I'm a racist!

[graceanne]

You should do some detective work. Anyway, all Doms are racist, sexist, and/or xenophobic before they enter into the lifestyle. The lifestyle choice is just the superficial topping on top of the racist, sexist, xenophobic pie that is the man or woman who finds the role of dominant appealing.

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Am I just the slightest bit vindictive? Maybe. But I'll talk to the lawyer first.

I would. You wouldn't want anything to bite you in the ass. And I'm not even suggesting suing, although if you did that would be fine. I'm more worried about you turning around and protecting you ass so this doesn't continue to bite you in the ass down the road. For one thing, not doing anything could be interpreted as an admission of guilt.

 

[DVS]

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I would. You wouldn't want anything to bite you in the ass. And I'm not even suggesting suing, although if you did that would be fine. I'm more worried about you turning around and protecting you ass so this doesn't continue to bite you in the ass down the road. For one thing, not doing anything could be interpreted as an admission of guilt.

Exactly! I understand what everybody is saying about not going to the client, but I'm not really wanting to do that just for my sake. I know things have been pushed under the carpet and this affects the security of his bank. Well, not HIS bank, but he's head of corporate security.

Guards sleeping on the job, not adhering to the client's desires in how they conduct themselves. Sometimes the guards don't even shave before work. Did I write them up? No...I supplied them with razors to shave at work. One of the minor things is they talk on the bank phone to whoever instead of doing their job of watching cameras.

They've all been told and actually signed a statement saying they would not do these things and if they did they were subject to disciplinary action which could include suspension and even termination. They still do these things, and that was what got me labeled as a snitch because I pointed these things out to my superiors.

The sleeping wasn't addressed as it should have been so this guy still sleeps on the job. Sure, he has another full time job, three daughters and is going to online school, too. But, he's employed to do a job and he's getting paid for it. Part of the job does not include falling asleep.

I wrote him up first and he said he had a cold and was having trouble fighting off the meds he was taking. I suggested something like some coffee or tea to counter the meds and he agreed to try that.

I was told by several of the other guards he was working with (yes, the very same guards that ganged up on me) that he was still sleeping and they thought he should be fired or at least removed from the post. I personally hadn't seen him sleeping, so I could only take their word for it, mark down times and tell the captain.

There are cameras watching the guards while they sit at the consoles, so everything is seen. One console has 3 cameras watching every move they make. These cameras are bank cameras, but we had access to seeing them, too.

I told the captain what the guards were saying and when he looked at the camera, he saw this guy out like a light. So, the captain called him in and wrote him up for it. The guy had the nerve to fight with the captain that it should be a verbal warning and not a written write up because it was the first time the captain had written him up for sleeping.

Yes, the captain let him have it as a verbal and this guy said he would not sleep on the job again. That very night, he was sleeping again and the other guards "snitched" on him to me again. I could sense when he was talking on the radio that he had just been awakened by my call or someone else's call. This continued and the captain wrote him up again.

In my opinion, the captain was giving this guy too many breaks and the other guards were not happy, because they were staying awake. And they would get written up for the things they did and threatened with termination, too. Of course, write ups became a laugh among the guards and they still are, all because of the way that situation has been handled.

The last time the captain wrote this guy up for sleeping, he showed him sleeping on camera and how bad it looked. The captain said it was his last final warning. Yes, I wrote that just like he said it. It was his last final warning.

He said from that point on, it was all on him. He also said if the client had looked at the camera and seen him sleeping, he would have been fired. Well DUH! Actually, if the client had looked at the camera, he could have very well fired the whole bunch of us because he could look back and see the multiple times this guy was sleeping and nothing had been done.

There were times when the other guards were telling me that they would be sitting beside him and he'd be snoring. I asked why they didn't say anything to me at the time and they would always say, "I'm not his supervisor."

This is just a small snippet of what happens on our shift. And the second shift isn't much better, except that the supervisors on that shift are friends with their guards so they cover for everybody. The first shift can do no wrong, because that's the captain's shift. And it is true that they all do pretty well, but there are times when they mess up just as badly as someone on my shift and nothing was said to them. My shift would hear about this and think there was a double standard...which there was.

