Describe your ideal presidential candidate here.

[unregistered]

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Great or even good presidents have rarely been legislative leaders. So, a president's policies or legislative vision are the least of my concerns.

1. Give me a guy who is cool in a crisis, because he will be tested.

2. The most important quality may be his ability to manage the people and the information flow swirling around him. During the Cuban Missile Crisis, Kennedy brilliantly managed both the formal diplomatic exchanges as well as several back channels, all while preparing for an invasion of Cuba with the Joint Chiefs.

I want a president who, while his staff is unanimously yelling, "go, go, go," says, "There must be someone who thinks this is a shitty idea. If he's not on staff go find his ass and bring him in here ASAP."

3. I want a president who has sufficient courage of his convictions that he isn't afraid to acknowledge whatever weakness or controversy may be involved in his positions and actions. We already probably know them anyway. Too many presidents waste much more energy than necessary trying to save face on little shit. I will flat ass rally around a guy who has the guts to say "I don't know" or "I changed my mind."

4. I want a president who understands and is 100% committed to what America's domestic and international interest truly are and is willing to pay most any price to preserve and advance them. I want him to stand up and look us all in the eye and declare that those interests are not subject to compromise based on public opinion polls, negative reporting from the press, financial costs or casualty numbers from the field of battle.

That's my guy.

 

[Wok]

Great or even good presidents have rarely been legislative leaders. So, a president's policies or legislative vision are the least of my concerns.

1. Give me a guy who is cool in a crisis, because he will be tested.

2. The most important quality may be his ability to manage the people and the information flow swirling around him. During the Cuban Missile Crisis, Kennedy brilliantly managed both the formal diplomatic exchanges as well as several back channels, all while preparing for an invasion of Cuba with the Joint Chiefs.

I want a president who, while his staff is unanimously yelling, "go, go, go," says, "There must be someone who thinks this is a shitty idea. If he's not on staff go find his ass and bring him in here ASAP."

3. I want a president who has sufficient courage of his convictions that he isn't afraid to acknowledge whatever weakness or controversy may be involved in his positions and actions. We already probably know them anyway. Too many presidents waste much more energy than necessary trying to save face on little shit. I will flat ass rally around a guy who has the guts to say "I don't know" or "I changed my mind."

4. I want a president who understands and is 100% committed to what America's domestic and international interest truly are and is willing to pay most any price to preserve and advance them. I want him to stand up and look us all in the eye and declare that those interests are not subject to compromise based on public opinion polls, negative reporting from the press, financial costs or casualty numbers from the field of battle.

That's my guy.

Right on. I would add "I was wrong" or "I am sorry" if actions were wrong.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

Great or even good presidents have rarely been legislative leaders. So, a president's policies or legislative vision are the least of my concerns.

1. Give me a guy who is cool in a crisis, because he will be tested.

2. The most important quality may be his ability to manage the people and the information flow swirling around him. During the Cuban Missile Crisis, Kennedy brilliantly managed both the formal diplomatic exchanges as well as several back channels, all while preparing for an invasion of Cuba with the Joint Chiefs.

I want a president who, while his staff is unanimously yelling, "go, go, go," says, "There must be someone who thinks this is a shitty idea. If he's not on staff go find his ass and bring him in here ASAP."

3. I want a president who has sufficient courage of his convictions that he isn't afraid to acknowledge whatever weakness or controversy may be involved in his positions and actions. We already probably know them anyway. Too many presidents waste much more energy than necessary trying to save face on little shit. I will flat ass rally around a guy who has the guts to say "I don't know" or "I changed my mind."

4. I want a president who understands and is 100% committed to what America's domestic and international interest truly are and is willing to pay most any price to preserve and advance them. I want him to stand up and look us all in the eye and declare that those interests are not subject to compromise based on public opinion polls, negative reporting from the press, financial costs or casualty numbers from the field of battle.

That's my guy.

Colonel, you've got my vote.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Right on. I would add "I was wrong" or "I am sorry" if actions were wrong.

Yep! Those, too.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

I hope you can produce your birth certificate.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I hope you can produce your birth certificate.

I don't suppose you would accept some charred bits of parchment that pre-date the Korean War? Also, the hospital in which I was born was torn down years ago for some apartment buildings.



































