I'm a racist!

DVS

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Did that title get your attention? I thought it might. Yep, it's true, I guess. Well, at least that is what it looks like on paper.

OK, let me start from the beginning. I was fired today. I've been in talks for several days with HR people who were asking me questions about if I ever say the N word at work, or talk down to African Americans or use urban slang terms to show I'm superior and all sorts of other nice questions.

All I could say was "no". How can I prove a negative? I didn't say those things, or act that way...PERIOD! But, today, after several days of these talks, they tell me that in the course of their investigation, they talked to "several" of those I supervised. They said each one said I used the word nxxxxr (word x'd out so not to offend) on several occasions, that I said the captain (my boss who is African American) spoke in "slave" lingo, and that I told more than one person that I thought blacks were an inferior race.

It just goes to show you that when someone says you did something or said something, whether you did it or not, it's not possible to prove a negative. How can I say I didn't say those things, if several of the people who worked under me said I did?

And the HR guy even said he can't prove they were telling the truth and that wasn't his job. He just talked to the people under me, after the initial allegations that I said something that offended one of them enough that he went to the EEOC.

I guess it doesn't matter if they happened to get together over pizza and beer and talk out what their answers would be when the HR people talked to them, so the answers would be the same. Of course, I had no idea any of them would go that far to get rid of me. Multiple people telling lies about racism just to get me fired? I had no idea. I was numb when they told me.

Of course they won't tell me who said anything, nor will they say how many they talked to. I'm just fired for making racist comments in a work environment that offended my coworkers.

Actually, I'm the least racist person I know. I don't see color unless they show their color to me, first. Yes, there are some who will use that against you, like a weapon and there are some who will use it to get a job, keep a job and I've now found out some will use it to get rid of their boss.

I know the majority of African Americans are good people. Just like caucasion people, there are some who are less than good. In both races there are those who will use what they can to get what they can. It comes easy to them to be that way. It's sad, but so true.

The HR guy said not everyone they spoke to was "of color", like that meant anything to me. What bothers me is knowing that any of them would go that far to get rid of me. Why? What did I do to them that was so bad, and why couldn't I see it in the years we worked together?

There is one guy who has been voicing his dislike for me for about a month. I mentioned it to my boss and he said to document his statements in writing. I did that and the HR people were given a copy. But, nothing was ever done about it. Now, since I've been fired, I have none of that. It's all now the property of the company.

Anyway, I don't know why I'm even speaking about this on a BDSM site. It has nothing to do with BDSM. It's just another bit of bad luck in a life that's been full of bad luck.

I'm not looking for sympathy and I'm not looking for a shoulder to cry on. I'm mad. I'm very mad. I'm mad that I'm being labeled a racist and I'm not one.

I was told I shouldn't have told the truth to the HR people. Why not? I had nothing to hide. I'm not a racist. I didn't say anything I shouldn't have. But because you can't fight it when several gang up on you and say you are one, it doesn't matter what you say. Words can't describe how I feel. Shocked doesn't fit. Flabbergasted comes close. Numb is even better. I guess the only word that fits, as far as my former employer is concerned is racist.

I'm sorry if this post offended you. It sure offended me.
 
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That really sucks in a pissed off injustice kind of way. I'm sorry that you were tagged with it.

If I were closer I'd offer to use my rusty spork on them. Or to kick them in the knee. You could totally pick.
 
Nothing is as discouraging as being accused of something you did not do.

You have my sympathy.

Someday this will be okay. Someday you'll feel better and be in a better place.
Not today, though. Today sucks.

Take care of yourself, DVS.
 
DVS, i'm soooo sorry this happened to you! :( i cannot imagine the anger and frustration, the supreme sense of injustice you must be feeling. unfortunately this world never has been and never will be fair, but i personally happen to believe in cosmic justice and karma. you will get all you deserve, as will the cowards and jerkholes who robbed you of your job...whether in this life or the next.
 
I'd go to the state people and at least try to get unemployment out of it. There has to be some procedure in place if you were wrongly terminated.
 
