OBAMANOMICS: Had Enough Yet?

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/New-claims-for-unemployment-apf-3180551258.html?x=0&.v=1

484,000 new unemployment claims last week.

 

[squarejohn]

All the bad news can turn on a dime. The president (not this one), only has to make a policy speech that will favor low, low taxes all around. The next president will probably do so.

The current president's policy is to do everything possible to destroy the US economy. He is simply carrying out his marching orders.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The solution is very simple. Put the country back to work as happened in World War 2.

Obama coulda invested serious money in alternative energy techology creation; he coulda sent every kid in America to college or tech school; he coulda created no interest loans to help people keep their homes and cars; he coulda replaced every high mileage police car, ambulance, and fire truck in America; and what he did was fund a few part-time census workers. He pissed away a golden opportunity to do great deeds.

 

[xssve]

The solution is very simple. Put the country back to work as happened in World War 2.

Obama coulda invested serious money in alternative energy techology creation; he coulda sent every kid in America to college or tech school; he coulda created no interest loans to help people keep their homes and cars; he coulda replaced every high mileage police car, ambulance, and fire truck in America; and what he did was fund a few part-time census workers. He pissed away a golden opportunity to do great deeds.

So now you're a socialist?

 

[sr71plt]

I can only shudder at the thought of how much worse it would be if the Republicans, who got us into this mess and were so ineptly working it into the ground, had retained the administration. So, no, relatively speaking, I haven't had enough of Obamanomics yet.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

So now you're a socialist?

And I'm not Shamu cuz I bathe every Saturday night. Or Rip van Winkle cuz I sleep every night.

 

[sr71plt]

And I'm not Shamu cuz I bathe every Saturday night. Or Rip van Winkle cuz I sleep every night.

Not responsive to the question. Just another inept slide away from being cornered.

 

[squarejohn]

I can only shudder at the thought of how much worse it would be if the Republicans, who got us into this mess and were so ineptly working it into the ground, had retained the administration. So, no, relatively speaking, I haven't had enough of Obamanomics yet.

The republicans have been out of power for about eighteen months. The average recession lasted ten months. The longest previous recession lasted sixteen months.

I agree the recession started with the republicans, but it should have ended by now.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Pelosi and Reid ran Congress during 2007 and 2008; what in fuck were they doing while Dubya ran wild?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Not responsive to the question. Just another inept slide away from being cornered.

Come up with better analogies.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Dem-Yarmuth-critical-of-White-apf-1360116637.html?x=0&.v=1
EVEN THE DEMOCRATS ARE PISSED.

 

[sr71plt]

Come up with better analogies.

A., it wasn't me you were responding to. B., your response showed that you had none.

 

[sr71plt]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Dem-Yarmuth-critical-of-White-apf-1360116637.html?x=0&.v=1
EVEN THE DEMOCRATS ARE PISSED.

I'm slightly pissed too. Because the Obama administration has been too accommodating to those who have no intention of being accommodated.

 

[Huckleman2000]

The republicans have been out of power for about eighteen months. The average recession lasted ten months. The longest previous recession lasted sixteen months.

I agree the recession started with the republicans, but it should have ended by now.

Although they haven't officially declared it yet, data points to the recession having ended in mid-2009. That would still make it the worst since the early 1930s.

 

[Dragonlipz]

The republicans have been out of power for about eighteen months. The average recession lasted ten months. The longest previous recession lasted sixteen months.

I agree the recession started with the republicans, but it should have ended by now.

The average recession lasts two and a half years, what kind of bullshit have you been smoking? Try turning off Cluster FUX and reading something substantive.....think for a change.....
don't strain yerself..........................

 

[Dragonlipz]

All the bad news can turn on a dime. The president (not this one), only has to make a policy speech that will favor low, low taxes all around. The next president will probably do so.

The current president's policy is to do everything possible to destroy the US economy. He is simply carrying out his marching orders.

If that bullshit about low taxes were true, we'd be swimming in money because taxes for those who make some money (over 400, 000) have never been lower.......
So try singing that song somewhere where no one has heard it......
Lower taxes for the rich that results in more money for everyone is a Reagan fairy tale and if you're still gullible enough to believe it (despite the stagnation of the middle class for the past 30 years - 22 of which have been in Republican majorities!) then maybe you'll buy some land in Florida from me.........

 

[Boxlicker101]

Although they haven't officially declared it yet, data points to the recession having ended in mid-2009. That would still make it the worst since the early 1930s.

