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WboroBaptM0134 said:
Its funny how you sort of live with excuses. "Well bad things happen, so I might as well enjoy them!" Rubbish! With the best intentions, hell may still arrive, but that doesn't mean one should give up!
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Wow. Way to put words into my mouth that I didn't say.

No, the point to my post is that just because your cause feels just (or even if it is just) does not mean that the way you go about it is just. I respect the desire to end non-consensual incest and statutory rape. However, I detest your insistence that someone who fantasizes about consensual incest between adults automatically approves of either of the first two.

It's like arguing that because someone writes a story in which a young woman has an orgy, they're also condoning rape victims who were gangbanged and/or forced into human trafficking. They're NOT the same, and the entire point to fantasy is to believe in something greater than the pain of reality.

Gee got any pics of your daughter?
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No. You?
 
LordOfHell said:
Wow. Way to put words into my mouth that I didn't say.

No, the point to my post is that just because your cause feels just (or even if it is just) does not mean that the way you go about it is just. I respect the desire to end non-consensual incest and statutory rape. However, I detest your insistence that someone who fantasizes about consensual incest between adults automatically approves of either of the first two.

It's like arguing that because someone writes a story in which a young woman has an orgy, they're also condoning rape victims who were gangbanged and/or forced into human trafficking. They're NOT the same, and the entire point to fantasy is to believe in something greater than the pain of reality.
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Honey, Its no good having a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Click the button and save yourself some stress.
 
LordOfHell said:
Wow. Way to put words into my mouth that I didn't say.

No, the point to my post is that just because your cause feels just (or even if it is just) does not mean that the way you go about it is just. I respect the desire to end non-consensual incest and statutory rape. However, I detest your insistence that someone who fantasizes about consensual incest between adults automatically approves of either of the first two.

It's like arguing that because someone writes a story in which a young woman has an orgy, they're also condoning rape victims who were gangbanged and/or forced into human trafficking. They're NOT the same, and the entire point to fantasy is to believe in something greater than the pain of reality.
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He's good at it.
Best just to ignore him, trolls come and go...
 
LordOfHell said:
To counter that:

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
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Do you believe that trying to do good, defending the innocent, protecting freedom, etc. are all paths to hell?
Should we just give up?
Do you believe that bad intentions are better?
 
LordOfHell said:
Wow. Way to put words into my mouth that I didn't say.

No, the point to my post is that just because your cause feels just (or even if it is just) does not mean that the way you go about it is just. I respect the desire to end non-consensual incest and statutory rape. However, I detest your insistence that someone who fantasizes about consensual incest between adults automatically approves of either of the first two.

It's like arguing that because someone writes a story in which a young woman has an orgy, they're also condoning rape victims who were gangbanged and/or forced into human trafficking. They're NOT the same, and the entire point to fantasy is to believe in something greater than the pain of reality.
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Its true theres a fine line like you say. And let me say I'm not condemning fantasy. The problem is that consensual incest fantasies generally have under tones of non consent and underage. As most of the stories on those threads do.

Can you assure me that in none of the material you put out is there ever a fantasy about under age or non consent? Also spreading fantasies of consenual incest can act as encouragement to children or adults to explore something which is peverse. Its not the same as a fantasy which say encourages group sex.
 
I am amazed how much one so called 'man of god' and therefore broadly considered 'a good man' can set people against each other.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has them. That doesn't mean we all have to have the SAME one. Everyone has different views on life, different takes on things. People need to accept that and go back to allowing each other to have those views and opinions.

They were here before our minister arrived, they will be here after he goes. Treat him with the contempt he deserves and stop bickering at each other. Life is too short.

And no I am not condoning ANYONES opinion, it is not my right to judge anyone, God will do that when we arrive at our destination. I am just tired of seeing everyone get stressed out.

Just MY opinion. I dont expect others to share it.
 
No apple pie filling?:eek:

You mean I've got to actually peel and stew the fuckers myself? What is this world coming to?...:cool:
 
bisolom said:
Do you believe that trying to do good, defending the innocent, protecting freedom, etc. are all paths to hell?
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For one, fighting against consensual incest is doing none of these things. In fact, it's hindering the freedom of two adults who possess the full ability to make their own decisions.

For two, as I said before. Having a just cause does not mean that you are making just action. For example, if my cause is to save your life, and I murder twelve innocent people to do it, then I committed an unjust act for a just cause.

Should we just give up?
Do you believe that bad intentions are better?
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Both of these questions are false dichotomies.

You cannot come to the conclusion that just because I say that good intentions are the road to hell that this means that bad intention, or no intention at all, is somehow better. For a dichotomy to be true, two conditions must exist:

1) There can ONLY be two results.

2) These results cannot exist at the same time.

Now, assuming that my intentions are good but my actions are bad, then that doesn't mean that I should change my intentions. It simply means that I should change my actions. This is the entire basis of justice, because justice means to do something good in as fair, equitable and mutually beneficial as possible, and not simply destroying one side just because you don't like it.
 
WboroBaptM0134 said:
You're obviously the kind of person that would sit by while your neighbors were being hurt. Ineffectual.
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I'm sorry...what? How do you get to that opinion?

This is what I call a "go to jail" conclusion...do not pass go, do not collect £200...miss out all the joining steps in between...

Seriously sunshine...check yourself:cool:
 
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