(Kidding about the charred parchment. True story about the hospital.)

 

[Sonny Limatina]

I don't suppose you would accept some charred bits of parchment that pre-date the Korean War? Also, the hospital in which I was born was torn down years ago for some apartment buildings.


(Kidding about the charred parchment. True story about the hospital.)

This reminds me: you never answered my question about Kansas in the birther thread.

 

[patient1]

Are we talking about the candidate most ideally suited to win or to govern?

I'm guessing you didn't read the entire thread closely.

Basically we established that the ideal candidate is not the ideal president. So Perigrenator asked for the ideal president instead.

I nominated Theodore Roosevelt as the ideal president.

I nominated Kennedy, Reagan, and Obama as ideal candidates, particularly before they'd actually served as president and had a record to answer for.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

This reminds me: you never answered my question about Kansas in the birther thread.

(God, I feel like I'm still married......) "Okay, honey..."

I have no doubt Kansas is part of the United States.

My only doubt about Obama's birthplace revolves around the allegation that the short form "certificate of live birth" is somehow obtainable without actually having been born in Hawaii. Despite that obviously sounding ridiculous, it's not a subject I've investigated at all or heard or seen authoritatively debunked.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Its my experience that the worst thing anyone can do is THE RIGHT THING. People will suffer any treachery and deceit and felony but they wont stand for 'the right thing' at all....BY GOD!

The 2nd worst thing you can do is WHAT EVERYONE DEMANDS. In most cases what the majority wants is nonsense and absurd, and if you do it so they see how ridiculous it all is, theyre embarrassed and wont ever forgive you.

 

[bhurry]

I'm guessing you didn't read the entire thread closely.

Basically we established that the ideal candidate is not the ideal president. So Perigrenator asked for the ideal president instead.

I nominated Theodore Roosevelt as the ideal president.

I nominated Kennedy, Reagan, and Obama as ideal candidates, particularly before they'd actually served as president and had a record to answer for.

How about Lee Iacocca. I,m sure he might just fill both those shoes. Remember him? A recent quote of his(Where have all the leaders Gone? ).

 

[Sonny Limatina]

(God, I feel like I'm still married......) "Okay, honey..."

I have no doubt Kansas is part of the United States.

My only doubt about Obama's birthplace revolves around the allegation that the short form "certificate of live birth" is somehow obtainable without actually having been born in Hawaii. Despite that obviously sounding ridiculous, it's not a subject I've investigated at all or heard or seen authoritatively debunked.

Do you have any doubt that the woman whose womb he emerged from, wherever he emerged, was from Kansas?

 

[patient1]

How about Lee Iacocca. I,m sure he might just fill both those shoes. Remember him? A recent quote of his(Where have all the leaders Gone? ).

Of course I remember him. "Lead, follow, or get out of the way!"
He should have run years ago when he was young enough to do the job. I'd vote for him.

 

[Peregrinator]

Of course I remember him. "Lead, follow, or get out of the way!"
He should have run years ago when he was young enough to do the job. I'd vote for him.

Dad's comment on Iacocca:

He laid off thousands of people and then paid himself a million dollars. He saved the company by producing a product that no one would buy twice.

I can remember my dad asking people who had K-Cars what they thought. "I love it!" was the invariable reply. Dad would then ask, "Would you buy another one?" The answer was always no.

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

Of course I remember him. "Lead, follow, or get out of the way!"
He should have run years ago when he was young enough to do the job. I'd vote for him.

Someone paid him good money to shut up and go away.

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

My ideal President is honest. He is for the people, by the people, of the people.....no wait! That was something I dreamed.

 

[Peregrinator]

Let it be an American from the private sector, someone who hasn't spent a lifetime promoting the interests of the government, someone who will jealously secure the rights of our taxpaying citizens against the burgeoning administrative state, someone who will govern from within the enumerated powers in the Constitution. Someone who's name isn't Trump.

This is an interesting post, Vette. Why not the name Trump? Do you dislike The Donald, or are you wary of the backlash against him?

I'm on guard when I hear a conservative say "someone from the private sector," because while I value strong financial knowledge, I don't believe that it's the most essential thing, which seems to be conservative thinking (well, along with national defense, naturally).

