haiti earthquake.

[Saint Peter]

With more forced "socialism!"





Don't ever expect anyone to lie in the bed they made! MEANIE!!!

I thought Jesus was going to take care of all the dirty work.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Obama is a gift from God.

He will correct over two-hundred years of waste and abuse, and set us on the right path.

Being a young man, I hope he can bring the blessings of his vision not just to all of the U.S. but to the entire world as well. Where would we be without this giant among men?

Are you for real?



He's not Jesus...
__________________

"Why are you here?"

"To get some money."

"What kind of money?"

"Obama money."

"Where's it coming from?

"Obama."

"And where did Obama get it?"

"I don't know... his stash, I don't know. I don't know where he got it from, but he's givin' it t'us to help us. We love him. That's why we voted for him... Obama! Obama!"

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

I thought Jesus was going to take care of all the dirty work.

No, it appears that its supposed to be Barack...




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"[T]he principle of equality is most acclaimed by those who expect to gain more than they lose from an equal distribution of goods. Here is a fertile field for the demagogue. Whoever stirs up the resentment of the poor against the rich can count on securing a big audience."
Ludwig Heinrich Edler von Mises

 

[butters]

That's why we don't give a shit.

You have a President now who thinks just like you do and as fast as he was on the cops for being stupid in Cambridge, he's all over himself in the excitement of sending as much money, aid, and Marines as he can possibly get his hands on and all of us who don't give a shit are the ones paying for it, for that is Obama's idea of charity; a Robin'-da-Hood mentality.

It's the Progressive Ideal when it comes to morality...

If you got it, it's our moral obligation to take it from you and give it to someone else who "needs" it... Does that sound familiar to anyone? It's pretty much the way Haiti has been run for years, they just have a different idea of who needs it, just like the Party used to have in the Soviet Union as pointed out by Rand in "We the Living."
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"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it."
Frederic Bastiat

are you telling me, in all seriousness, and quite apart from any money involved, that the plight of these people doesn't touch your humanity at all?

 

[Ishmael]

Point out the racism...




Double-Dawg dare!

Forget it, shit lockers like the poster you quoted have overused the term to the point that it's now meaningless.

Ishmael

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Yeah, it means "kinda prejudiced" any more...

 

[butters]

would your attitude be the same if the other team were in power and sending aid?

 

[Saint Peter]

would your attitude be the same if the other team were in power and sending aid?

I am not sure. Why don't you all step up and show us what it feels like?

 

[butters]

I am not sure. Why don't you all step up and show us what it feels like?

Sorry, this was directed to AJ. Do you share his opinions, both on the political front and the humanitarian one of this disaster?

As for your post, I'm not entirely certain what you mean. could you please clarify?

 

[Saint Peter]

would your attitude be the same if the other team were in power and sending aid?

Sorry, this was directed to AJ. Do you share his opinions, both on the political front and the humanitarian one of this disaster?

As for your post, I'm not entirely certain what you mean. could you please clarify?

Fuck AJ. I am the brains in this operation.

Possibly I misunderstood your question. Who is the other team?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

are you telling me, in all seriousness, and quite apart from any money involved, that the plight of these people doesn't touch your humanity at all?

Should we jump in and fix Haiti?

When we did that before 90% of the bleedin' fawkin' hearts said, "It's up to THOSE people to get rid of Saddam..."

"It's up to the Iranians to get rid of the Mullahs..."

It was up to Haiti to unfuck themselves and they've been living quietly in tyranny and squalor for years now without a word boo from the "caring" of the world, but now, suddenly, there's an earthquake and they're sitting up and taking notice! "Oh we have to help those poor people! It's on TV!"

I see alligator tears. It "touches my humanity," yes, but I won't let it over-ride my common-fucking sense as we rush in to help them short-term and then, having the collective attention-span of an MTV video, we'll go back to ignoring the REAL HUMAN TRAGEDY, another centrally-controlled, all-powerful state run by the elites of the state for their own selfish benefit...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

would your attitude be the same if the other team were in power and sending aid?

Am I blasting this "team" for sending aid?




