Proposition 8 ruled unconstitutional..

[Luk]

Look_Imadyk showing us why he won top troll honors here last year
here's to defending your crown in 2010

So how do you feel about brothers fucking their sister and pissing in her ass?

 

[The Mutt]

The Constitution says that we all have equal protection under the law.

The Supreme Court ruled in Loving v Virginia that marriage is a basic civil right.

Case closed. Gay Marriage is legal.

 

[Wok]

The Constitution says that we all have equal protection under the law.

The Supreme Court ruled in Loving v Virginia that marriage is a basic civil right.

Case closed. Gay Marriage is legal.

It is not too often I smile over political stuff, but this decision did.

I need to call my cousin and ask how she is feeling right now.

 

[The Mutt]

It is not too often I smile over political stuff, but this decision did.

I need to call my cousin and ask how she is feeling right now.

Did she marry a Negro? Lawzee, what is we gonna do?

 

[Sean]

It is not too often I smile over political stuff, but this decision did.

Really? I pretty much never stop laughing at US politics.

 

[Saint Peter]

Really? I pretty much never stop laughing at US politics.

Dude! You have a queen.

 

[The Mutt]

Dude! You have a queen.

I know! That always cracks me up when Brits try to school me about how fucked up America is.

 

[Sean]

Dude! You have a queen.

I know! That always cracks me up when Brits try to school me about how fucked up America is.

Oh, I laugh at ours too. And Liz pretty much has fuck all to do with politics.

 

[Wok]

Oh, I laugh at ours too. And Liz pretty much has fuck all to do with politics.

Could be worse. Thatcher could be in office again...

 

[mark197205]

Could be worse. Thatcher could be in office again...

For gods sake, dont set him off!

 

[unregistered]

 

[RoryN]

A openly gay judge strikes down the will of the people of California.

The will of slave owners was struck down, too. And I bet you're still pissed.

(Finally saw your picture. Did you own any?)

 

[Byron In Exile]

in essence , the court is saying fuck you to the overwhelming majority
ah liberalism...tyranny is thy name

Is this some sort of joke?

 

[mark197205]

Is this some sort of joke?

You know he believes what he's saying..

 

[Slowlane]

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/08/0...section=cnn_latest#fbid=WS2SPseXi3S&wom=false

I'm sure this will both please and annoy a lot of people..

It's really incontestable, unless of course, one is an activist. Whether one chooses to think it's right and moral or not is a mater of personal preference. But the law is obviously constitutional as long as it's a state law.

 

[mark197205]

It's really incontestable, unless of course, one is an activist. Whether one chooses to think it's right and moral or not is a mater of personal preference. But the law is obviously constitutional as long as it's a state law.

Wow, thanks for that hugely insightful post.

 

[RobDownSouth]

It's really incontestable, unless of course, one is an activist. Whether one chooses to think it's right and moral or not is a mater of personal preference. But the law is obviously constitutional as long as it's a state law.

Slowbrain, are you of the opinion that homosexuality is a choice?

 

[Byron In Exile]

It's really incontestable, unless of course, one is an activist. Whether one chooses to think it's right and moral or not is a mater of personal preference. But the law is obviously constitutional as long as it's a state law.

If the state creates a legal union which two people can enter into giving them certain legal privileges, then, under the US Constitution, it can no more specify what sex they have to be than it can specify what race they have to be.

 

[mercury14]

A openly gay judge strikes down the will of the people of California. Let's see if Democrat Jerry Brown the big gay supporter takes it to the Supreme Court or lets it stand.

Why do you think judges should rule according to the will of the people and not the Constitution?

 

[The Mutt]

Slowbrain, are you of the opinion that homosexuality is a choice?

It doesn't matter if it is a choice or not.

Should the government tell you that you should love brunettes and not blondes?

Civil marriage is a legal contract between consenting adults. Period. Case closed.

If I can marry Eve, but not Steve, my rights are violated.

 

[Ovidius]

Public opinion on prop-8 was strongly in favor of allowing gay marriage. Then 50 million dollars of out-of-state money led by the Mormons poured in and flooded the airwaves with hateful, distorted ads. Anyone remember the commercials saying that unless gay marraige was banned that your kid's teacher was going to teach your son or daughter HOW TO BE GAY?

That's literally what they said. That and worse things. Then opinion changed a few points.

So, an opinion that was "strongly in favor" changes to a 48-52 outcome by changing "a few points". That does not compute.

And in all fairness, do not forget that the "50 million dollars of out-of-state money led by the Mormons" was matched by 40 millions in opposition to the proposition (actually 43 millions against 39). Or did that not fit into your narrative?

You know, if it takes a European like me 2 minutes to find things like that on Wikipedia, it is stupid to rely on people not finding it out, or pointing it out, in a debate.

Anyway, this is what a constitution is for. If you do not like it there are ways to change it. They are not as easy or quick as passing a simple law or holding a referendum, and there are plenty of people who will hold veto powers in that process, but that is precisely the point.

 

[HB1965]

It's really incontestable, unless of course, one is an activist. Whether one chooses to think it's right and moral or not is a mater of personal preference. But the law is obviously constitutional as long as it's a state law.

Oh Please. Just because a law is a state law does not make it constitutional. And it's not incontestable. It limits individual rights so it's contestable.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I had a great essay bookmarked to counter the Vettebigot's "gay marriage leads to polygamy! and bestiality! and polygamous bestiality!" rants. I suppose I better re-check the link while waiting for the General Board's most notorious homophobe's inevitable commentary.

Actually DOMA leads to bigotry.

 

[mercury14]

And in all fairness, do not forget that the "50 million dollars of out-of-state money led by the Mormons" was matched by 40 millions in opposition to the proposition (actually 43 millions against 39). Or did that not fit into your narrative?

The difference is that one side campaigned on promoting freedom. The other side campaigned on pure, unadulterated fearmongering lies.

Like how your kids will learn to be gay in school. In elementary school at that!

Like how if gays somewhere that you'll never meet get married that YOUR marraige will be damaged.

Like how the Church of Latter Day Saints is under attack a vicious attack from the government and only votes can save it.

Like how churches would be taxed if gays get married.

Like how priests and ministers who refuse to perform gay marraige would be arrested???


All of these messages were plainly laid out in TV and radio commercials that blanketed the airwaves in California. You can go back and watch them on YouTube.

Some people remember that this was the worst, most deceitful campaign in American history. You should too.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

A openly gay judge strikes down the will of the people of California. Let's see if Democrat Jerry Brown the big gay supporter takes it to the Supreme Court or lets it stand.

No. The will of the people won out.

The people of California have an equal protection clause in their constitution. The judge honored that.