Would you be as enthusiastic about, say, a political science professor? How about a climate scientist who works for a private university? Maybe a career Family Planning nurse? A former union president? Heck, I know a lot of environmental activists who see the government as the enemy...

I'm being a little facetious here, but only a little. I think what you really mean is "a business person." And I suspect that the guy who owns the local laundromat would fall short of your requirements. My guess is you're going to like someone who's been responsible for a large organization. Am I right?

 

[pornstarwannabe]

I'm curious. I know the person doesn't exist, but what would really make you enthusiastic? What are the issues and where would your choice stand on them? What policies would you like to see promised, assuming that a quality of the ideal candidate is that he or she would actually try to implement them once in office?

Female. Flat head. Fold back teach. 3 feet tall. Then I can rest my beer on her head as she blows me. Hail to the Chief and all that.

 

[Peregrinator]

Ideally:

1. A person who can laugh when the press uses the term "Veto Proof Legislation" - and then stamp that fucker "rejected" anyway - forcing congressmen to vote again.

2. A person who is not beholden to their party's theoretical philosophy and who is honestly willing to listen to both sides.

3. A person who understands budget math as: Revenue - Budgeted Items > 0.

4. A person who understands that "Protect and defend the Constitution" - means just that - not protect and defend parts and people of the nation that I like.

5. A person who speaks of preserving freedom rather than of social issues.

We are not going to see this person.

1. Someone who's not afraid to stand up to China and corporations, and bring jobs back to this country by any means necessary.

2. Someone who is not afraid to take unpopular stands that will benefit this country down the road (infrastructure building, for example, which would seem like a no brainer)

3. Someone who will not use crony-capitalism and will reject the culture of lobbyists penning laws.

4. Someone who realizes that wartime economy has not worked since WW2. For some reason politicians are under some sort of impression they should keep trying it.

5. Someone who will stand up for the interests of the people of this country.

6. Someone who realizes that the economy is part of Earth's eco-system, not the other way around.

Great or even good presidents have rarely been legislative leaders. So, a president's policies or legislative vision are the least of my concerns.

1. Give me a guy who is cool in a crisis, because he will be tested.

2. The most important quality may be his ability to manage the people and the information flow swirling around him. During the Cuban Missile Crisis, Kennedy brilliantly managed both the formal diplomatic exchanges as well as several back channels, all while preparing for an invasion of Cuba with the Joint Chiefs.

I want a president who, while his staff is unanimously yelling, "go, go, go," says, "There must be someone who thinks this is a shitty idea. If he's not on staff go find his ass and bring him in here ASAP."

3. I want a president who has sufficient courage of his convictions that he isn't afraid to acknowledge whatever weakness or controversy may be involved in his positions and actions. We already probably know them anyway. Too many presidents waste much more energy than necessary trying to save face on little shit. I will flat ass rally around a guy who has the guts to say "I don't know" or "I changed my mind."

4. I want a president who understands and is 100% committed to what America's domestic and international interest truly are and is willing to pay most any price to preserve and advance them. I want him to stand up and look us all in the eye and declare that those interests are not subject to compromise based on public opinion polls, negative reporting from the press, financial costs or casualty numbers from the field of battle.

That's my guy.

Thank you each for these posts. Very much the sort of thing I was hoping for.

My ideal candidate would be something like Dennis Kucinich, but not a vegetarian, nor quite so much of a pacifist.

Can you expand, please? What is it about Kucinich that you like?

 

[Peregrinator]

Fold back teach.

What?

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

My ideal President is honest. He is for the people, by the people, of the people.....no wait! That was something I dreamed.

Seewhat happens when you tell the truth? everyone thinks you are joking.

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

What?

Smooth entry for blowjobs so you do not spill your beer whilst voting.

 

[Peregrinator]

Smooth entry for blowjobs so you do not spill your beer whilst voting.

Oh, teeth. I honestly didn't know what you meant.

 

[Luk]

Female. Flat head. Fold back teach. 3 feet tall. Then I can rest my beer on her head as she blows me. Hail to the Chief and all that.

What?

Smooth entry for blowjobs so you do not spill your beer whilst voting.

Oh, teeth. I honestly didn't know what you meant.

So Johnny is pornstarwannabe?

Makes sense.