I could go on and on. These are just minor things. But the client should know that these things are going on. I haven't mentioned the anonymous emails that have been sent to my employer stating they saw me not doing my job. I was pulled into the office and questioned as if I was a criminal, because of some stranger's emails. They didn't even check to see if this person was who he said he was. I requested the I.P. address of the emails and they refused, saying it was a dead issue.

Yes, I want that I.P. address so I can see who this guy is. But it will take a court order to find out who the person is. I'm thinking it was one of the guys who worked for me, just trying to make trouble for me. The emails were sent about six months ago and the second one mentioned the client's name. There is no way a stranger could have found out this man's name. The email says I told him this guy was head of corporate security and should speak to him.

This email is a fake, but whoever sent it wasn't smart enough to check to see if the client's name was available to strangers. It's not possible to find out anybody's name in corporate security, without going into their office. And nobody can just go into their office without reason.

The client doesn't know about these emails and I think he should know what's going on in his bank, and who's throwing his name around to cause trouble.

Of course, I'll talk to the lawyer first, and even explain this to him and let him decide what I should do. But, I'm not restricted from going into the bank except when my shift is working. It's a public place during the day. If necessary, I could open an account and they couldn't do anything about keeping me out after that.

Yes, I'm vindictive. Yes, I'm pissed. But, I can control my emotions and do this in the way it should be done. But, I think I'm failing the client if he isn't told some of these things are happening. All I'd really have to do is suggest he look at the cameras on certain days, at certain times. Well, that would get his attention at least. Then, I could hit him with the emails.

 

[00Syd]

I'm so sorry that this happened to you.

 

[culloden]

This sucks.

"And the HR guy even said he can't prove they were telling the truth and that wasn't his job. He just talked to the people under me, after the initial allegations that I said something that offended one of them enough that he went to the EEOC."

If there was a formal EEOC complaint filed against you, I should think you would have the right to see it. Did you ask the HR folks that question? OTOH, maybe it's better your lawyer ask.

Good luck.

 

[DVS]

This sucks.

"And the HR guy even said he can't prove they were telling the truth and that wasn't his job. He just talked to the people under me, after the initial allegations that I said something that offended one of them enough that he went to the EEOC."

If there was a formal EEOC complaint filed against you, I should think you would have the right to see it. Did you ask the HR folks that question? OTOH, maybe it's better your lawyer ask.

Good luck.

Yes, the HR people wouldn't tell me who was saying these things about me and he said what caused them to decide to terminate me (actually he said separate employment with me) was the fact that they talked to several of them individually (wouldn't even tell me how many several was) and when asked the same questions, they replied in similar fashion, meaning they all said (1) I talked down to blacks, (2) said NxxxxR out loud on several occasions, (3) mentioned one African American officer by his name and said he was dumb or stupid (depending on the specific question asked), (4) I frequently used ghetto or urban slang to show that I was superior to them and (5) I said the captain (who is African American) talked like a slave, whatever that means. He said that because they all answered similarly and because they weren't all "of color" that was what lead them to believe they were telling the truth.

Well, I've left a message for a lawyer to call me. He used to be a county prosecuting attorney so I think he should be a good guy to ask about this stuff. And, I've still got another friend who's a county judge to run this past, too. I think I'll probably get some pretty good information from them.

As far as the EEOC goes, I was told one of the employees went and filed a complaint but that there was no specific person's name on it, just that it mentioned one of his supervisors. But, I'll let the lawyer take care of that, too.

 

[culloden]

Again. Sounds like a case of political correctness run amok at best. At worst, it seems like a deliberate attempt to railroad you, and perhaps racism on the part of your accusers.

I'm not someone who expects the courts to resolve every little difference either, but I think you're doing the right thing in talking to a lawyer. You've been caused real harm.

 

[Etoile]

Indeed...don't let it go. The easy thing is to move on. Don't.

 

[Netzach]

So basically there's multiracial coalition of shitheads there and one of them wants that job bad enough. People are dicks. Definitely get together with the lawyer.

