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bhndblueyes88
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This conversation has become very very derailed 
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This conversation has become very very derailed
And with nary an apology to the original question, either. Pity.
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Let's all get nasty in the good manners thread.
BDSM folk, such a nasty bunch.
BDSM folk, such a nasty bunch.
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Let's all get nasty in the good manners thread.
*sucker punches YC*
Fight! Fight! Fight!
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*gets nasty with Kay*
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He with the least stitches in the end wins.
Hijack, hijack, hijack....as if anyone cares anymore.
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He with the least stitches in the end wins.
Damn, that is kinky. But I'll leave you in stitches.
Pre existing don't count... and I get to do the suturing.
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good fucking shitstorm.
I wonder why those who are grieving the days when they could lead the genteel existence of the stay at home mom and the breadwinner dad aren't *doing* it?
Why didn't you get married as soon as your education was completed, have babies and be a homemaker? Don't say you haven't found the right man. Women didn't get the *right* man back then, they got the man their dad decided they should marry.
Not to mention, the whole stay at home mom thing - well, it's a fairly modern invention. Working class women (and don't kid yourself that you'd be the upper class...that's like playing the lottery) worked their assess off and then some. And the kids too...lest we forget the factories of the 1800's filled with moms and kids...or perhaps the cottage industries of the 16 and 1700's - or serfdom and women doing pretty much everything while the men were off at the crusades.
Guess what people? The 50's was a decade of fucking men traumatized by their experiences in WWII trying to make happyflowerkittyland and the finding a way to make women think staying at home was the ideal way of life because the men needed thier jobs back.
And yeah, any idiot can keep a kid from chocking on the cat food; the hard part about parenting is keeping at without going stark staring mad and getting those small creatures capable enough so you can take a piss without an audience.
Fuck, i'm grumpy now.
I wonder why those who are grieving the days when they could lead the genteel existence of the stay at home mom and the breadwinner dad aren't *doing* it?
Why didn't you get married as soon as your education was completed, have babies and be a homemaker? Don't say you haven't found the right man. Women didn't get the *right* man back then, they got the man their dad decided they should marry.
Not to mention, the whole stay at home mom thing - well, it's a fairly modern invention. Working class women (and don't kid yourself that you'd be the upper class...that's like playing the lottery) worked their assess off and then some. And the kids too...lest we forget the factories of the 1800's filled with moms and kids...or perhaps the cottage industries of the 16 and 1700's - or serfdom and women doing pretty much everything while the men were off at the crusades.
Guess what people? The 50's was a decade of fucking men traumatized by their experiences in WWII trying to make happyflowerkittyland and the finding a way to make women think staying at home was the ideal way of life because the men needed thier jobs back.
And yeah, any idiot can keep a kid from chocking on the cat food; the hard part about parenting is keeping at without going stark staring mad and getting those small creatures capable enough so you can take a piss without an audience.
Fuck, i'm grumpy now.
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Regardless of any mispellings or grammatical errors, sb2009-- you've hit the nail on the head.
Thank you.
sb2009-- you've hit the nail on the head. Thank you.
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Damn, that is kinky. But I'll leave you in stitches.
Pre existing don't count... and I get to do the suturing.
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HA! Nice one.
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Regardless of any mispellings or grammatical errors,
Thank you.
Thank you Stella...I totally butchered that, but I'm glad my point came across to someone.
As I'm typing this one of my freak children is spoon feeding a cat while wearing a stretched out army t-shirt and looking like a street urchin. I am in the "crap job" category of parenting today.
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I got it. you crystalised what I spent 30 posts trying to say.
is the kid getting mauled by the cat or eating its shit? no? then chill. you are doing fine.
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my in laws were and still are horrified at my casual approach to housework. they would wipe everything they touched if they deigned to visit, with antibac wipes. funny think is my kids are as strong as horses and their little precious is a constant stream of allergies, infections and unspecified 'reactions'. I know they think I'm shite parent because I didn't bleach the floor three times a day (or even once a week), but my kids are happy, healthy and fairly normal.
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You're probably a better parent in the end for the exposure. Yes, it's a bit of a "risk" to expose your kids to pathogens, but the thing about the immune system is that we have no innate responses to specific pathogens and what innate immunity we have is grossly ill-equipped to deal with large-scale and specific invasion. Once a child is older and the ability of the immune system to adapt has decreased, these immune deficits become downright dangerous.
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I will never understand why people insist on bringing up the crusades or serfs or Queen Victoria in a discussion like this. Pardon me if this sounds flippant, but did they even have restaurants back then? I can't compare modern vs. medieval dating mores, because I have no fucking idea as to medieval social customs.
Nor do I care. I mean, I might find it mildly interesting if you mention centuries-old courting rituals, but as a general rule I don't give a fuck.
This debate on shifting *modern* American social mores is one I've been having for roughly 40 years. I was born in '58, and entered awareness of the world right smack in the middle of the maelstrom.
Guess what? Times really have changed - and dramatically so. My dad went to work, my mom stayed home, and this was true for every kid in our middle class neighborhood. (And by the way my mom picked the man she married.) All that holds true for the majority of my peer group in college, and the majority of folks my age whom I've known since.
Not that staying at home equalled a "genteel existence," in the pampered sense of that word. My mother worked hard, and always has. Raised us, kept the house, contributed to her community through countless hours of volunteer work.
It's true that talking solely about middle America ignores the great swath of lower income folks, and I agree that ignoring those folks is wrong - not just as a matter of historical accuracy, but as an ethical matter, too.
But you can't ignore middle America, either. Or brush over the realities of it, while making totally irrelevant comparisons to life with the Vikings or Huns.
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Jeez, who let in the Vikings and the Huns? I could swear this started out as a discussion of manners and nowhere in my reading of history can I find a reason to draw on Viking or Hun practices to elucidate a discussion of modern manners.
Or maybe my reading comprehension has slipped badly in my dotage.
Or maybe my reading comprehension has slipped badly in my dotage.
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my point was that ONE DECADE is being held as some golden standard of they way things are supposed to be. One span of ten or so years, and it's the gold standard of all that is right and proper.
I'll be so glad when this greatest generation is too old to blow hard.
I'll be so glad when this greatest generation is too old to blow hard.
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Who is holding the 50s up as the golden standard of all that is right and proper?
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I know I'm off on a tangent of epic proportions, but so is everyone else. It started with mourning the loss of gentler days when women were cared for and how poor men today are lambasted for not getting consent for various manly things they should just be able to do. It annoyed me to no end for some god awful reason, who knows, I'm a cranky cunt who had to spend way too much money on sports equipment today.
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well, i've never understood the love affair some seem to have with the 1950s either, as it was an especially sucky time for a good deal of america. modern mores and gender roles get me kinda sad and weepy too, no doubt. but i certainly wouldn't look back to the 1950s as some golden era.
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