Sadist or Masochist?

[Soumis]

Just curious. For me my masochistic tendencies have always gone hand in hand with my submission. In my journey the 'm' is bdsm stands for masochism more often than not. I've been wondering lately if I'm in the minority in that respect, so a poll!

Feel free to vote more than once as applies.



side note: bear with me as I sort out this poll business

 

[Essene]

I voted penguins cuz... I happen to moonlight as a penguin.

 

[Soumis]

I voted penguins cuz... I'm a switch who also happens to moonlight as a penguin.

When I bottom I'm a sensitive pyl maso, and when I top, I'm a crazy ass mother fucking PYL sadist.



Muahahahahahahahahahahahackhack...

*cough* *cough*

That's why I left the option open to vote more than once.


penguin moonlighting sounds dangerous!

 

[Stella_Omega]

Okay I thought I knew what PYL means... Do I know what pyl means?

Otherwise, it's gonna be penguins.

 

[Soumis]

Okay I thought I knew what PYL means... Do I know what pyl means?

Otherwise, it's gonna be penguins.

Just dividing things up between "uppercase" PYLs: Dominants, Tops, Masters, Daddies, etc and "lowercase" pyls: submissives, slaves, bottoms, what have you.

Obviously my poll construction is on the shady side. Probably that slacker poll worker I hired! *cough* myself *cough*

 

[Essene]

That's why I left the option open to vote more than once.


penguin moonlighting sounds dangerous!

It's very dark and mysterious work...

Yes, but if I voted PYL Sadist, and pyl maso at the same time, they would cancel one another out- which would make me vanilla, and I just can't have that.

Okay I thought I knew what PYL means... Do I know what pyl means?

Otherwise, it's gonna be penguins.

Honestly, I think we all know you want to vote "penguins". You're not fooling anyone here.

 

[Stella_Omega]

It's very dark and mysterious work...

Yes, but if I voted PYL Sadist, and pyl maso at the same time, they would cancel one another out- which would make me vanilla, and I just can't have that.

Or make some people drool on their keyboards.

Honestly, I think we all know you want to vote "penguins". You're not fooling anyone here.

I DID, you're right!

But I manned up and voted PYL top and bottom.

 

[Essene]

Or make some people drool on their keyboards.
I DID, you're right!

But I manned up and voted PYL top and bottom.

HA!

Okay, okay, I'll be honest, it's possible that I didn't read the fine print initially. However, I'm still far more comfortable being a penguin, you know, rather than risking accidentally turning vanilla.

So um, did my choice, or the implication of it actually make you drool, or was that just a generalization?

 

[ecstaticsub]

I'm neither a sadist or a masochist, I'm submissive to my PYL. I like being spanked and I crave pain in a sexual context only. I wouldn't consider that masochism though.

 

[00Syd]

I'm not really sure if I'm a masochist or not. Pain turns me on, but I don't really like it. Like, I don't like pain, but I like it when people hurt me. If that makes sense.

So.... Penguins it is!

 

[Stella_Omega]

HA!

Okay, okay, I'll be honest, it's possible that I didn't read the fine print initially. However, I'm still far more comfortable being a penguin, you know, rather than risking accidentally turning vanilla.

So um, did my choice, or the implication of it actually make you drool, or was that just a generalization?

The toppiest of tops and the subbiest of bottoms all wrapped up in one luscious package...

What's not to like?

 

[BiBunny]

Submissive sadomasochist. I voted pyl sadist and pyl masochist.

 

[subish2009]

I voted pyl masochist, but I'm not really too much of a masochist. I have days where I whine about the smallest pain and other days where I can take so much it scares me. Overall, I ID as moderately subby and minorly maso.

 

[Essene]

The toppiest of tops and the subbiest of bottoms all wrapped up in one luscious package...

What's not to like?

You have a valid point. I'm feeling sexier already.

 

[Soumis]

I'm not really sure if I'm a masochist or not. Pain turns me on, but I don't really like it. Like, I don't like pain, but I like it when people hurt me. If that makes sense.

So.... Penguins it is!

Makes sense to me. I think the D/s side of pain can be appealing on its own.

I really thought penguins were going to take this in a landslide.

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

Who said it had to be physical?

Dictionary.com:

Sadism: sexual gratification gained through causing pain or degradation to others.

Masochism: the condition in which sexual gratification depends on suffering, physical pain, and humiliation.

Merriam-Webster:

Sadism: 1 : a sexual perversion in which gratification is obtained by the infliction of physical or mental pain on others (as on a love object)
2 a : delight in cruelty b : excessive cruelty

Masochism: 1 : a sexual perversion characterized by pleasure in being subjected to pain or humiliation especially by a love object
2 : pleasure in being abused or dominated : a taste for suffering

Hmmm....Exactly how many people have to be into it before it ceases to be a "sexual perversion"?


