The healthhcare bill will help Republicans too! ~Micheal Moore

[Stella_Omega]

Subject: The Great Thing About the Health Care Law That Has Passed? It Will Save Republican Lives, Too (An Open Letter to Republicans from Michael Moore)
Reply-To: maillist@michaelmoore.com

Monday, March 22nd, 2010

To My Fellow Citizens, the Republicans:

Thanks to last night's vote, that child of yours who has had asthma since birth will now be covered after suffering for her first nine years as an American child with a pre-existing condition.

Thanks to last night's vote, that 23-year-old of yours who will be hit one day by a drunk driver and spend six months recovering in the hospital will now not go bankrupt because you will be able to keep him on your insurance policy.

Thanks to last night's vote, after your cancer returns for the third time -- racking up another $200,000 in costs to keep you alive -- your insurance company will have to commit a criminal act if they even think of dropping you from their rolls.

Yes, my Republican friends, even though you have opposed this health care bill, we've made sure it is going to cover you, too, in your time of need. I know you're upset right now. I know you probably think that if you did get wiped out by an illness, or thrown out of your home because of a medical bankruptcy, that you would somehow pull yourself up by your bootstraps and survive. I know that's a comforting story to tell yourself, and if John Wayne were still alive I'm sure he could make that into a movie for you.

But the reality is that these health insurance companies have only one mission: To take as much money from you as they can -- and then work like demons to deny you whatever coverage and help they can should you get sick.

So, when you find yourself suddenly broadsided by a life-threatening illness someday, perhaps you'll thank those pinko-socialist, Canadian-loving Democrats and independents for what they did Sunday evening.

If it's any consolation, the thieves who run the health insurance companies will still get to deny coverage to adults with pre-existing conditions for the next four years. They'll also get to cap an individual's annual health care reimbursements for the next four years. And if they break the pre-existing ban that was passed last night, they'll only be fined $100 a day! And, the best part? The law will require all citizens who aren't poor or old to write a check to a private insurance company. It's truly a banner day for these corporations.

So don't feel too bad. We're a long way from universal health care. Over 15 million Americans will still be uncovered -- and that means about 15,000 will still lose their lives each year because they won't be able to afford to see a doctor or get an operation. But another 30,000 will live. I hope that's ok with you.

If you don't mind, we're now going to get busy trying to improve upon this bill so that all Americans are covered and so the grubby health insurance companies will be put out of business -- because when it comes to helping the sick, no one should ever be allowed to ask the question, "How much money can we save by making this poor bastard suffer?"

Please, my Republican friends, if you can, take a quiet moment away from your AM radio and cable news network this morning and be happy for your country. We're doing better. And we're doing it for you, too.

Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com

P.S. I'll have more to say on this tonight, live on CNN, at 9pm ET. I'll be talking with Larry King about the health care bill and where we go from here, considering we still don't have universal health care.

P.P.S. In case you missed these photos in yesterday's NY Times Sunday Magazine... That's the results of seven years of madness. The Iraq War began its 8th year this weekend. How can we remove more of those responsible for this tragedy in November?

 

[PoppingTom]

Newspapers in our country saying that the now passed health care bill is so trimmed from the original concept, that it's hard to understand that Republicans not loving this.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

See how much youre lovin it when you lose your part-time job or youre fined for not buying insurance with the money the part-time gig paid you.

 

[PoppingTom]

See how much youre lovin it when you lose your part-time job or youre fined for not buying insurance with the money the part-time gig paid you.

Man, I'm always health insured, even when I'm out of work. Our social help system features health insurance, too.

When I get a job and don't call them my insurance, I get automatically the state's insurance, don't even have to do anything. They left that costs from my wage as deduction, like the pension and the social insurance.

 

[Huckleman2000]

Newspapers in our country saying that the now passed health care bill is so trimmed from the original concept, that it's hard to understand that Republicans not loving this.

I imagine that in other countries, there is a lot that is hard to understand about the Republicans. We barely understand them here. They live in an imaginary world created by Fox News and reinforced by Right Wing talk radio.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

I sit on the fence and, whilst wanting a new health system, see many flaws and Democrat worms in the current legislation.

Just a question for you uber-politicians; isn't it true that the Republicans can ride a coach and horses through 'reconciliation' in the Senate and scupper the legislation. How does the 'parliamentrian' cope?

 

[JackLuis]

While the left hold it's nose...

Chomsky: Health bill sustains the system’s core ills

"In an interview with Raw Story, world-renowned scholar and political critic Noam Chomsky reluctantly called the bill a mildly positive step, but cautioned that it wouldn’t fix the fundamental problems with the nation's troubled system.

"The United States’ health care system is so dysfunctional it has about twice the health care costs of comparable countries and some of the worst outcomes," Chomsky told Raw Story. "This bill continues with that."


Now we need to push for Insurance to be regulated by the anti-trust laws. And , while we are at it, perhaps, regulating financial fraud and deception.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I'm thinking that there's a provision in the 1974 Social Security Act that prohibits changes to Social Security and Medicare Law using reconciliation. So it seems that if the Senate uses reconciliation to fix ObamaCare the Bill fails cuz it violates the Social Security Act. And if they cant use reconciliation to pass ObamaCare, its dead in the Senate.

 

[Huckleman2000]

I'm thinking that there's a provision in the 1974 Social Security Act that prohibits changes to Social Security and Medicare Law using reconciliation. So it seems that if the Senate uses reconciliation to fix ObamaCare the Bill fails cuz it violates the Social Security Act. And if they cant use reconciliation to pass ObamaCare, its dead in the Senate.

