TSA pat downs and body scans

[sr71plt]

The terrible thing is that it is all unnecessary. The TSA uses horridly inefficient screening tactics, but that is the way of a bureaucracy.

The Israelis, shake their heads at "Those Stupid Americans" and they are correct.

Obama should appoint a new TSA head to change tactics and establish measurable goals. Continuing the retched excess of poor tactics is counter productive.

The worst security experiences I've had were in the airport in Tel Aviv. I'd routinely have to have someone from the embassy come to expeditite my coming and going there--even though I had a diplomatic passport and was there to consult with the Mossad. It's the only place I've been taken off line and interrogated. The Israelis are scary.

I don't disagree with your comments on the TSA tactics (anyone else notice how Hillary has distanced herself from what they're doing by giving it the horse laugh on TV and saying "who would want to go through such scans?"), but this groundswell effort to slow down the security process at airports over the Thanksgiving travel holiday just illustrates the American public at their ultimate spoiled brat level.

It's what is at the moment. Deal with it and minimize the effect until it can be worked out.

Happily I could use a car to get to Nags Head for my Thanksgiving week.

 

[Stella_Omega]

The terrible thing is that it is all unnecessary. The TSA uses horridly inefficient screening tactics, but that is the way of a bureaucracy.

The Israelis, shake their heads at "Those Stupid Americans" and they are correct.

Obama should appoint a new TSA head to change tactics and establish measurable goals. Continuing the retched excess of poor tactics is counter productive.

But it provides lots of bread and circus action.

 

[JackLuis]

The worst security experiences I've had were in the airport in Tel Aviv. I'd routinely have to have someone from the embassy come to expeditite my coming and going there--even though I had a diplomatic passport and was there to consult with the Mossad. It's the only place I've been taken off line and interrogated. The Israelis are scary.

I don't disagree with your comments on the TSA tactics (anyone else notice how Hillary has distanced herself from what they're doing by giving it the horse laugh on TV and saying "who would want to go through such scans?"), but this groundswell effort to slow down the security process at airports over the Thanksgiving travel holiday just illustrates the American public at their ultimate spoiled brat level.

It's what is at the moment. Deal with it and minimize the effect until it can be worked out.

Happily I could use a car to get to Nags Head for my Thanksgiving week.

With a Dip Passport, going to Mossad, yep the other side of the "Intel World" wanted to know who and what you were. They don't just have one side.

no system is fool proof as Here.

http://wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/airplanedog.jpg

"Passenger Finds Gun Clip On Plane: The System Works!"​

It must be serendipity?

 

[3113]

Well, the Japanese think it's funny.

 

[Austin8]

Well, the Japanese think it's funny.

That was Great 3! reminded me of an old Benny Hill skit

Wasn't today National Opt Out Day?

 

[DG Hear]

Just received this from a Friend:


New TSA (Transportation Safety Administration) Slogans

Ø Can't see London, can't see France, unless we see your underpants.

Ø Grope discounts available.

Ø If we did our job any better, we'd have to buy you dinner first.

Ø Only we know if Lady Gaga is really a lady.

Ø Don't worry, my hands are still warm from the last guy.

Ø Throw a few back at the airport Chili's and you won't even notice.

Ø Wanna fly? Drop your fly.

Ø We've handled more balls than Barney Frank

Ø We are now free to move about your pants

Ø We rub you the wrong way, so you can be on your way.

Ø It's not a grope. It's a freedom pat.

Ø When in doubt, we make you whip it out.

Ø TSA: Touchin', Squeezin', Arrestin'

Ø You were a virgin.

Ø We handle more packages than the USPS Ø The TSA isn't silly, they just want to inspect your willy

Ø Stroke of the hand, law of the land

Ø No Shirt, No Shoes, No Problem

Ø Let your fingers do the Walking

Ø Cough

Ø Reach out and touch someone

Ø Can you feel me now?

Ø When we're done with you, you'll need a cigarette.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Ø Cough

Shouldn't that be;

"Turn your head and cough"?

At least the jokes are funny this time.

 

[SlickTony]

I just wish I'd been groped the last time I flew, instead of the bag checker making me toss my brand new bottle of Aveeno moisturizer with lavender, chamomile and ylang ylang.

Bummer.

Ha! You think it got tossed? I know someone who was told the same thing about some expensive perfume she'd bought in the duty-free shop. Instead of putting the (still sealed, unopened) perfume in the trash bin (where it would have been collected later on) she gave it to a random woman on the housekeeping staff. The TSA munchkin was so furious, my friend thought she was going to end up getting arrested!

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Ha! You think it got tossed? I know someone who was told the same thing about some expensive perfume she'd bought in the duty-free shop. Instead of putting the (still sealed, unopened) perfume in the trash bin (where it would have been collected later on) she gave it to a random woman on the housekeeping staff. The TSA munchkin was so furious, my friend thought she was going to end up getting arrested!

Thieves and lowlifes all of them!

 

[SlickTony]

Thieves and lowlifes all of them!

Well, maybe not all of them, but a good many. People often become venal with the acquisition of a little power.

In Iran, during the late 70s and early 80s, when it had become obvious that the revolution had irredeemably soured because the mullahs had hijacked it, the upper middle class and professional classes started to flee the place in droves--that, of course, was before the government realized what was happening and clamped down on travel.

But even before that, motivations for much of the revolution had become clear. A couple was going through the exit process, when the beady eye of a customs official fell upon the man's expensive gold watch. "No gold is to leave Iran," he told them, and demanded the watch.