I just said, I really don't give a fuck BECAUSE NOTHING'S REALLY CHANGED other then the TV cameras being focused on the island. Where were they last fucking week?

On Sarah Palin? Health care? Tea-baggers...?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Should we jump into the Sudan?

Yemen?

Somalia?




Is Afghanistan the only "Wright" country to fix?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Fuck AJ. I am the brains in this operation.

Possibly I misunderstood your question. Who is the other team?

Is that a yes to my naked porn?




Ralphie was photoshopped in. I saw him trample a guy on TV yesterday.

I'm like that in the sack...

 

[butters]

That's why we don't give a shit.

You have a President now who thinks just like you do and as fast as he was on the cops for being stupid in Cambridge, he's all over himself in the excitement of sending as much money, aid, and Marines as he can possibly get his hands on and all of us who don't give a shit are the ones paying for it, for that is Obama's idea of charity; a Robin'-da-Hood mentality.

It's the Progressive Ideal when it comes to morality...

If you got it, it's our moral obligation to take it from you and give it to someone else who "needs" it... Does that sound familiar to anyone? It's pretty much the way Haiti has been run for years, they just have a different idea of who needs it, just like the Party used to have in the Soviet Union as pointed out by Rand in "We the Living."
__________________
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it."
Frederic Bastiat

Fuck AJ. I am the brains in this operation.

Possibly I misunderstood your question. Who is the other team?

I was asking AJ if he was serious, as a human being, about his statement 'we don't give a fuck', and then referring to his Obama-rant when I asked if he'd be saying the same if the Republicans had taken the White House in the last election. For those arguing against sending aid, would they still be arguing the point if it were the other guy, not Obama, who was sending it out there ...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Don't care.




It's HAITI.

Let the UN fix it and prove it can unfuck SOMETHING, ANYTHING, just one little thing to restore their credibility...

Does this scream, "OBAMA CAN'T SEND ANY AID BECAUSE HE'S ON THE WRONG TEAM?"

 

[butters]

Should we jump in and fix Haiti?

When we did that before 90% of the bleedin' fawkin' hearts said, "It's up to THOSE people to get rid of Saddam..."

"It's up to the Iranians to get rid of the Mullahs..."

It was up to Haiti to unfuck themselves and they've been living quietly in tyranny and squalor for years now without a word boo from the "caring" of the world, but now, suddenly, there's an earthquake and they're sitting up and taking notice! "Oh we have to help those poor people! It's on TV!"

I see alligator tears. It "touches my humanity," yes, but I won't let it over-ride my common-fucking sense as we rush in to help them short-term and then, having the collective attention-span of an MTV video, we'll go back to ignoring the REAL HUMAN TRAGEDY, another centrally-controlled, all-powerful state run by the elites of the state for their own selfish benefit...

I wasn't asking America to 'jump in and save Haiti' in the terms you're speaking of. We are talking about sending some vital supplies - water, blankets, food, shelter, skilled technicians, paramedics etc - to help fellow humans in their time of need.

that's not bleeding hearts and crocodile tears. that's common humanity.

as for their political situation, I know very very little about it and am powerless to do anything on that front. but, as people, we can respond to others in need - i don't see how anyone can call themselves human and turn their backs. the political stuff is up to those who understand and are able to make a difference to do anything about it. we can only do what we can do. but to not even want to help? that is inhuman.

 

[Saint Peter]

I wasn't asking America to 'jump in and save Haiti' in the terms you're speaking of. We are talking about sending some vital supplies - water, blankets, food, shelter, skilled technicians, paramedics etc - to help fellow humans in their time of need.

that's not bleeding hearts and crocodile tears. that's common humanity.

as for their political situation, I know very very little about it and am powerless to do anything on that front. but, as people, we can respond to others in need - i don't see how anyone can call themselves human and turn their backs. the political stuff is up to those who understand and are able to make a difference to do anything about it. we can only do what we can do. but to not even want to help? that is inhuman.

The US is far from not wanting to help.

http://www.usaid.gov/locations/latin_america_caribbean/country/haiti/eq/

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

We were going to send aid, no matter what.