There is also a possibility that a lot of this is smoke being blown up your ass by the supervisor - if you can't get a copy of the complaint how do you know for a fact there is one, even? How do you KNOW who he talked to or didn't? A lot of this could be unadulterated bullshit, and if you're a right to work state you're supposed to just shrug it off and go oh well. Don't do that. "any reason or no reason at all" is one thing, harm to your reputation is another.

Again, lawyer. If there's a complaint they should have no trouble getting their hands on it.

 

[DVS]

So basically there's multiracial coalition of shitheads there and one of them wants that job bad enough. People are dicks. Definitely get together with the lawyer.

There is also a possibility that a lot of this is smoke being blown up your ass by the supervisor - if you can't get a copy of the complaint how do you know for a fact there is one, even? How do you KNOW who he talked to or didn't? A lot of this could be unadulterated bullshit, and if you're a right to work state you're supposed to just shrug it off and go oh well. Don't do that. "any reason or no reason at all" is one thing, harm to your reputation is another.

Again, lawyer. If there's a complaint they should have no trouble getting their hands on it.

A multiracial coalition of shitheads is a pretty correct way to explain these guys, I guess. But, none of them will be offered the supervisor's job, I can pretty much say that.

All of them have done enough to show they aren't supervisor material long before this all started. That's one thing the company did right. These guys were all complainers of one stupid thing or another, and complainers go only so far in management's eyes.

After a little complaining, it's just seen as a nuisance. One might get the second supervisor job, but he will have to apply for it. The present second supervisor that was under me will move up to my spot.

Missouri is an employment at will state. That means either party can break the employment connection for no reason at all as well as with no notice.

Most employers don't fire someone for no reason though, because they often get sued for it. It's just better business to have a reason, even if you have to create one, just so the fired employee has no real legs to stand on in court.

My supervisor (the captain) was required to to talk to HR, as was the other supervisor that worked under me. The three of us were in the initial talking stage. HR said because the complaint at the EEOC didn't say which supervisor was the "problem" (From reading info on the EEOC web site, I thought they had to be more specific than that), we all had to go down and talk. I haven't asked for a copy of the complaint from the EEOC. That will be something to think about, if and when I get a lawyer.

After the initial talks continued, I guess my name came through as the culprit. HR said my name was mentioned by all of those under me that they talked to. Shit, maybe even the other supervisor (he's white) was naming me, to keep his ass clean.

Because he moves up to the head guy, he might see that as a plus. But with a group like that and how they must feel with what they've now accomplished, his life expectancy isn't very long. Either he allows them to run the shift as they see fit, or he might be the next one labeled racist.

As far as the complaint being real, I'm not sure of anything right now. I wasn't told anything specific so I don't know if there ever was a complaint, if there ever was anybody saying I said those things, nor was I allowed to see or speak to the complainers to counter their claims. Like I said in another post, they wouldn't even tell me how many "several" was, when I asked how many they talked to.

I was just asked questions by the HR people, and these were very vague questions that didn't specify any person or date or time of day. The only common factor in each question was "did you ever "xyz" during work or while on the job?" Sometimes they added "do you know of someone else that did?"

In my opinion, nobody was making racial comments. At least not when I was around. But one question I was asked was a little specific. The HR guy set up the question by saying "it seems there was a conversation going on between at least two employees as to what was correct to say and what wasn't. They were speaking about the N word but not with the ER on the end, but one term ended with RA and one ended with A or maybe it could be spelled AH.

Both of these were versions of the word, but the discussion was trying to decide if either of those words were actually saying the N word. Then he said I came into the room, heard them discussing the terms and said "oh, you mean NxxxxR?" Now, that is very much a lie, but with all of the other statements they made, it just fell into place with me being a racist. And it seems I must really enjoy the label, too.

I don't care if they have six multiracial people that say I said anything racial. I know I didn't, and they have to prove that I did. The burden is going to be on them, whoever "them" might be.

The company HR will say they are off the hook because they just took everybody's statements and followed the rules by believing the people who gave the same answers. When the statements all lean one way, they must be the telling the truth, right? LOL.