The man stripped off the gold watch and crushed it underfoot, then handed it to the official. "We are the gold that's leaving Iran," he said.

That said, I would also like to comment that there is nothing "spoiled brat" about objecting to the idea that you must allow strangers to see you naked in order to get on an airplane. I think that what bothers most people is that this business is just the latest turn in a progressive ratcheting-up of humiliating and useless restrictions. You wonder, what's next?

 

[sr71plt]

Thieves and lowlifes all of them!

Typically pea-brained. Right out of the "know nothing" wing of America, where everyone is dishonest except for the poster. Most people in such jobs are probably far above average on the honesty scale--they are checked and scrutinized far more than the average worker.

God, I'd hate to have the depressing world views you have.

 

[wet_special]

The worst security experiences I've had were in the airport in Tel Aviv. I'd routinely have to have someone from the embassy come to expeditite my coming and going there--even though I had a diplomatic passport and was there to consult with the Mossad. It's the only place I've been taken off line and interrogated. The Israelis are scary.

It's probably because of the dim bulb look in your eyes or your penchant for drooling, combined with your diplomatic credentials, that may have caused them to flag you.. They don't want to allow the terrorists to plant a bomb in your bags or on your person and then get waved through because of your passport. There's lots of reasons you might get flagged.

 

[sr71plt]

It's probably because of the dim bulb look in your eyes or your penchant for drooling, combined with your diplomatic credentials, that may have caused them to flag you.. They don't want to allow the terrorists to plant a bomb in your bags or on your person and then get waved through because of your passport. There's lots of reasons you might get flagged.

That's cute, but it's more a case of the various parts of the Israeli government playing hardball with other parts of the Israeli government. We have the same thing going on in the U.S. government.

You sound so . . . you know, wounded.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Well, maybe not all of them, but a good many. People often become venal with the acquisition of a little power.

In Iran, during the late 70s and early 80s, when it had become obvious that the revolution had irredeemably soured because the mullahs had hijacked it, the upper middle class and professional classes started to flee the place in droves--that, of course, was before the government realized what was happening and clamped down on travel.

But even before that, motivations for much of the revolution had become clear. A couple was going through the exit process, when the beady eye of a customs official fell upon the man's expensive gold watch. "No gold is to leave Iran," he told them, and demanded the watch.

The man stripped off the gold watch and crushed it underfoot, then handed it to the official. "We are the gold that's leaving Iran," he said.

That said, I would also like to comment that there is nothing "spoiled brat" about objecting to the idea that you must allow strangers to see you naked in order to get on an airplane. I think that what bothers most people is that this business is just the latest turn in a progressive ratcheting-up of humiliating and useless restrictions. You wonder, what's next?

Whats next is the TSA wants to see whats under your pad.

 

[wet_special]

That's cute, but it's more a case of the various parts of the Israeli government playing hardball with other parts of the Israeli government. We have the same thing going on in the U.S. government.

You sound so . . . you know, wounded.

You may be right, on all three counts. I don't know why I was grinning so hard when I read your last line though, I must not be as butthurt as you might have sussed. But I rather point to the quote from Slicktony.

People want security on airplanes. But many think that the TSA is a joke. The pat down and the scanners are both an unreasonable, intrusive elevation of the security pageant. All it does is de-sensitize us to the intrusive police state. We should condemn it, and resist it!! And joke about it Or it will only get worse!

http://crockettlives.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/tsa-buffoons.jpg?w=504&h=365

 

[sr71plt]

Small-minded people usually think everyone else other then them are jokes and don't have real jobs and are dishonest in the jobs they do.

It's all part of the scapegoating of totally self-centered people who can't see the big, complex picture and assume they can do everything better than everyone else--even thought they actually do practically nothing at all.

Just because that's the way they choose to look at the world doesn't make it so, though.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Typically pea-brained. Right out of the "know nothing" wing of America, where everyone is dishonest except for the poster. Most people in such jobs are probably far above average on the honesty scale--they are checked and scrutinized far more than the average worker.

God, I'd hate to have the depressing world views you have.

Hey dickhead try reading the post...I neither said the world was dishonest nor did I say I wasn't. Like the usual crap you spout you just jump to the conclusions you want. Keep jumping asshole.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

It's probably because of the dim bulb look in your eyes or your penchant for drooling, combined with your diplomatic credentials, that may have caused them to flag you.. They don't want to allow the terrorists to plant a bomb in your bags or on your person and then get waved through because of your passport. There's lots of reasons you might get flagged.

The saw him for what he was...a pompous asshole with credentials who thought he was better than them. To bad they didn't do a full cavity search on him

 

[sr71plt]

Guess I hit a little too close to home with dear old Zeb.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Guess I hit a little too close to home with dear old Zeb.

Not at all...I just happen to see you for what you are...a dickhead.

 

[sr71plt]

There, there, pat, pat. You'll grown up one of these days, Zeb.

Or not--who cares?

 

[wet_special]

Guess I hit a little too close to home with dear old Zeb.

Not at all...I just happen to see you for what you are...a dickhead.

Don't worry, s7splat is exactly what you say - a dickhead who conveniently arrives at his conclusions unhindered by opposing facts and logic.

 

[sr71plt]

That's MR. Dickhead to you two.

Just how old are the pair of you?

 

[Zeb_Carter]

That's MR. Dickhead to you two.

Just how old are the pair of you?

Probably older than you, two children, seven grandchildren...you guess asshole.

ETA: Oh, I didn't marry until I was 22, that should give you a gauge. Also neither child married until they were in their 20's.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Second childhood, then.