Why do I have to care NOW?



They've been miserable for a long fucking time now without the world giving much of a shit...

 

[Ishmael]

Yeah, it means "kinda prejudiced" any more...

Doesn't even mean that anymore.

Ishmael

 

[butters]

Am I blasting this "team" for sending aid?




I just said, I really don't give a fuck BECAUSE NOTHING'S REALLY CHANGED other then the TV cameras being focused on the island. Where were they last fucking week?

On Sarah Palin? Health care? Tea-baggers...?

Does this scream, "OBAMA CAN'T SEND ANY AID BECAUSE HE'S ON THE WRONG TEAM?"

nothing's really changed? i can't believe you posted that! upwards of maybe 50,000 dead, maybe many many more - in the matter of minutes it took for the earthquake to devastate an area. And you say NOTHNG's changed?


are you blasting O and his 'team'? yes!

Originally Posted by Frisco_Slug_Esq View Post
That's why we don't give a shit.

You have a President now who thinks just like you do and as fast as he was on the cops for being stupid in Cambridge, he's all over himself in the excitement of sending as much money, aid, and Marines as he can possibly get his hands on and all of us who don't give a shit are the ones paying for it, for that is Obama's idea of charity; a Robin'-da-Hood mentality.

It's the Progressive Ideal when it comes to morality...

If you got it, it's our moral obligation to take it from you and give it to someone else who "needs" it... Does that sound familiar to anyone? It's pretty much the way Haiti has been run for years, they just have a different idea of who needs it, just like the Party used to have in the Soviet Union as pointed out by Rand in "We the Living."

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

That's not blasting, that's highlighting what I've been saying for over a year now...

Obama's Expatriate Years
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/obamas_expatriate_years.html

That's telling a poster, hey, you got what you voted for, ENJOY!!!

Then, you can go back to ignoring the real humanitarian disaster that is Haiti confident that your government signed the guest registry for you to validate your proof of compassion, good intentions, and saintliness with other people's money...
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"The redistribution of goods with the object of restoring the equality of property and wealth is at the back of the mind of the ordinary man whenever he thinks of reforming social conditions, and it forms the basis for all popular proposals for socialization."
Ludwig Heinrich Edler von Mises

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Doesn't even mean that anymore.

Ishmael

Let's try, "You need to get your mind right, here's the Collective Hymnal, please proceed to Hymn 43..."




Closer?

 

[butters]

The US is far from not wanting to help.

http://www.usaid.gov/locations/latin_america_caribbean/country/haiti/eq/

I didn't say the US - I know america, britain, and man many more countries will and are sending aid. It's what we do, because most humans want to help others in their time of need. I'm talking about AJ, and any other individuals here who've made statements about not giving a shit. The concept is so alien to me I have to ask about it. As I said before, money and everything else aside - does it not touch you, as an individual, that these people are suffering an appalling crisis due to an earthquake?
and no, I'm not so naive as to believe better politics would have made for better construction of buildings an so on and so forth. Nor am I asking for bleeding hearts. Just clarity about statements that make individuals look like awful awful people when I thought better of them. And no, I don't expect anyone to give a shit about what I think about them as people. It's something I'm trying to get my own head around - characters.

We were going to send aid, no matter what.





Why do I have to care NOW?



They've been miserable for a long fucking time now without the world giving much of a shit...

You don't have to. I just wanted to be quite clear in my own head as to whether or not you really meant what you said, though moments ago you were saying it did touch you on a huanitarian basis. unless i've misread. I'll go check.

No-one's asking you to be what you are not, AJ. I am merely trying to understand what you really are.

 

[butters]

....

I see alligator tears. It "touches my humanity," yes, but I won't let it over-ride my common-fucking sense as we rush in to help them short-term and then, having the collective attention-span of an MTV video, we'll go back to ignoring the REAL HUMAN TRAGEDY, another centrally-controlled, all-powerful state run by the elites of the state for their own selfish benefit...

ah, there it is.

so which is it, AJ? you care, or you don't?

not about the politics. not about the monies you percieve as ill-gotten, ill-spent, but about people.