Gay, Bisexual or Straight?

[Nasty_Deeds]

In our society as it is today, if a man sucks another man’s cock, is he automatically considered to be gay or bisexual in every case?

Example: If a husband and wife as a fantasy wanted to experience a MMF sexual encounter, and as part of their fantasy, she wanted to see her husband suck another man’s cock to completion. And to fulfill his wife’s fantasy, the husband sucked another man’s cock to completion without any emotional or sexual attachment to the man: in our society, would the husband be thought of as gay, bisexual or straight.

In other words, are there certain circumstances in our society where a man could engage in homosexual sex, and still be considered straight?

 

[Corbal]

In our society as it is today, if a man sucks another man’s cock, is he automatically considered to be gay or bisexual in every case?

Example: If a husband and wife as a fantasy wanted to experience a MMF sexual encounter, and as part of their fantasy, she wanted to see her husband suck another man’s cock to completion. And to fulfill his wife’s fantasy, the husband sucked another man’s cock to completion without any emotional or sexual attachment to the man: in our society, would the husband be thought of as gay, bisexual or straight.

In other words, are there certain circumstances in our society where a man could engage in homosexual sex, and still be considered straight?

I think so. I mean, he did it for the pleasure of his wife, not necessarily for the pleasure of the man. Ultimately, he's a straight male.....but then again, it's rare to find a completely straight male to do such a thing.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Nope. Society would consider him gay, or bi forever more, even if he never touched another man the rest of his life.

I would consider him straight, personally-- but our society has a "One drop" rule about men, in much the way we believed that one drop of "black blood" made someone "colored".

So, YOU have to decide for yourself what YOU are, make that statement, and be prepared to argue it.

 

[schaum_m]

He is bisexual. He willingly had sex with woman and a man.

 

[Cycle Tom]

He is bisexual. He willingly had sex with woman and a man.

At the same time?

 

[Safe_Bet]

Did he enjoy doing it?

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

Did he enjoy doing it?

That is the bottom line. If the male in question derived no satisfaction from the act, he is hetero. OTOH, if he enjoyed himself he would be bi or at least heteroflexible.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

Did he enjoy doing it?

In the context of my example, he enjoyed pleasing his wife; the man he sucked would be more compared to an object that he used to please his wife.

In this husband/wife playtime, the husband’s enjoyment came from serving his wife as she commanded, and he would have no feelings toward the man he sucked, one way or the other.

 

[Stella_Omega]

What a great husband!

 

[sfla]

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So, YOU have to decide for yourself what YOU are, make that statement, and be prepared to argue it.

I agree. Though, lately, I have not been arguing it all. If someone doesn't accept my identity, why bother with them at all?

 

[dluvstoread]

...bi-sexual

In my opinion he would be bi-sexual. My wife and I have this fantasy....although I have an attraction to another man's cock I still love having sex with my wife.....and I always love to look at, taste and smell a woman's pussy.....so I would consider myself bi-curious.....and after we have our first experience with another man and I have another man's cock in my mouth for the first time then I would consider myself bi-sexual......but then again that is just my view.......whether society considers me correct or not does not really matter. I don't live by what society thinks....and society is not always correct, it's just the popular belief.

 

[Etoile]

In the context of my example, he enjoyed pleasing his wife; the man he sucked would be more compared to an object that he used to please his wife.

In this husband/wife playtime, the husband’s enjoyment came from serving his wife as she commanded, and he would have no feelings toward the man he sucked, one way or the other.

This qualification solidifies my belief that he is still heterosexual.

 

[downforce]

I identify as bisexual for the simple fact that I enjoy having sex with men, but I have relationships with women.

The way I see it, just one time, especially when it's a fantasy with the wife, is just that...fulfilling a fantasy. Now if that guy decided that he wants to actively pursue sex with men, either by himself or with his wife involved, that could be considered bisexual.

I've always looked at it as if you like sex with men, you're bisexual. To me, that doesn't include having emotional attachments/relationships with men.

 

[flyHiGuy]

I've always looked at it as if you like sex with men, you're bisexual. To me, that doesn't include having emotional attachments/relationships with men.[/QUOTE][/I

]Yes, I think that is an accurate statement. I actually like oral sex with another man but I don't want to kiss them or anything like that - and no emotional attachment please. I LOVE women, but I guess I am actually a bisexual. But I'll draw a line here... I would NEVER have oral sex with a guy when I am with a women.... but that's just me.

 

[SilkyDave]

Google the "flex test" compiled by James Hicks, it provides a variety of sexual types, very enlightening

 

[Stella_Omega]

Google the "flex test" compiled by James Hicks, it provides a variety of sexual types, very enlightening

http://flexuality.wordpress.com/take-the-test/

Thanks, I had never heard of the guy before this. Very well thought out system!

I don't agree with his terminology for one category; what I and every other gender issued person I know calls "genderqueer" or "genderfluid" he's calling "metamorphic." I left him a not saying that it makes me think of geology, not my body!

And he's missing one; "homoflexible." Some people are really-truly gay first, but will mess around with someone of the opposite sex once in a rare while.

 

[Etoile]

There is a term "biamorous" that indicates loving men and women as opposed to just fucking them, but it's not as common as "bisexual" and it might confuse people.

Gonna try that test now...

 

[Stella_Omega]

There is a term "biamorous" that indicates loving men and women as opposed to just fucking them, but it's not as common as "bisexual" and it might confuse people.

Gonna try that test now...

I've been going through his categories and I'm not as impressed as I was on first glance.

I could write essays on each one, refining and refuting! But-- why should I do his work for him

I'll be interested to see what you make of them..

 

[Etoile]

Well, I'm disappointed that the results aren't immediate!

I don't like how he repurposes words. Polyamorous doesn't mean biamorous just because he wants it to!

 

[Stella_Omega]

Well, I'm disappointed that the results aren't immediate!

I don't like how he repurposes words. Polyamorous doesn't mean biamorous just because he wants it to!

And WTF is metamorphic?

 

[Etoile]

And WTF is metamorphic?

Well, in terms of rocks, I think it refers to being in a state of change...but...uh...that's rocks...

 

[Stella_Omega]

Well, in terms of rocks, I think it refers to being in a state of change...but...uh...that's rocks...

I suggested to him that his term wasn't going to be real popular with those people-- who have already labeled themselves, gender queer, gender fluid, or transgendered. Metamorphic is a bit insulting, having so little reference to human conditions.

It's very difficult to do anthropological studies of groups of people who are already doing anthro on themselves.

 

[liteman7]

intriguing

Still, I found the test entertaining and titillating as I considered my proclivities.

 

[sfla]

Why I would do that test, and not something amusing on OK Cupid, I don't quite know...

 

[haurni]

In this husband/wife playtime, the husband’s enjoyment came from serving his wife as she commanded, and he would have no feelings toward the man he sucked, one way or the other.

This qualification solidifies my belief that he is still heterosexual.

I concur. I'm thinking of situations (e.g. prisons) in which homosexual activity occurs but at least some of the participants neither self-identify nor are identified by others as gay. That the partner is same-sex is due to situational factors rather than sexual preference (orientation).

And WTF is metamorphic?

"Pertaining to or characterized by change of form", according to dictionary.com, as from one form of rock to another, or from caterpillar to butterfly. Implicit in this is that it's a one-way street, though I think it's being used simply to indicate mutability, adaptability or possibly a lack of strong preference. Certainly biamorous or bisexual seems more appropriate in that it inherently suggests flexibility.