Five Dead in Morgan Hill...

[Zeb_Carter]

Not really! So you can wear a t-shirt with a Mexican flag on it on May 5th but you can't wear one with an American flag. No wonder this country is so fucked up.

Five LOHS students sent home for wearing American flag T-shirts
May 5, 2010
By Lindsay Bryant

Five Live Oak High School students' First Amendment rights were challenged this morning when they were asked to leave school because they donned American flag T-shirts on Cinco de Mayo. Officials at the school chose not to comment on the situation, but one student said an official called the T-shirts "incendiary."

"They said we were starting a fight, we were fuel to the fire," said sophomore Matt Dariano.

The Morgan Hill Unified School District issued this statement: "In an attempt to foster a spirit of cultural awareness and maintain a safe and supportive school environment, the Live Oak High School administration took certain actions earlier today. The district does not concur with the Live Oak High School administration's interpretation of either board or district policy related to these actions."

 

[Huckleman2000]

Did you really just compare this to the Kent State Massacre in your thread title?

That is one of the most fucked up things I've ever seen online. "Two girls and a cup" and Zeb fucking Carter.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Did you really just compare this to the Kent State Massacre in your thread title?

That is one of the most fucked up things I've ever seen online. "Two girls and a cup" and Zeb fucking Carter.

What's fucked up is call Kent State a massacre. It was a tragedy yes. It was sad that people were killed. It was sad that those people also had no concern or respect for other peoples lives or property.

Now if you will excuse me I have to go shoot some people, be back later.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I suspect the peckerwoods wanted attention and a confrontation. I think a flag lapel pin is appropriate. My objection is simply bad taste. The pin expresses the same sentiment without making the expression a fart.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Now if you will excuse me I have to go shoot some people, be back later.

Just make sure you take out some o' those pesky, uppity darkies and brownies, Zeb! Don't make a mistake like you did last time and hit White people with bushy hair and tans!

 

[Stella_Omega]

You're in competition for the "BoxLicker falsifying headline" awards, aren't you?

 

[Zeb_Carter]

A follow up on this...

May 6, 2010

"There Will Be No Apology"
By Tom Bevan
Those are the words of the mother of Matt Dariano, one of the five kids at Live Oak High School in the San Francisco Bay Area who were sent home for having the temerity to wear American flag tee shirts on the "Mexican heritage day" of Cinco de Mayo.

"There will not be an apology," Mrs. Dariano told the camera crew outside the school. "Matthew is part Hispanic, OK? He's an American. So, no, there will be no apology from any Dariano."

 

[Handley_Page]

May I ask a simple question please?

Were these kids American (eg., USA Passport) or not ?
So what was wrong with wearing a patriotic T-shirt ?
Someone please explain.
Thanks

[ps. Yes I looked in up. No; it did not make sense ]

 

[3113]

So what was wrong with wearing a patriotic T-shirt ?

I suspect it had less to do with wearing a patriotic tee-shirt then coming to school itching for a fight. If the school can prove that it tossed them out because they came ready to bust heads, then they have a case. If they tossed them out just because of the tee-shirts, that might be a problem.

BUT, hey, schools can and do have dress codes. If they ban all tees with all flags then they're fine. There is a limit to freedom of speech on campus when it comes to dress.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

It's called Politically Correct run a muck, wouldn't want to offend someone's little snowflake now would we. They were not necessarily looking for trouble, yet on cinco de myo it would be okay to wear clothing with a mexican flag but oh so Politically un-Correct to do what these kids did. In fact one of them is of mexican descent.

 

[cloudy]

They were not necessarily looking for trouble,

And you know this....how?

 

[AmerikanPatriot]

"There will not be an apology," Mrs. Dariano told the camera crew outside the school. "Matthew is part Hispanic, OK? He's an American. So, no, there will be no apology from any Dariano."

Hispanic and American don't go together. You are either one or the other. You can't be both.

 

[Dragonlipz]

What's fucked up is call Kent State a massacre. It was a tragedy yes. It was sad that people were killed. It was sad that those people also had no concern or respect for other peoples lives or property.

Now if you will excuse me I have to go shoot some people, be back later.

Fucked up is living in your skin.....

 

[IrezumiKiss]

It's called Politically Correct run a muck, wouldn't want to offend someone's little snowflake now would we. They were not necessarily looking for trouble, yet on cinco de myo it would be okay to wear clothing with a mexican flag but oh so Politically un-Correct to do what these kids did. In fact one of them is of mexican descent.

Gol-DURN it, Zeb! We wouldn'ta be havin' this problem if everyone was the same! If only everyone was the same color an' ate the same food an' spoke the same langwidge and watched the same television shows!

I mean, we live in the same country, right? So why can't we all do the same things? Why is this damn diversity bullshit gotta fuck everything up all th' time? Ain't no need to have Mexican-this, or African-that...jus' make 'em all the same and if they don't like it, tell 'em to go back to where they came from!