Quick! Call Mitch McConnell! I'm sure no one must have thought of that yet!

 

[Pure]

note to michael

MM [let's proceed] so the grubby health insurance companies will be put out of business --
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dream on, Michael.

reality: http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=699529

got a problem with it?

 

[JamesSD]

Don't forget that the majority of the currently uninsured added by this bill come from "Red" states. Texas and Mississippi are two in particular that have huge numbers of uninsured. The Northeast and Pacific Northwest, Liberal strongholds, will get a much smaller piece of the pie.

This is actually what Republicans are the most afraid of now that the bill has passed; it's going to benefit a lot of people that were against it.

 

[sr71plt]

This is actually what Republicans are the most afraid of now that the bill has passed; it's going to benefit a lot of people that were against it.

The real threat to the Republicans, of course, is that when people see it does benefit them, they won't be voting Republican for a good long time. (Although I think this is a stretch--I don't think many of these folks are brilliant enough to think this through--and just won't bother, will continue knee jerking.)

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

If what you say is correct you'd expect Obama to put ObamaCare into motion as soon as possible..if its THAT good. Instead we have to wait thru 2 election cycles for the fun to begin.

Another interpretation of the stock market today is, ObamaCare is doomed.

 

[PoppingTom]

Another interpretation of the stock market today is, ObamaCare is doomed.

If you can't explain this, I think this is pure Republican logic. I wasn't born to understand this...

 

[Lady_Guenivere]

Subject: The Great Thing About the Health Care Law That Has Passed? It Will Save Republican Lives, Too (An Open Letter to Republicans from Michael Moore)
Reply-To: maillist@michaelmoore.com

Monday, March 22nd, 2010

To My Fellow Citizens, the Republicans:

Thanks to last night's vote, that child of yours who has had asthma since birth will now be covered after suffering for her first nine years as an American child with a pre-existing condition....

As a person who has never known anything but a system that provides "Universal" Health Care...(came into effect the year I was born, 1968) I am confused beyond words at the resistance...Seems like a no-brainer to me...

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

If you can't explain this, I think this is pure Republican logic. I wasn't born to understand this...

I heard an insurance guy on teevee explain the stock uptick as optimism that ObamaCare is doomed.

 

[Liar]

If what you say is correct you'd expect Obama to put ObamaCare into motion as soon as possible..if its THAT good. Instead we have to wait thru 2 election cycles for the fun to begin.

T.T.T.

Put up in a place
where it's easy to see
the cryptic admonishment
T.T.T.

When you feel how depressingly
slowly you climb,
it's well to remember that
Things Take Time.

-Piet Hein

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

T.T.T.

Put up in a place
where it's easy to see
the cryptic admonishment
T.T.T.

When you feel how depressingly
slowly you climb,
it's well to remember that
Things Take Time.

-Piet Hein

Obama may not have the luxury of time. A lot depends on what the court does and November election results.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

So I was sitting watching CNN (heaven forbid) and they are running a story on how just because ObamaCare has been pasted in the House it doesn't mean it's going to be an easy road to the Prezbo's desk.

A group of Senators and Reps have vowed to not let ObamaCare out of the reconciliation process. The plan is to raise objection after objection. To offer amendment after amendment and if an amendment is voted in...the process started all over as the bill will have to be returned to the house for another vote.

Ain't American politics great!

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I imagine that in other countries, there is a lot that is hard to understand about the Republicans. We barely understand them here. They live in an imaginary world created by Fox News and reinforced by Right Wing talk radio.

What passes for a Republican today is more a centrist Democrat. The Republicans of old have all but disappeared. The only true conservatives today are actually Libertarians. And true conservatives don't believe in big government nor trying to spend your way out of a recession. You will also find most right wind talk radio host aren't Republicans.

 

[Stella_Omega]

So I was sitting watching CNN (heaven forbid) and they are running a story on how just because ObamaCare has been pasted in the House it doesn't mean it's going to be an easy road to the Prezbo's desk.

A group of Senators and Reps have vowed to not let ObamaCare out of the reconciliation process. The plan is to raise objection after objection. To offer amendment after amendment and if an amendment is voted in...the process started all over as the bill will have to be returned to the house for another vote.

Ain't American politics great!

yeah, we heard, but they can all be bought off.

 

[DeeZire]

...Ain't American politics great!

I guess that would depend on whether you want the government working for the citizens or working for the corporate interests that take advantage of the citizens.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I guess that would depend on whether you want the government working for the citizens or working for the corporate interests that take advantage of the citizens.

The only thing Government should do is what is outlined in the Constitution, one step beyond that is to far.

So tell me where in the Constitution it says that Government should control 1/6 of the countries economy? That they should mandate that I buy health insurance under penalty? Where does it say these rights belong to the federal government?

 

[Stella_Omega]

The only thing Government should do is what is outlined in the Constitution, one step beyond that is to far.

So tell me where in the Constitution it says that Government should control 1/6 of the countries economy? That they should mandate that I buy health insurance under penalty? Where does it say these rights belong to the federal government?

yeah! And where does it say that the government should take states rights away regarding children's education? Or force states to accept interracial marriages, and women's rights? or look out for the commonweal overall?

Huh, huh?

 

[jomar]

Newspapers in our country saying that the now passed health care bill is so trimmed from the original concept, that it's hard to understand that Republicans not loving this.

Because it's seen as an Obama/Democratic victory. And mid-term elections are but a moment away even though much can happen between now and November