ANY woman from a nation/culture that doesn't respect women, may feel they acquire more rights as a human being if they marry a person from a nation/culture where women have more rights, and come back with that person to their home town.

 

[pornstarwannabe]

"And if you see a Sailor married to a Filipino or Tai woman, you can betcha that they married a prostitute"

That singles out a particular race and assigns a stereotype.

It's racist.

I know you're too stupid to grasp this but I sure as hell want to distance myself from you after you soiled my name with your "LJ wins" rant.

Dude. You need a course in logic, and perhaps course in classification theory. I did not single by race. I singled out by impoverishment. It just so happens these impoverished nations are Asian.

Sailors marry Japanese citizens. Were there Japanese wives hookers? I do not know but I doubt it severely. Japan is much more upscale than the nations in question.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Dude. You need a course in logic, and perhaps course in classification theory. I did not single by race.

You know, the Black Knight got dismembered by his opponent.
Unlike you, he did not dismember himself while his opponent stood watching.

 

[mercury14]

Agreed, for the most part. But for a woman who marries for financial security, where does the marriage typically go when he goes broke?

Women tend to marry financially secure men, since it means a secure life and a secure, safe situation to raise children. I'm not even talking about rich men, just financially secure.

It's all very logical: would most people rather marry someone with a 10th grade education and $40,000 of credit card debt or someone with a college degree and and a $60k per year job? One choice leads to stress and instability and the other leads to less stress and more happiness. None of it is money-grubbing or marrying just for money. It's all part of finding the right partner to marry.

 

[pornstarwannabe]

YOU SAID IT WAS ABOUT RACE, moron. Here you go again, forgetting posts you made just a few minutes ago when people hold you accountable for your baseless crap. It's these "Filippina and Thai women who are hookers", remember? You're singling out a few races and applying an extraordinarily racist stereotype.




You have no evidence that American guys are marrying mass Asian hookers.




I called it! You're abso-fucking-loutly bankrupt for evidence to back your point. But you shift, dodge, and suddenly you don't need any evidence at all!

See post 82.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Women tend to marry financially secure men, since it means a secure life and a secure, safe situation to raise children. I'm not even talking about rich men, just financially secure.

True, but what women tend to do does not relate very much to whether it's close to prostitution. That it is commonplace doesn't make it one thing or another.

It's all very logical: would most people rather marry someone with a 10th grade education and $40,000 of credit card debt or someone with a college degree and and a $60k per year job? One choice leads to stress and instability and the other leads to less stress and more happiness. None of it is money-grubbing or marrying just for money. It's all part of finding the right partner to marry.

Well, you can answer the question of whether it's money grubbing or not by asking what happens when the financial security goes away. You do know what happens to a marriage when arguments about money become common.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

See post 82.

Chop! PSW cuts off his own arm.

 

[mercury14]

Dude. You need a course in logic, and perhaps course in classification theory. I did not single by race. I singled out by impoverishment. It just so happens these impoverished nations are Asian.

Yes you singled out by race because that's what you posted. LJ already quoted you, proving this fact undeniably.

And where are you on your denial that you extolled the great advances in the field of gay curing? Still denying you said it? Let me know and I'll humiliate you some more with your own posts. I have it right here in my next tab.

Sailors marry Japanese citizens. Were there Japanese wives hookers? I do not know but I doubt it severely. Japan is much more upscale than the nations in question.

Oops! Prostitution is rampant in Japan and the few laws they have against it are not enforced. When I was stationed in Japan, driving onto base there would be a parade of hung-over Japanese girls staggering out the gate every morning. And heaps of men married Japanese women.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Ah, I gotta go. I suspect PSW will have reduced himself to a stump by the time I get back.

 

[pornstarwannabe]

Fairly factual post, won't go over too well on the Politically Correct board here. They don't like the truth if its doesn't suit their Politically Correct sensitivities. RoryN / BBS is the worst of the bunch.

I'd say thanks, but don't want to get blasted.


And for all the lazy/PC folks, see this (one of many example).
BAR GIRLS: FROM AN AMERICAN SAILOR'S PERSPECTIVE

 

[mercury14]

Well, you can answer the question of whether it's money grubbing or not by asking what happens when the financial security goes away. You do know what happens to a marriage when arguments about money become common.

It's tremendously stressful. But none of this means that a woman doesn't genuinely love a man she married, partly for security. I'm not talking about loveless marriages that materialistic, self-centered people enter into in order to live a certain way.

 

[pornstarwannabe]

It's tremendously stressful. But none of this means that a woman doesn't genuinely love a man she married, partly for security. I'm not talking about loveless marriages that materialistic, self-centered people enter into in order to live a certain way.

let me guess: you married an Asian?

 

[mercury14]

I'd say thanks, but don;t want to get blasted.


And for all the lazy/PC folks, see this (one of many example).
BAR GIRLS: FROM AN AMERICAN SAILOR'S PERSPECTIVE

Okay two things:

1) Microsoft Security Essentials blocked a Trojan when I clicked your link. Thanks a lot.

2) That blog is about an American guy cheating on his (presumably American ) girlfriend who is back in Virginia. And nowhere does it talk about American service members marrying prostitutes, anecdotally or otherwise.

 

[pornstarwannabe]

Bar Fines?

Really. Google is your friend.

 

[mercury14]

let me guess: you married an Asian?

Nah, married some chick from upstate New York with Swedish/Italian roots.

 

[renard_ruse]

...ANY woman from a nation/culture that doesn't respect women, may feel they acquire more rights as a human being if they marry a person from a nation/culture where women have more rights, and come back with that person to their home town...

What makes you think that Thai or Phillipino cultures don't offer women as many human rights as American culture?

 

[renard_ruse]

Nah, married some chick from upstate New York with Swedish/Italian roots.

What the hell, first you gave the impression you were a gay man, then a woman, and now you're a man married to a woman?

 

[pornstarwannabe]

Okay two things:

1) Microsoft Security Essentials blocked a Trojan when I clicked your link. Thanks a lot.

2) That blog is about an American guy cheating on his (presumably American ) girlfriend who is back in Virginia. And nowhere does it talk about American service members marrying prostitutes, anecdotally or otherwise.

It talks about prostitution, bar fines, etc. Do some Googling. It'll only take 5 minutes of your time. There are many more links/stories out there.

 

[mercury14]

What makes you think that Thai or Phillipino cultures don't offer women as many human rights as American culture?

Rights aren't even the real issue. It's lack of opportunity and social mobility.

 

[mercury14]

What the hell, first you gave the impression you were a gay man, then a woman, and now you're a man married to a woman?

When did I do that?