Gol-DURNNIT, Zeb! My American blood is a-gettin' fired up!

 

[Boxlicker101]

I suspect it had less to do with wearing a patriotic tee-shirt then coming to school itching for a fight. If the school can prove that it tossed them out because they came ready to bust heads, then they have a case. If they tossed them out just because of the tee-shirts, that might be a problem.

BUT, hey, schools can and do have dress codes. If they ban all tees with all flags then they're fine. There is a limit to freedom of speech on campus when it comes to dress.

I really doubt they were looking for trouble. There were only five of them, and I am quite sure they would have had no wish to get into a brawl where they would be outnumbered so badly.

It's not a matter of a dress code. The same T-shirts had been worn to school previously, according to two of the mothers who were interviewed on television. Besides that, there were many kids who were wearing Mexican flags or other icons, so there were no violations there.

We will see how things come out next week.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Section 8d of the Flag Code of the United States reads: "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel."

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Section 8d of the Flag Code of the United States reads: "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel."

Its simply poor taste, too. I never cared to see flag shoulder patches cops wore back in the 60s.

And while I'm at it, shoot every MFer who improvises on the National Anthem at events.

 

[Handley_Page]

Its simply poor taste, too. I never cared to see flag shoulder patches cops wore back in the 60s.

And while I'm at it, shoot every MFer who improvises on the National Anthem at events.

If wearing an indication of your allegiance is poor taste, why does the President wear a badge ?

 

[3113]

If wearing an indication of your allegiance is poor taste, why does the President wear a badge ?

An athlete wearing a flag in the Olympics indicates that this is his team and who he works for (or serves). A fan wearing that flag indicates that he wants his team to win and may (or may not) appreciate it if anyone else wins.

I am not saying, by the way, that what happened was right (i.e. that the school should have sent home the flag-wearing boys). I'm merely saying that this wasn't one guy wearing a flag shirt indicating his allegiance. Five of them did and that means they must have agreed to do so in order to state a message, not merely to show support for the country when it needs support. An individual stating their preference is one thing. Five individuals wearing the same thing all on the same day, at a school, is a message.

For some strange reason groups stating messages tend to get into fights, and schools find that disruptive to the learning process. I'm not aware enough of free-speech rights when it comes to schools and clothing to know if the school was in the right/wrong. But as I said, schools do have a right to create a dress code. The only stipulation is that it would have to work across the boards. All flags, not just the U.S. flag.

 

[Liar]

1. The punks clearly did it to be douchebags. Like some Mexican kid at that school said, it would be like them choosing the 4th of July as the day they demonstratively fly the Mexican flag.

2. So? Let them. Why give a rats ass?

 

[Liar]

Section 8d of the Flag Code of the United States reads: "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel."

So when Obama was the only one not wearing that damn pin, he was actually the patriot?

 

[Boxlicker101]

1. The punks clearly did it to be douchebags. Like some Mexican kid at that school said, it would be like them choosing the 4th of July as the day they demonstratively fly the Mexican flag.

2. So? Let them. Why give a rats ass?

In Mexico, the Mexican flag is flown on July 4. And on every other day of the year. I didn't look, but I am pretty sure the US flag is flown in many places on May 5, as it is every day. It was probably flown in front of the school on May 5.

These kids were not wearing some kind of uniform. I saw a photo, and each of them was wearing a different T-shirt, but each one featured the flag. According to what two of therir mothers said, these are ordeinary garments that had been worn to school before, not some special thing.

The flag code is just a suggestion and does not have the force of law.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Fucked up is living in your skin.....

Guess what it's exactly like yours!

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Section 8d of the Flag Code of the United States reads: "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel."

Gee, what does it say about dragging it on the ground?

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Gee, what does it say about dragging it on the ground?

Allowing the Flag to touch anything below it is also not allowed. In other words, it's an offense equal to wearing it as a garment.
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§ 8. Respect for Flag.

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, state flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

(a) The flag should never be displayed with union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.

(c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.

(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker’s desk, draping in front of the platform, and for a decoration in general.

(e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.

(f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.

(g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

(h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.

(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.

(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
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CRS-2

In addition to the Flag Code, a separate provision contained in the Federal
Criminal Code established criminal penalties for certain treatment of the flag.6 Prior to 1989, this provision provided criminal penalties for certain acts of desecration to the flag. In response to the Supreme Court decision in Texas v. Johnson7 (which held that anti-desecration statutes are unconstitutional if aimed at suppressing one type of expression), Congress enacted the Flag Protection Act of 1989 to provide criminal penalties for certain acts which violate the physical integrity of the flag.8 This law
imposed a fine and/or up to one year in prison for knowingly mutilating, defacing, physically defiling, maintaining on the floor, or trampling upon any flag of the United States. In 1990, however, the Supreme Court held that the Flag Protection Act was unconstitutional as applied to a burning of the flag in a public protest.

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Flag Code of the Unites States