This is the type of thing a union could help you with. Not sure unions are the 'in' thing in the US judging by the far right stance of a lot of people on here but they do have their uses.

On a fairly similar vein although not as drastic. I voted for a very racist, anti everything really party in the UK clled the BNP at the local elections. (Not sure if the US has these but its the locals voting for local candidates to run their area).

I am one of the least racist people I know. I am very tolerant. a socialist and embrace diversity. However, I voted as a protest vote, which is my right. The protest was that I thought that there was too many immigrants being allowed into the country. I had my view that too many were diluting our country just too much for comfort. the UK is a bastard country that has been invaded countless times and many immigrants have come in over the last century BUT not to this extent.

So my protest vote in an unimportant local election has been seen by my 'friends' as though I'm Hitler's love child. Hitler salutes abound when I bring up anything to do with politics.
I think it's a warped sense of political correctness. Free speech is a long way off, or even a long time past. I am all for our cultural diversity but with limits. If people are allowed to come, and why wouldnt they if our country is so attractive, then it shouldn't be to the detriment of a country's culture and identity. Thats going too far.

Stand up brother and don't give in! there are people out there that agree with you but need a kick up the arse to get going. The stupid thing is, and these people won't care, that it will effect your outlook on life and people in a negative way. So they've hurt themselves
 
On a fairly similar vein although not as drastic. I voted for a very racist, anti everything really party in the UK clled the BNP at the local elections. (Not sure if the US has these but its the locals voting for local candidates to run their area).

You voted for a shamelessly racist party and now are surprised people think you are a racist. Well golly gee, they're just plum loco. Voting for the party who discriminate against anybody with skin darker than a peach crayon is obviously the action of an avowed anti-racist person. Nope, can't possibly see the logic behind your friends thinking you're a skeezy individual.

(p.s. yes, that was sarcasm. you voted for the bnp you dumb fuck)
 
You voted for a shamelessly racist party and now are surprised people think you are a racist. Well golly gee, they're just plum loco. Voting for the party who discriminate against anybody with skin darker than a peach crayon is obviously the action of an avowed anti-racist person. Nope, can't possibly see the logic behind your friends thinking you're a skeezy individual.

(p.s. yes, that was sarcasm. you voted for the bnp you dumb fuck)

Well, actually they're not just racist but homophobic too. And what other ics there are. See, i knew all about what they stood for as I read up on their policies and knew that if they recieved increased votes it would scare the bigger parties.

As the BNP started to gain support over the country, the top three parties started to take note and eventually brought in concrete imigration policies and cut down on making the UK hit 70 million in 10 years.
So perhaps this dumb fuck, used his vote wisely and didn't veto the vote that all our ancestors fought hard to win for us. Unlike 40/50% of our population who can't even be bothered to vote yet moan there arse off no matter who gets in.
 
Sorry to hear news about your job DVS. I hAd a very similar problem where i work.....it was like a hostile work envirnoment with co-workers createing drama and lies about each other until it got to the point that I just had to report this to HR. I just knew that HR would be appreciative since they say all the time to report such incidents but when i did, everything turned on me...co-workers, management, blah blah...but what saved me was that I had been documenting everything for a year and keeping them ina safe place so when HR said basically what your coworkers were doing to you, to me. I went to EEOC!...The EEOC stated that because of my extensvie documentation , they could see that i had legit issues, so they agreed to take the case and even pay for it BUT they needed to let me know that if i accepted their help that the company that i am working for would surely let me go(my State is a 'just cause' State) and would i be able to make aliving while the case went to court?(the company would surely put a warning to all companies to not hire me). And as for HR, HR for any company is not,, repeat NOT ofr the employee but ensure that the company is not sued for any reason. It sounds like you were terminated due to ' political correctness'. I hope that you and others reading this, document any issues foir yourself in case that there are isssues that happen that affected you as I....You sound like a person who was a supervisor who went by the rules and the coworkers wanted to play and prove that they are still owed for the 450 years........is that racist?....just real...
 