If I decide to sue, my lawyer will have to find out the names of those who gave statements against me so they can be called into court to prove themselves. And this time, they will be legally held accountable for what they say.

And I'm just waiting for the lawyer to call me back so I can find out just what is possible. Interesting enough, this lawyer's home is a downtown loft, less than a block from where a lot of this racial shit was suppose to have taken place.

 

[MasterPhoenix]

I almost got fired from a job once because a colleague wanted me out of the way. Someone I was 'friends' with. Had hung out for drinks after work.

I got talked to by a manager once because a coworker went to him about a bad joke. It was done in private, and also was someone I had hung out with after work. Instead of manning up and saying, hey bro, not cool. I told the manager the story and he laughed...

Since then I have been very much about keeping to myself during work hours, and thinking back on this makes me happy I work independently these days.

Fight on, my friend!

 

[DVS]

Oh, just for clarification purposes, I forgot one of the questions they asked me. I was asked if I called Officer XXXXX white trash. Now, I consider myself a member of the white trash group, and before now, I've never thought of this as a racial statement. If I did call this officer white trash, I'm sure I included myself in that group at the time I said it. And last I heard, white trash by far isn't a racial slur that is considered as offensive as the N word is.

And how could I be slandering him with a white racial slur if I'm white? I guess he could be offended by just hearing the term. That's like an African American calling another African American the N word, in what some of them see it as "a term of affection". That brings up the question of why it's OK for them to use the N word amongst themselves, but nobody else can. I don't think anybody should use the N word.

I know I was called a cracker by the African American who supposedly went to the EEOC about me. But at the time, I didn't see it as him saying it as a slur, but as a joke. If I were totally PC about things, I could have said something, but I didn't think it was out of line.

After what's happened and seeing how some people get offended very easily, because I didn't mention it, I could be in trouble, too. Maybe he offended another white guard that overheard his statement. And being his supervisor, because I didn't admonish him for his choice of words, I could be in hot water with HR. Actually, I think my job could have been in jeopardy, too. God, I think we're all just a little too PC.

Just FYI, we all might reconsider how we reference people who don't understand our BDSM sexual ways. The term vanilla is on the list as a white racial slur. We all had better hold our tongues from now on.

When I lived in Atlanta, I frequented a soul food place quite often. It was in Decatur, actually. The menu was up on the wall, behind the counter. And instead of white bread, the menu said whitie bread. Was I offended? No. I actually thought it was pretty funny.

Of course that was back in the 70s, and I don't know if the same place even exists today. I even commented to the waitress about it being funny and we laughed together. She was African American. Do you think this would be possible, today?

When we tell a lie that we consider to be necessary so not to hurt someone we call it a white lie. So, when we really mean to lie to some one, and maybe to hurt them by keeping the truth from them, is it called a black lie?

When talking about light, white is the presence of all color and black is the absence of all color. But when talking about pigment, black is the presence of all color and white is the absence of all color. The art world will surely be confused if the PC movement gets into their field.

A lighted room is considered to be warm and friendly. But an unlighted room is considered dark and dreary. Yes, I know I'm taking this to the extreme when I ask this but someday in our future, will it be necessary to change how we describe things just so we're politically correct?

And yes, I guess this event has gotten to me, just a little.

 

[graceanne]

Kung Pao Buckaroo Holiday

And now the grand old opera theater proudly presents
a special holiday edition of the Adventures of the Kung Pao Buckaroos

Well, it’s a Kung Pao Buckaroo Holiday
Whatever you do watch what you say
If you’re easily offended well that’s okay
It’s a completely non-offensive and politically correct holiday

We catch up with our three cowboys one cold
December night huddled around the camp fire.

How ‘bout we sing some holiday songs?
Yeah, hey George, you wanna lead us off?
Yeah, I got one.

Oh Chri-biip-mas tree oh Chri-biip-mas tree how lovely are thy branches…

Why am I getting blipped again?
Haven’t you heard guys? You can’t say Chri-biip-mas you gotta say Holiday
I can’t say Chri-biip-mas?
No you might offend somebody.
Who is offended by Chri-biip-mas?
You know you might offend the biiiip and the biiiip and the atheists.
What?
Time to politically correct.