Oh, yes. This:

Penguin: any of several flightless, aquatic birds of the family Spheniscidae, of the Southern Hemisphere, having webbed feet and wings reduced to flippers.

 

[Soumis]

It's very dark and mysterious work...

Yes, but if I voted PYL Sadist, and pyl maso at the same time, they would cancel one another out- which would make me vanilla, and I just can't have that.

I don't think they'd cancel one another out. I think it's more like having Phish Food ice cream. Probably more than one should logically put in an ice cream flavor, but works out lovely all the same.

Submissive sadomasochist. I voted pyl sadist and pyl masochist.

Very cool. I like seeing the double votes.

 

[Soumis]

Who said it had to be physical?

Dictionary.com:

Sadism: sexual gratification gained through causing pain or degradation to others.

Masochism: the condition in which sexual gratification depends on suffering, physical pain, and humiliation.

Merriam-Webster:

Sadism: 1 : a sexual perversion in which gratification is obtained by the infliction of physical or mental pain on others (as on a love object)
2 a : delight in cruelty b : excessive cruelty

Masochism: 1 : a sexual perversion characterized by pleasure in being subjected to pain or humiliation especially by a love object
2 : pleasure in being abused or dominated : a taste for suffering

Hmmm....Exactly how many people have to be into it before it ceases to be a "sexual perversion"?


Oh, yes. This:

Penguin: any of several flightless, aquatic birds of the family Spheniscidae, of the Southern Hemisphere, having webbed feet and wings reduced to flippers.

I was going for physical sadism/masochism, but to each his own. I was curious about whether as many people enjoyed the physical exchange as the D/s power exchange (which I feel gets a lot more discussion). So I imagined the poll from a strictly physical perspective, but then again, there was that shady poll making work mentioned above.

 

[Netzach]

PYL sadist, periodically masochistic.

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

I was going for physical sadism/masochism, but to each his own. I was curious about whether as many people enjoyed the physical exchange as the D/s power exchange (which I feel gets a lot more discussion). So I imagined the poll from a strictly physical perspective, but then again, there was that shady poll making work mentioned above.

Those poll workers need to be subjected to suffering, physical pain, and humiliation.

 

[DVS]

I'm confused now. I'm PYL, and I sometimes consider myself with sadistic tendencies, but I know I'd never ever hurt a penguin. That's just not right.

 

[Essene]

I don't think they'd cancel one another out. I think it's more like having Phish Food ice cream. Probably more than one should logically put in an ice cream flavor, but works out lovely all the same.

I love Phish Food! -However, I beg to differ. There is nothing illogical about chocolate icecream, marshmallow rivers, caramel estuaries, and fudgey fish all rolled into one; somewhat environmentally conscious container!!!!!!

I think generally whoever had those dictionary definitions is appropriate. Masos can be either/or when it comes to physical and emotional suffering.
-Same goes for sadists.There are so many variations of people's sexuality, and self identity, a LIT poll would most likely never be able to handle it.

I like penguins.

 

[Soumis]

Those poll workers need to be subjected to suffering, physical pain, and humiliation.

Physical pain: check (sore throat)

Humiliation: check (shoddy poll)

I suppose I could cover suffering with a BLoved post, but that's a hard limit, still searching for an alternative.

 

[Soumis]

I love Phish Food! -However, I beg to differ. There is nothing illogical about chocolate icecream, marshmallow rivers, caramel estuaries, and fudgey fish all rolled into one; somewhat environmentally conscious container!!!!!!

I think generally whoever had those dictionary definitions is appropriate. Masos can be either/or when it comes to physical and emotional suffering.
-Same goes for sadists.There are so many variations of people's sexuality, and self identity, a LIT poll would most likely never be able to handle it.

I like penguins.

I guess I should have been more specific. Do you derive pleasure from getting physical pain? Do you derive pleasure from giving it? Do you love/hate penguins? Yes/no?

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

Physical pain: check (sore throat)

Feel better.

Humiliation: check (shoddy poll)

I've never created a poll on Lit. You know the Native American proverb: "Never judge a pollster until you've tried to assemble and conduct a coherent Lit poll with reasonable methodology. In mocassins."

I suppose I could cover suffering with a BLoved post, but that's a hard limit, still searching for an alternative.

That would be so cool. If that phrase began to turn up in BDSM personals. "Hard limits: kids, blood, BLoved." Even better, would be to think of a word that needs a definition, and make BLoved that word. Dan Savage did this with "santorum," and it really caught on.

Hmmm....