I should add that after I won the EEOC lawsuit.....i have some money saved plus created two different companies...


do I still get those hugs Furry?...:devil:
 
...The stupid thing is, and these people won't care, that it will effect your outlook on life and people in a negative way. So they've hurt themselves
Yes, it has already had a negative effect on my outlook on life. It hasn't only hurt them, it has hurt me. Because of this, I won't be as open with coworkers as I have been, for fear it could happen again. And because of that, I won't enjoy my job as much. I'll also look at people in a totally different light, from now on.

I have a friend who works for the state. He's a prison guard. He said you'd be totally amazed at how bad the state's prisons are run. He said in his particular prison, the inmates rule the place, in a round about way. He's been a guard for nearly 15 years, and is about ready to retire. He's never had the urge to be a supervisor because he's seen how they are treated by management. Scapegoats is the word he used.

He mentioned a new electronic system that was installed in the prison a couple of years ago. At the time, they said it was light years ahead of what they had and took out a perfectly good working system to install this new one.

He said it has never worked correctly, and has slowly progressed to the point it causes errors six to eight times a night (he works the night shift). This system not only controls the locks on the doors, but it is also the fire alarm system. He said there are times when they have to move prisoners from point A to point B and a series of locking doors must work to make this happen safely.

Sometimes something strange happens and some doors refuse to lock. Sometimes all doors lock which locks guards in areas where they are alone with prisoners or in what's called traps, where there is a hallway with a locking door on each end. effectively, one end of the trap isn't suppose to unlock until the other has been locked. This keeps prisoners from rushing the doors and escaping in mass. Of course, the prisoners all think the whole thing is quite humorous, when things go wrong and guards are locked in traps, etc.

False fire alarms go off several times a night. When this happens, the system turns fans off in some areas causing the heat to turn off in parts of the prison. In the bubble, where the control area is, all of the heat is turned up, so prisoners freeze and guards bake.

There are directions on how to reset the system, but they rarely work. This has all been reported numerous times, but nobody wants to take blame for purchasing the stupid system so it just continues in this way, every night.

He also said that because this system is intertwined with their normal door locking system, when they lock a door which should take about 1 second to happen, sometimes it takes up to 15 seconds, because all of the false alarms have used up the available memory in the computer. Normal door lock operations are sluggish because of this.

Prisoners have started complaining that the guards are turning the heat off on purpose, and so last night, a supervisor came to talk to the guards on the night shift. They were told of the situation where the prisoners are accusing them of turning the heat off. They were also told to document every instance where the system fails, including date, time, what failed, what happened instead and the name of the guard reporting.

My friend said it now sounds like they are going to accuse the guards of operator error. Why would they need this documentation? They've been aware for over a year that the system fails. he said it's just more bureaucratic bull shit because nobody wants to say the system doesn't work. Now, if it doesn't work it's because the guards are at fault.

My friend suggested to his supervisor to fire all of the guards. He said he only has a couple of years before he can retire with a good pension. he said he could live on unemployment for a couple of years before the pension would kick in.

Of course, he didn't mean what he said, but he just wanted to see the reaction of his supervisor. My friend knows nothing will be fixed with the system. Soon, spring will be here and then summer. The prisoners won't complain again until next winter. By then, maybe the person who purchased the stupid new system will have retired himself and living off a good pension.

Oh, my friend works in a medium security prison run by the state of Missouri. There is also a maximum and a minimum security prison on the same campus, but my friend isn't aware if these prisons are having the same problems or not.:rolleyes:
 