I’ll lead this off.

On the first day of Chri-biip-mas my true love sent to me…

Jimmy, are you listening?
What?
You can’t say Chri-biip-mas.
Why not?
You can say biiiip on the last record.
Why can’t I say Chri-biip-mas?
I didn’t make the rules.
Hey listen guys, it’s not that difficult,
all you gotta do is change Chri-biip-mas to Holiday.
You know, instead of saying white Chri-biip-mas, you say
I’m dreaming of a whi-biiip Holiday.
Why did I get blipped?
You’ve got to say Caucasian.
So I have to sing, I’m dreaming of a Caucasian holiday?
Sure, that won’t offend anybody.

Well, it’s a Kung Pao Buckaroo Holiday,
Whatever you do watch what you say
If you’re easily offended well that’s okay

Why do these people have to feel that way?
How come they get offended so easily?

It’s a completely non-offensive and politically correct holiday

I’m just trying to come up with a song here.
Let’s sing one together, everybody ready? George?
Ready.
Bill your ready?
I’m ready.
Jimmy? Jimmy? Jimmy?
Okay!

We three kings of biiiiiiiiip are bearing gifts we’ve traveled really far….

Sorry boys, you have to say Asia now.
What?
Oh, come on just try.
I've gotta get hyped up for this,

We three kings of Asia are….

That sounds like horse biiiip
Oh lord, okay. How ‘bout Little Drummer boy?
Nope, that offends short people.
And you can’t say drummer ‘cause that will offend real musicians.

How ‘bout little –hahaha- town of Bethlehem?
What’s this with all the short jokes?

Hey how ‘bout we do Silent Night?
No, 'Cause it offends people hard of hearin' and afraid of the dark.
What did he say about a shark?
SHARK?

This happens every year.

Well, it’s a Kung Pao Buckaroo Holiday,
Whatever you do watch what you say,
If you’re easily offended well that’s okay,
It’s a completely non-offensive and politically correct holiday.

Hohoho!
No.
I can’t say ho?
No you might offend some women.
So basically we can’t sing anything?

I think that a bunch of bull biiiip.
Softer George it’s more effective.
I think that a bunch of bull biiiip.
You now what? I don’t care who we offend,
I’m gonna sing Chri-biip-mas carols if I wanna sing Chri-biip-mas carols.
Louder Bill it’s more effective.
I don’t care who we offend,
I’m gonna sing Chri-biip-mas carols if I wanna sing Chri-biip-mas carols.
Me too.

We wish you a merry Chri-biip-mas, we wish you a merry Chri-biip-mas,
we wish you a merry Chri-biip-mas, and a happy ne-biip year.

you can’t say new; it’ll offend the old folks.
And you better not offend them.
Us.
Yeeaahhh

 

[DVS]

Wow, that was great! Oh, and politically correct, too. Thanks.

I found the video, too!

Cool, this one has hand puppets. Hope they're PC puppets.

Kung Pao Buckaroo Holiday

And now the grand old opera theater proudly presents
a special holiday edition of the Adventures of the Kung Pao Buckaroos

Well, it’s a Kung Pao Buckaroo Holiday
Whatever you do watch what you say
If you’re easily offended well that’s okay
It’s a completely non-offensive and politically correct holiday

We catch up with our three cowboys one cold
December night huddled around the camp fire.

How ‘bout we sing some holiday songs?
Yeah, hey George, you wanna lead us off?
Yeah, I got one.

Oh Chri-biip-mas tree oh Chri-biip-mas tree how lovely are thy branches…

Why am I getting blipped again?
Haven’t you heard guys? You can’t say Chri-biip-mas you gotta say Holiday
I can’t say Chri-biip-mas?
No you might offend somebody.
Who is offended by Chri-biip-mas?
You know you might offend the biiiip and the biiiip and the atheists.
What?
Time to politically correct.

I’ll lead this off.

