Sissy-Slut Sub stories at Lit

[Little Bird]

When browsing the Transsexual/Crossdresser stories at Literotica, I'm often getting a bit bothered about the huge number of stories that are either about transsexuals that are complete sluts and love to be treated as whores by as many men as possible, or normal guys who are forced into crossdressing by their abusive girlfriends and get fucked by other men against their will.

While I've come to accept that some people just like fantasies of abuse and semi-rape, the huge amount of such stories in the TS section always bothers me quite a bit.
Is that any indication of how people secretly view other people with nonconformist genders? Nymphomanics who enjoy being treated badly, and weaklings who don't have the courage to stand up to others?
As a transgender person, I find that highly offensive, even if it's not meant like that in any way. A transgender person is not made, nor can a transgender identity forced on a person. It's part of who a person really is, not something that someone can just decide. And always having sex with random people is something that has been part of many racist and homophobic stereotypes.

I don't have a problem with it, if a person has a fantasy of being submissive to strangers and like to envision it in the persona of a woman, and then write stories about it. But the fact, that such stories seem to dominate the story archiv, instead of stories transgender people who lead normal lives and have a common monogamous relationship, is something that bothers me quite a bit.

What are your thoughts regarding this? I'd like to hear a lot of others people views on this subject.

 

[jackstud]

You have a point Darlin

 

[Experiencedguy]

Just a few points for you to consider:

Usually, the editors just let an author decide the catagory. So while you (as well as I, frequently) think a story should be posted in Nonconsent, Group Sex, or whatever, it is usually up to the aouthor where to post it. I have seen numerous complaints to authors for posting in the wrong catagory. Because this is (basically) a volunteer site, you have to take what you get. You could always send a nice PM to the author, and suggest you feel they are posting in the wrong catagory.

Next: Most of the authors are writing fantasies, with no basis on real life. You should know this whenever you read a story, unless it preceeded with a "This is based on real life".

Finally, you are from Europe. Life for T/S's in Europe is much different than in the US - and this is largely a US audiance. I should know - I had my first loving, long term TS (sexy) relationship (lasted for a few years), with a beautiful girl several years ago, in Berlin. My next one was many years later, here in the states.

I'm just trying to give you some insight into the American thoughts: Many Americans are fasinated by them, but don't really have a clue what they are really about, what they think, and how they really act.

 

[jackstud]

Guy

Tell us about the difference ? Thank You for your insight

 

[Stella_Omega]

Little Bird, you are right. The erotic appeal of transsexuals, for most American men, includes a huge tangle of misogyny visited on the "other." it pretty well sucks. And you can see in this forum, how many men take that on themselves. I think a lot of these guys want to go out and rut-- but real men don't do that, only (female) sluts. So, a skirt means they can go get fucked. Trousers-- not so much.

Bummer.

One big problem with lit's story categories is that there's a hierarchy of acceptability, and phobic straight men rule the roost.
Non-con is non-con if it's hetero-- if it has two men, it's gay, and gay men can just live with the non-con aspects, because the het dudes don't want to. If it's trans, it goes into the transsexual ghetto.
And I don't even want to talk about the lesbian category.

I don't submit my stories to lit any more.

(experiencedguy-- I know you mean well, but -- mansplain much? )

 

[AndyS_uk]

When browsing the Transsexual/Crossdresser stories at Literotica, I'm often getting a bit bothered about the huge number of stories that are either about transsexuals that are complete sluts and love to be treated as whores by as many men as possible, or normal guys who are forced into crossdressing by their abusive girlfriends and get fucked by other men against their will.

While I've come to accept that some people just like fantasies of abuse and semi-rape, the huge amount of such stories in the TS section always bothers me quite a bit.
Is that any indication of how people secretly view other people with nonconformist genders? Nymphomanics who enjoy being treated badly, and weaklings who don't have the courage to stand up to others?
As a transgender person, I find that highly offensive, even if it's not meant like that in any way. A transgender person is not made, nor can a transgender identity forced on a person. It's part of who a person really is, not something that someone can just decide. And always having sex with random people is something that has been part of many racist and homophobic stereotypes.

I don't have a problem with it, if a person has a fantasy of being submissive to strangers and like to envision it in the persona of a woman, and then write stories about it. But the fact, that such stories seem to dominate the story archiv, instead of stories transgender people who lead normal lives and have a common monogamous relationship, is something that bothers me quite a bit.

What are your thoughts regarding this? I'd like to hear a lot of others people views on this subject.

It's an interesting point and one that I can only write on from my own personal perspective so don't take this as meaning that I think that every guy who wears a dress thinks this way....

...I started dressing in my mum's panties when I was only around ten or eleven and slid objects up my ass from about the same age. I've had dominant partners, in adult life, who have enjoyed me dressing en-femme and I really like being that way.

One dominant partner and I used to talk a lot about fantasies and, whilst some of the stories that I have written on lit are her fantasies in my own words yet others, in just the same vein, have come from my own thoughts.

Do I like to be dominated, abused, tied and pseudo-raped by a partner? In the right kind of relationship then yes! Not BECAUSE I cross-dress but as part of something that we both enjoyed in the relationship.

Having said that I'm a Dad with a thirteen-year marriage behind me to a lady in which crossdressing only once was even thought about. I'd love to say it was a successful marriage as we're both good friends and our son is a graduate but I'm not sure that any marriage that ends in a divorce can be considered successful. In daily life I'm strong, opinionated (can't you tell!) and won't be trodden-on for any reason. But put me in a pair of panties and a skirt and the "other me" is put into a box and the submissive, sexual toy emerges.

I'm not sure if this doesn't confuse the issue but maybe I'm just saying that each of has written about what we want, what we'd like or, in my case, what we are. One lady who cross-dresses and is on this board said to me a few days ago that one of these stories was "every cross-dresser's dream". The whole theme seems to be quite common and I've heard it from cross-dresser's, those who love them, and dominants alike.

There is, however, a very definite difference between trans-gendered and cross-dressing which I appreciate and, which is what I think you may be saying; I'm not sure that Literotica have got it at all right in lumping them together under one heading. It's a good point and one that I'd never thought of before and certainly one that I will ry and be aware of when next I'm finding the right place to put my stories.

If this at all seems off-the-point or in any way disrespectful it's not meant to be. I'm more than aware that there is a major difference between you and I and I'm not trying to lump you into the cross-dressing bracket. Just trying to add an opinion to an interesting discussion and a very valid point.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Andy, even though I'm not the OP, I wanted to say that you have a wonderful way of putting things! You sound so much more reasonable than I do....

 

[AndyS_uk]

Andy, even though I'm not the OP, I wanted to say that you have a wonderful way of putting things! You sound so much more reasonable than I do....

Really? Well thank you...but I always like to read what you write and don't think you unreasonable. Anyway it's a much appreciated compliment .

 

[Stella_Omega]

Really? Well thank you...but I always like to read what you write and don't think you unreasonable. Anyway it's a much appreciated compliment .

Thanks back atcha