Sorry to hear news about your job DVS. I hAd a very similar problem where i work.....it was like a hostile work envirnoment with co-workers createing drama and lies about each other until it got to the point that I just had to report this to HR. I just knew that HR would be appreciative since they say all the time to report such incidents but when i did, everything turned on me...co-workers, management, blah blah...but what saved me was that I had been documenting everything for a year and keeping them ina safe place so when HR said basically what your coworkers were doing to you, to me. I went to EEOC!...The EEOC stated that because of my extensvie documentation , they could see that i had legit issues, so they agreed to take the case and even pay for it BUT they needed to let me know that if i accepted their help that the company that i am working for would surely let me go(my State is a 'just cause' State) and would i be able to make aliving while the case went to court?(the company would surely put a warning to all companies to not hire me). And as for HR, HR for any company is not,, repeat NOT ofr the employee but ensure that the company is not sued for any reason. It sounds like you were terminated due to ' political correctness'. I hope that you and others reading this, document any issues foir yourself in case that there are isssues that happen that affected you as I....You sound like a person who was a supervisor who went by the rules and the coworkers wanted to play and prove that they are still owed for the 450 years........is that racist?....just real...
Scary, but this sounds very familiar. It's also sad, too. There are good people out there. Only the few are crazy enough to do this kind of shit.

Now, since this has happened, I can imagine the feeling of these workers towards their new supervisor. He hasn't got a chance.
 
How r u doing these day DVS?....found employment?....and yes the trust factor will NEVER be the same......as for your friend,, is he interested in being a whistle blower for the State?

as for the coworkers and all that garbage..it is the Managements fault since they wish to ENABLE the issue instead of fixing the problem...but that is where our society is these days...political correctness..

and as for the good people ,,yeah there certainly are but if they dont speak up themselves , then they are cowards as well and just as bad,, since they enable
 
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I'd go to the state people and at least try to get unemployment out of it. There has to be some procedure in place if you were wrongly terminated.
I was fired. I should be able to get unemployment. But unemployment won't pay my bills or won't pay for my meds. Unemployment will be about $600 shy of doing me any good. I need a job and I need one NOW!

Anybody need a professional Dom? I'm very good at my job. :D
 
How r u doing these day DVS?....found employment?....and yes the trust factor will NEVER be the same......as for your friend,, is he interested in being a whistle blower for the State?

as for the coworkers and all that garbage..it is the Managements fault since they wish to ENABLE the issue instead of fixing the problem...but that is where our society is these days...political correctness..

and as for the good people ,,yeah there certainly are but if they dont speak up themselves , then they are cowards as well and just as bad,, since they enable
A lot of this is very true. But as for my friend, he only has 2 years before he retires with a good pension. I think he's probably in the coward category.

Actually, he's no coward, but it's sometimes just common sense. I think I'd be the same way, if I were in his position. Live and let live, then take the money and run! Sometimes being the good guy only gets you more grief. Why take a chance, if you're that close to being out of the rat race?
 
i wasnt referrig to your friend...just about people who always complain but never do anything about it....

as for prison guard,,i was one as well years back and yes....it is screwed up ..but there are those benefits..........ya know what i mean?
 
i wasnt referrig to your friend...just about people who always complain but never do anything about it....

as for prison guard,,i was one as well years back and yes....it is screwed up ..but there are those benefits..........ya know what i mean?
Oh, no problem about that. I was the one who was referring to my friend. I do think he could have said something to someone about the system not working, but because he's so close to his pension, I don't blame him for just letting the ship sink on its own. He can swim for a couple more years when his retirement is due.

Would I call him a coward? No, because I think he would be more likely to say something, if the times were different. We all are who we are because of what we've been through in life.

I'm no different. I've been changed by this experience...an not in a good way, I'm afraid. This will gnaw at the pit of my stomach for quite a while.
 
I'm so sorry, DVS. I hope, though, that this is the beginning of some better times for you. :rose:
 
To make it a lifestyle a Dom can't simply keep their desires confined to one interpersonal Slave Contract. Racism, sexism, and xenophobia are natural characteristics of any dominant worldview.
 
To make it a lifestyle a Dom can't simply keep their desires confined to one interpersonal Slave Contract. Racism, sexism, and xenophobia are natural characteristics of any dominant worldview.

...I hope that just got posted in the wrong topic, because that sounds dangerously like an accusation that all Doms are racist, sexist and xenophobic to some degree or another. And, in common parlance, that shit don't fly.
 
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