Which GB members would you not want teaching your children?

i would go on an AJ benefits of home schooling rant if Jenn was an educator.

I'll give some less than obvious--for me--choices for who I'd be pleased as punch to have teach my children.

Col. Hogan
kbate
rosco
wok
the chilly willy guy, as best as i can tell
byron

There are plenty others, but none of those would be considered the usual suspects for me.
I would be okay with this list, and I think it's really good, except for the "chilly willy" guy, because I don't know who the hell that is.

Jesus... teaching grubs. It's just never a future I'd imagined for myself.
 
I do not know if I qualify for teaching kids, but thanks all the same.

As for a list, it is very small, but the lists including Byron, kbate, cjh and hogan top my list.
Thanks. You'd be on mine, too. As would Kbate, CJH, and Col. Hogan.

I'd include (and this might seem odd, but cut me some slack) Ishmael, Pookie, Heretic, and Sandia.

(Sadly, Sandia's gone. He did a great job of bringing me up to speed about the Battle of Kursk, though. I still prevailed in the argument, but it was by chance. I could have just as easily been wrong.)
 
if i were to put together a group of teachers, they'd include hobbit, bronze, dolf, sean, byron, zumi, recidiva, phelia, English Lady, Wok, kybele and St Pete and Perg and torchthebitch - all for their innate qualities and for exposure to differing pov's.

that covers arts, crafts and self-defense (and bombmaking), languages and literature, cookery and first aid, metal work and techie techie stuff, politics and economics, media studies and (i hope) mathematics/geography. and tolerance. (that may take a little work...)

but wouldn't school be fun!
That's a good list. I'd let my kid go to that school, as long as the teachers were never in the same room at the same time.
 
I would be okay with this list, and I think it's really good, except for the "chilly willy" guy, because I don't know who the hell that is.

Jesus... teaching grubs. It's just never a future I'd imagined for myself.

Do you live in a hole? He's on here all the time and lately he makes a good whipping post for people who like to put their own spin on posts.
 
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I am. In fact, there's quite a push by some notable people for that as well.

well good luck with that. me, I think if black people choose to reappropriate the word, it's up to them. As a white person I have no fucking right to say what they should or should not call themselves. further I can see that in reappropriating, they steal the power of the word from the white hegemony.


I don't know one gay person who has reappropriated the word "queer". The ones I know still find it quite distasteful. "Krips" and "spazes" are out-of-date slang; no one uses those for disabled people any longer. And I've never heard disabled people talk about each other using them. .
you have never heard of queer theory? never heard of Pat Califia?

and I'm not talking about norms using the krip and spaz as descriptors of disabled people, I'm talking about disabled people reappropriating a denigrating terms. like black people have done with the word nigger.

Just because you don't hang about with disabled activists or people pushing norm boundaries doesn't mean it doesn't exist. if language creates power, then taking the language of the oppressors then dilutes their discursive power.

you should hang around with more radical people.
 
I don’t know about teaching but as far as bright, knowledgeable and emotionally mature, by observation I would say, in no particular order:

Recidiva
Byron
Wok
Perg
Bronzeage
Hogan
King O
 
Do you live in a hole? He's on here all the time and lately he makes a good whipping post for people who like to put their own spin on posts.

Telling bold-faced lies over and over about me "spinning" posts won't make it true. Ask CIH.

and I'm not talking about norms using the krip and spaz as descriptors of disabled people, I'm talking about disabled people reappropriating a denigrating terms. like black people have done with the word nigger.

Yeah - the disabled really haven't done that. At least, not in the States.

if language creates power, then taking the language of the oppressors then dilutes their discursive power.

If the language of the oppressors is adopted by the oppressed, the oppressors win. It's the best-case scenario for them: they have the oppressed degrading themselves. That's the whole point of successfully implementing a universally-accepted mentality of subservience: get the subordinates to put themselves down and accept their condition. Fooling them (and others, apparently) into thinking they've robbed the words of their power is an even greater victory for them.

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As a white person I have no fucking right to say what they should or should not call themselves.

I think it's perfectly fine to point out and recognize words that cannot be divorced from their derogatory origins, no matter what race one is. And I'd like to think we've moved past race as dictating what causes one is allowed or not allowed to take up.

I guess that makes me a little more "radical" than these folks you speak of. Oh well - they'll catch up someday. :cool:
 
Telling bold-faced lies over and over about me "spinning" posts won't make it true. Ask CIH.



Yeah - the disabled really haven't done that. At least, not in the States.



If the language of the oppressors is adopted by the oppressed, the oppressors win. It's the best-case scenario for them: they have the oppressed degrading themselves. That's the whole point of successfully implementing a universally-accepted mentality of subservience: get the subordinates to put themselves down and accept their condition. Fooling them (and others, apparently) into thinking they've robbed the words of their power is an even greater victory for them.



I think it's perfectly fine to point out and recognize words that cannot be divorced from their derogatory origins, no matter what race one is. And I'd like to think we've moved past race as dictating what causes one is allowed or not allowed to take up.

I guess that makes me a little more "radical" than these folks you speak of. Oh well - they'll catch up someday. :cool:
you confuse 'adopted' with 'reappropriated'. adopted was 50 years ago black people referring to each other as niggers because that was the term they were socialised with as a hangover from slavery. you think young black people don't know about slavery and the way nigger was used oppressively? you really credit them with that little intelligence?

these kids know about how language is used in derogatory ways and they take that power away from the words by utilising it themselves. make no mistake. this is not to say that some fucker like ishy or vet calling someone a nigger is the same, it's not.

but you are way behind. language has shifted and moved on. it's not in our hands now.
 
If the language of the oppressors is adopted by the oppressed, the oppressors win. It's the best-case scenario for them: they have the oppressed degrading themselves. That's the whole point of successfully implementing a universally-accepted mentality of subservience: get the subordinates to put themselves down and accept their condition. Fooling them (and others, apparently) into thinking they've robbed the words of their power is an even greater victory for them.

This.

The whole "re-appropriation" thing (as far as the n-word is concerned, I can't speak on being gay or physically/mentally disabled and the negative-born social words from their condition) is a smokescreen for being lazy, inconsiderate and uncouth. It's said as hipster-entitled fashion for those whom it wasn't intended for and it's said as a 200+ year-old ingrained mnemonic towards the collective social detriment for those whom it was intended for.

Its contemporary ubiquitous usage, especially amongst the impressionable youth who are more reflector aggregates* than the grown adults who consider their words deliberately, is more insidious than just dismissing it as some natural etymological social entropy of human vocabulary towards a "positive" or "neutral" meaning. The word has power and it is doing exactly what it was created to do.

* this is not taking away their individual personality or intelligence. But it's different to describe it under a clinical social microscope versus having to actually live with it every day and having to hear it, knowing that educated people who care and have pride do not talk to and about each other this way.
 
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