Is Obama more progressive/liberal than (Bill) Clinton?

[Never]

Can an educated democrat help me out?

Most of Obama's social policies and attitudes seem similar to Clinton's 18-10 years ago. Can anyone familiar with politics point out areas where Obama is stronger or more progressive?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Can an educated democrat help me out?

Most of Obama's social policies and attitudes seem similar to Clinton's 18-10 years ago. Can anyone familiar with politics point out areas where Obama is stronger or more progressive?

Clinton was a better sales person. He also had more respect for business than Obama.

one thing that most people never separate, is under Clinton terms we had the biggest boom festering and that was the technology transition. pretty sure that this is when computers (pc's and servers) entered the word force in droves. so money was pouring into the coffers.

also, with so much activity in the economy, the home sector market started to pick up and start of that bubble.

okay this rant wasn't on the political side just some facts on the economy

 

[miles]

I can.

The price of gasoline has just about doubled since The Idiot took office.

 

[Powertone]

I don't think TIME magazine's Mark Halperin ever called Bill Clinton a DICK on live TV .
But he did call Obama one on Joe Scarborough & Mika Bryzinsky's gab fest on MSNBC this morning .
HEADS WILL ROLL !!!!

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Never asked for educated Democrats...




That's why I stayed out.

 

[Never]

Never asked for educated Democrats...


That's why I stayed out.

I don't mean formal education but educated when it comes to Clinton's politics vs Obama's politics.

I think everyone has ignored the democrat bit so far...

 

[miles]

I don't think TIME magazine's Mark Halperin ever called Bill Clinton a DICK on live TV .
But he did call Obama one on Joe Scarborough & Mika Bryzinsky's gab fest on MSNBC this morning .
HEADS WILL ROLL !!!!

PRICELESS!!

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

I don't mean formal education but educated when it comes to Clinton's politics vs Obama's politics.

I think everyone has ignored the democrat bit so far...

Clinton would never say this:


Q: You favor an increase in the capital gains tax, saying, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton, which was 28%.” It’s now 15%. That’s almost a doubling if you went to 28%. Bill Clinton dropped the capital gains tax to 20%, then George Bush has taken it down to 15%. And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28%, the revenues went down.
A: What I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness. The top 50 hedge fund managers made $29 billion last year--$29 billion for 50 individuals. Those who are able to work the stock market and amass huge fortunes on capital gains are paying a lower tax rate than their secretaries. That’s not fair.
Q: But history shows that when you drop the capital gains tax, the revenues go up.
A: Well, that might happen or it might not. It depends on what’s happening on Wall Street and how business is going.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008

 

[Liar]

Had no idea you were all Democrats.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

and on obama:

Q: But history shows that when you drop the capital gains tax, the revenues go up.
A: Well, that might happen or it might not. It depends on what’s happening on Wall Street and how business is going.

obama - we must punish Wall Street and those anti regime people who have the audacity to start a business.

Clinton would never say this:


Q: You favor an increase in the capital gains tax, saying, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton, which was 28%.” It’s now 15%. That’s almost a doubling if you went to 28%. Bill Clinton dropped the capital gains tax to 20%, then George Bush has taken it down to 15%. And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28%, the revenues went down.
A: What I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness. The top 50 hedge fund managers made $29 billion last year--$29 billion for 50 individuals. Those who are able to work the stock market and amass huge fortunes on capital gains are paying a lower tax rate than their secretaries. That’s not fair.
Q: But history shows that when you drop the capital gains tax, the revenues go up.
A: Well, that might happen or it might not. It depends on what’s happening on Wall Street and how business is going.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Had no idea you were all Democrats.

Democrats I can live with, Socialist I cannot

 

[Liar]

Democrats I can live with, Socialist I cannot

Good thing then you live in America, where there are almost no real socialists, and none anywhwere near being in power.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Good thing then you live in America, where there are almost no real socialists, and none anywhwere near being in power.

obama is one too many socialist

 

[richard_daily]

Obama is a moderate-to-slight-right centrist. His policies look a lot more like Reagan's than Clinton's.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Obama isnt anti-business, he's anti the other team's business; much like Al Capone opposed Bugsy Moran's business. Obama likes you fine so long as you pay him protection money and buy his hootch and girls.

Clinton wasnt as deft as Obama about soaking the middleclass. Both know the middleclass is where the tax dollars are cuz the middleclass are small business, and small business generates more money than the Fortune 500 bigshots who offshore their income, or the elites who buy tax free municipal bonds.

 

[PamCarolson]

I can.

The price of gasoline has just about doubled since The Idiot took office.

What about the number of American’s living on entitlements in order to make ends meet? What about the number of American’s that have lost their homes under Obama’s watch?

 

[Liar]

obama is one too many socialist

So, no socialists is one too many?

Could you please describe to us all what -1 socialist looks like?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

So, no socialists is one too many?

Could you please describe to us all what -1 socialist looks like?

why don't you look in the mirror, and tell us

 

[amicus]

I don't think TIME magazine's Mark Halperin ever called Bill Clinton a DICK on live TV .
But he did call Obama one on Joe Scarborough & Mika Bryzinsky's gab fest on MSNBC this morning .
HEADS WILL ROLL !!!!

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That was precious to watch and listen to; I think one of Mika's boobs jumped out, meh, wardrobe malfuction; Dickhead would have been more accurate doncha think, at least in the vernacular?

ami

 

[Liar]

why don't you look in the mirror, and tell us

So you are saying that I'm not a socialist.

Finally you get something right.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

So you are saying that I'm not a socialist.

Finally you get something right.

please, you bleed commie red with socialist dreams and fantasies

 

[amicus]

The SF has a strong grassroots organization: all members can participate in the party congresses but only delegates have voting rights. In May 2010 the party had 17,883 members. Its youth organization is the Youth of the Socialist People's Party. The linked Socialist Popular Education Organisation organizes a yearly political summer meeing for members and non-members in Livø.

[edit] Relationships to other parties

The SF has good relationships with the Social Liberal Party and the Social Democrats who have cooperated in minority governments supported by the SF.

[edit] International organizations

SF is a member of the Nordic Green Left Alliance and has observer status in the European Greens. Between 1979 and 1989 its MEPs sat in the Communists and Allies group. Between 1989 and 1994 its sole MEP was member of the European United Left parliamentary group. Between 1994 and 1999 its sole MEP sat in the Green Group. Between 1999 and 2004 its sole MEP sat in the European United Left - Nordic Green Left group. After 2004 election, SF's sole MEP, Margrete Auken, controversially chose to sit in the European Greens - European Free Alliance group.

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Rational people, who were not occupied first by the Nazi's and then the Soviet Communists and then left sucking hind teat, can have no idea as to the political make-up of any of the low countries. FUBAR is the only answer.



ami

 

[Liar]

please, you bleed commie red with socialist dreams and fantasies

So why did you say in the other post that I am not a socialist?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

So why did you say in the other post that I am not a socialist?

If that helps you sleep at night so be it.

Now, when the zombie apocopate comes, then I’m all fore socialism as money will be worthless

We can do what obama does with money, use it to light his Monica flavored cigars

 

[Liar]

If that helps you sleep at night so be it.

Now, when the zombie apocopate comes, then I’m all fore socialism as money will be worthless

We can do what obama does with money, use it to light his Monica flavored cigars

Decaf time.