How on Earth can anybody say the recession has ended? Things aren't improved enough to say that. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gNiyJ905Ho0Ur96V2TQhsBX19lGwD9HI5AL80

Perhaps the WSJ is just looking at the stock market, but I find that hard to believe.

 

[Boxlicker101]

The average recession lasts two and a half years, what kind of bullshit have you been smoking? Try turning off Cluster FUX and reading something substantive.....think for a change.....
don't strain yerself..........................

Where on Earth did you get that time period? According to the NBER, the contraction part of the business cycle has lasted an average of ten months over the last 65 years. http://www.nber.org/cycles.html

 

[nerk]

.....think for a change.....
don't strain yerself..........................

well which is it, young feller?
you want I should think for a change, or not strain myself?

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/raising_arizona_goodman2.jpg

 

[Dragonlipz]

well which is it, young feller?
you want I should think for a change, or not strain myself?

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/raising_arizona_goodman2.jpg

In your case, both.....

 

[Dragonlipz]

Where on Earth did you get that time period? According to the NBER, the contraction part of the business cycle has lasted an average of ten months over the last 65 years. http://www.nber.org/cycles.html

Get some real data not that crap sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce.....they'd like YOU to believe everything they spew....you obviously do.....when you read the data, count the months, don't take their word for it.....
Achievement is much more satisfying if you do it yourself.........................

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101

Where on Earth did you get that time period? According to the NBER, the contraction part of the business cycle has lasted an average of ten months over the last 65 years. http://www.nber.org/cycles.html

Get some real data not that crap sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce.....they'd like YOU to believe everything they spew....you obviously do.....when you read the data, count the months, don't take their word for it.....
Achievement is much more satisfying if you do it yourself.........................

So, I repeat: Where did you get your figures from? I don't have a lot of faith in government statistyics, but the ones I cited are data they can determine from known facts, and after they happen.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Although they haven't officially declared it yet, data points to the recession having ended in mid-2009. That would still make it the worst since the early 1930s.

Lets see...since Obama took office more than 300,000 homes per month are foreclosed, and every week an average of 463,000 new unemployment claims are filed. WELCOME TO THE RECOVERY!

 

[amicus]

]The solution is very simple. Put the country back to work as happened in World War 2.

Obama coulda invested serious money in alternative energy techology creation; he coulda sent every kid in America to college or tech school; he coulda created no interest loans to help people keep their homes and cars; he coulda replaced every high mileage police car, ambulance, and fire truck in America; and what he did was fund a few part-time census workers. He pissed away a golden opportunity to do great deeds.[/[/I]QUOTE]

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xccsve asked a pertinent question, are you advocating socialism?

Using the economic realities from the 1940's is a poor excuse for a viable economic system. Granted, the government funded and managed the Manhattan Project and corrupted the scientific journey into the peaceful use of Nuclear Energy to create a weapon.

Many may not realize how close the Axis Powers came to world domination. But for the fluke of a victory at Midway, America would have been unable to defend the entire west coast of Canada and the US. Were it not for the improbable victory of the British Air Force, Germany would have invaded England and America would have been in an unsustainable vice between two war fronts.

Obama has invested billions in alternative energy projects, the sum total of which, might, at the most generous estimate, contribute 15% of the required energy for the nation.

It was government housing policy that destroyed the market place and you call for more insane intervention in the market place? Ah, you just wanted to get a rise out of me...well...you did.

General Motors, of which the American people own 61% of the company, thanks to the Bailout, is foisting off the Chevy Volt to do exactly as you suggested, subsidizing an untested technology that is mainly outsourced to China. An electric car that can go an astounding 40 miles before the $7,000 battery is drained dry. Gimme a fucking break!

Government is the problem, JBJ, not the solution; and you should know that.

Amicus

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

AMICUS

XSSVE's question is an attempt at a GOTCHA and dishonest. The issue isnt socialism; the issue is looting the commonwealth.

You assume America is a capitalist nation; it isnt and hasnt been since 1933, maybe 1865. We're an oligarchy protecting corporate and social elites plus their attendant bureaucracy and stooges. And youre okay with the arrangement so long as you get your guvmint check and Medicare; so spare me your patronizing contempt, I collect neither benefit.

In my opinion you and Obama are simply Katrina looters; I simply suggest you and Obama and XSSVE not steal every Penny of the public treasury.

Whatever it is we are is in serious peril, and no capitalist cavalry is riding to our rescue.