On the first day of Chri-biip-mas my true love sent to me…

Jimmy, are you listening?
What?
You can’t say Chri-biip-mas.
Why not?
You can say biiiip on the last record.
Why can’t I say Chri-biip-mas?
I didn’t make the rules.
Hey listen guys, it’s not that difficult,
all you gotta do is change Chri-biip-mas to Holiday.
You know, instead of saying white Chri-biip-mas, you say
I’m dreaming of a whi-biiip Holiday.
Why did I get blipped?
You’ve got to say Caucasian.
So I have to sing, I’m dreaming of a Caucasian holiday?
Sure, that won’t offend anybody.

Well, it’s a Kung Pao Buckaroo Holiday,
Whatever you do watch what you say
If you’re easily offended well that’s okay

Why do these people have to feel that way?
How come they get offended so easily?

It’s a completely non-offensive and politically correct holiday

I’m just trying to come up with a song here.
Let’s sing one together, everybody ready? George?
Ready.
Bill your ready?
I’m ready.
Jimmy? Jimmy? Jimmy?
Okay!

We three kings of biiiiiiiiip are bearing gifts we’ve traveled really far….

Sorry boys, you have to say Asia now.
What?
Oh, come on just try.
I've gotta get hyped up for this,

We three kings of Asia are….

That sounds like horse biiiip
Oh lord, okay. How ‘bout Little Drummer boy?
Nope, that offends short people.
And you can’t say drummer ‘cause that will offend real musicians.

How ‘bout little –hahaha- town of Bethlehem?
What’s this with all the short jokes?

Hey how ‘bout we do Silent Night?
No, 'Cause it offends people hard of hearin' and afraid of the dark.
What did he say about a shark?
SHARK?

This happens every year.

Well, it’s a Kung Pao Buckaroo Holiday,
Whatever you do watch what you say,
If you’re easily offended well that’s okay,
It’s a completely non-offensive and politically correct holiday.

Hohoho!
No.
I can’t say ho?
No you might offend some women.
So basically we can’t sing anything?

I think that a bunch of bull biiiip.
Softer George it’s more effective.
I think that a bunch of bull biiiip.
You now what? I don’t care who we offend,
I’m gonna sing Chri-biip-mas carols if I wanna sing Chri-biip-mas carols.
Louder Bill it’s more effective.
I don’t care who we offend,
I’m gonna sing Chri-biip-mas carols if I wanna sing Chri-biip-mas carols.
Me too.

We wish you a merry Chri-biip-mas, we wish you a merry Chri-biip-mas,
we wish you a merry Chri-biip-mas, and a happy ne-biip year.

you can’t say new; it’ll offend the old folks.
And you better not offend them.
Us.
Yeeaahhh

 

[graceanne]

Wow, that was great! Oh, and politically correct, too. Thanks.

I found the video, too!

Cool, this one has hand puppets. Hope they're PC puppets.

The first time I hear that on the radio I had to pull my car over I was laughing so hard.

 

[graceanne]

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=33337416&postcount=18

 

[DVS]

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=33337416&postcount=18

Thanks guys. I'm starting to feel a little better. For the record, I don't care for wine, that much. I guess that's the PC way?

Still waiting for the lawyer to call back, though. He had the hots for my sister in high school. You'd think that should mean something!

 

[culloden]

Thanks guys. I'm starting to feel a little better. For the record, I don't care for wine, that much. I guess that's the PC way?

Still waiting for the lawyer to call back, though. He had the hots for my sister in high school. You'd think that should mean something!

If he's a good lawyer, he ain't working Sundays. Wait - is it pc to take Sundays off? It's blipian sabbath.

I am so tired of PC. It drives me crazy to be so worried that for the the purpose of demonstration we write n****r when what we mean is nigger, and everybody with two brain cells knows what we mean. And that it's okay to write cracker, instead of c*****r. And that some people may have just labeled me a racist because of what I wrote here, when they have no idea of my actual views.

You know, sometimes people get offended. And yet they live.

Rant over. Back to your thread.

 

[DVS]

If he's a good lawyer, he ain't working Sundays. Wait - is it pc to take Sundays off? It's blipian sabbath.

I am so tired of PC. It drives me crazy to be so worried that for the the purpose of demonstration we write n****r when what we mean is nigger, and everybody with two brain cells knows what we mean. And that it's okay to write cracker, instead of c*****r. And that some people may have just labeled me a racist because of what I wrote here, when they have no idea of my actual views.

You know, sometimes people get offended. And yet they live.

Rant over. Back to your thread.

There's no set date when he might call. I thought it might be yesterday, but it wasn't. This lawyer is one I went to high school with, and made it big. Actually, he knows my sister better, because he was in her class. She had his home number.

 

[culloden]

There's no set date when he might call. I thought it might be yesterday, but it wasn't. This lawyer is one I went to high school with, and made it big. Actually, he knows my sister better, because he was in her class. She had his home number.

Makes sense.

 

[Netzach]

I don't think PC is the issue. I think humans acting like effing Lord of the Flies is the issue. PC would be the issue if anything derogatory was actually said, which it wasn't.

White trash is a term I'd probably avoid in a professional context, but it's certainly not something I think anyone should lose a job over.

 

[MasterPhoenix]

Here's one for your DVS.

Everyone's a little bit racist Its some satire.

I fucking hate political correctness... and it is just a way to limit free speech...

 

[culloden]

I don't think PC is the issue. I think humans acting like effing Lord of the Flies is the issue. PC would be the issue if anything derogatory was actually said, which it wasn't.

White trash is a term I'd probably avoid in a professional context, but it's certainly not something I think anyone should lose a job over.

You could be right. The Orwellian nature of PC annoys me to no end, and I tend to over-react to any suggestion of it. That said, I think the word cracker came up, but don't see anyone getting fired over that. Nor do I believe they should, but it feels like a double standard.

The whole thing offends my sense of fairness. While I understand it's not a right in a private employment situation, a person should be allowed to face his accusers.

And what's wrong with white trash? It describes a bunch of my forbears.

 

[Homburg]

First, I'm really sorry this happened to you. It's a shit situation, and, wow, I'd be hard pressed to hold back the Fist of Doom in your situation.

Second, in regards to talking to the client, did you sign any Non-Compete or Non-Disclosure Agreements when you took the job? While I don't work security these days, I did years ago, and I have something of a similar arrangement where my company is contracted to provide services to third-parties. In my case, I've got all sorts of Non-Compete Clauses, Non-Disclosure Agreements and the like. I'm surprised they didn't want them signed in blood. If a similar situation occurred, I would get nailed to the wall civilly should I try to talk to a client about business practices. That would violate both NCC's and NDA's.

Even if you did not sign anything like that, you can still get sued for that sort of thing in that you willfully damaged their business with "unsupported allegations", and all sorts of other legal rigamarole.

So be very careful before you make that phone call.

 

[Netzach]

You could be right. The Orwellian nature of PC annoys me to no end, and I tend to over-react to any suggestion of it. That said, I think the word cracker came up, but don't see anyone getting fired over that. Nor do I believe they should, but it feels like a double standard.

The whole thing offends my sense of fairness. While I understand it's not a right in a private employment situation, a person should be allowed to face his accusers.

And what's wrong with white trash? It describes a bunch of my forbears.

I think a professional setting should be that - professional. If you want a space to give your self-professed white trash buddies a ribbing that is what bars are for. This of course should apply goose and gander to "nigga" as well - there are as many black folks who don't want to hear that shit as there are who are comfortable with it and at work the most uptight among us should pretty much be left to work in an environment that doesn't flip them out. Within reason.

I guess I'm just a pc asshole.

There is no free speech at work. Come on, anyone who's ever had a job knows this.

If there was I'd have said all KINDS of things about payscale, stupidity, and anything I wanted all day long.

What's happening here is, as I see it, a deliberate dick move involving lies about a co-worker to get him fired.

 

[chy_girl]

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Even if you did not sign anything like that, you can still get sued for that sort of thing in that you willfully damaged their business with "unsupported allegations", and all sorts of other legal rigamarole.

So be very careful before you make that phone call.

But how can it be unsupported if the client can pull up his own video and see the contracted workers not doing their jobs?

All DVS would be doing is suggesting the client take a look at some of the footage.