Omg...

[ABSTRUSE]

Just watch and be appalled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX6dhhdJ7nE&feature=related

 

[voluptuary_manque]

A quiet stiletto into both his kidneys, perhaps . . .

 

[Miss_Misaki]

I've seen this video before. It frightened me then, and it frightens me now.

There's a distinct difference between homosexuals and pedophiles. The pedophiles say that they're being persecuted just as the homosexual community was, and that their urges are natural and can't be condemned any more than homosexual urges can.

I say no. Sex between two consenting adults (no matter their genders) is no comparison to sex between an adult and a child, or even two children, for that matter. I am speaking from experience when I say that it breaks a child to have that done to them. It ruins their life. I'll never have a normal sex life because of what that asswipe babysitter did to me, and there are actual political groups of pedophiles who DARE to claim that what they do is natural and not harmful in any way?

Bollocks to 'em!

 

[sadangel]

Just watch and be appalled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX6dhhdJ7nE&feature=related

I hate to ask, but could you add a description or a disclaimer to this. I only clicked the link without reading any posts. I am a survivor of Child Sexual Abuse, and this is a bit triggering.

Thanks Abs.

The man should not be out. The reporter was right. The children will serve a "life sentence" while the man has served his time and feels no remorse. *sigh* Seen it too often. My abusers do not have remorse. They do not feel they did anything wrong.

 

[Vermilion]

That man is mentally disturbed. Quite apart from the horrific nature of his actions, the way he responded to that reporter was, frankly, alarming. That man needs to be locked up in a mental facility.

 

[john-the-author]

I hate to ask, but could you add a description or a disclaimer to this. I only clicked the link without reading any posts. I am a survivor of Child Sexual Abuse, and this is a bit triggering.

Thanks Abs.

The man should not be out. The reporter was right. The children will serve a "life sentence" while the man has served his time and feels no remorse. *sigh* Seen it too often. My abusers do not have remorse. They do not feel they did anything wrong.

The most powerful "PostSecret" postcard I ever saw was one that said:

"When I was a child, I was abused by an adult man, and I told no-one.
Years later, I tracked him down and I killed him, and I told no-one."

And I'm not sure I have a real problem with that.

 

[sadangel]

The most powerful "PostSecret" postcard I ever saw was one that said:

"When I was a child, I was abused by an adult man, and I told no-one.
Years later, I tracked him down and I killed him, and I told no-one."

And I'm not sure I have a real problem with that.

Honestly, John. I'm not sure I have a problem with it either.

I had an opportunity to have one of my abusers "taken care of" by a friend of the family who was chief of police...and no one would be the wiser. I said no. Sometimes, I wonder why I said no. Other times...I know it is because I could not have lived with myself knowing that I gave the okay to it. *sigh* Thankfully, at least that abuser is now dead for several years. Died alone, heart attack in the snow. The other two, still live and still feel they did no wrong.

 

[Miss_Misaki]

Honestly, John. I'm not sure I have a problem with it either.

I had an opportunity to have one of my abusers "taken care of" by a friend of the family who was chief of police...and no one would be the wiser. I said no. Sometimes, I wonder why I said no. Other times...I know it is because I could not have lived with myself knowing that I gave the okay to it. *sigh* Thankfully, at least that abuser is now dead for several years. Died alone, heart attack in the snow. The other two, still live and still feel they did no wrong.

My Dad, my grandfather, and my uncle were loading up their weapons almost immediately after I finally admitted to my parents that my fifteen year-old, male babysitter had done to me what he had. It took all of us (my mom, aunt, and grandmother) to calm them down and keep them from doing something that would send them to jail. I was only five when he had done it to me. When I was ten, my parents wanted to get him to babysit for us again, and I begged them not to, knowing that it would be worse that time, because I was ten and he was twenty. At that age I actually KNEW what sex was, and that he'd done it to me, even if he'd been physically unable to completely penetrate me at the time.

I'm glad they didn't kill him. I wouldn't have wanted to think that my family would kill someone like that, no matter how much he might have deserved it for what he did to me. In the end, I know that in my warped, troubled mind I would have somehow blamed myself for turning my family members into murderers. That would have made things ten times worse, and it was that reasoning that finally convinced them to press charges against him instead of physically maiming or killing him.

I don't know where he is or what he's doing now. I don't care to know. I'll never forget his face, or even his name, but I'll never go looking for him anywhere.

 

[Handley_Page]

A quiet stiletto into both his kidneys, perhaps . . .

How about behind both knees and maybe the tendons in his wrists ?

Not dead, merely unable.

 

[sadangel]

My Dad, my grandfather, and my uncle were loading up their weapons almost immediately after I finally admitted to my parents that my fifteen year-old, male babysitter had done to me what he had. It took all of us (my mom, aunt, and grandmother) to calm them down and keep them from doing something that would send them to jail. I was only five when he had done it to me. When I was ten, my parents wanted to get him to babysit for us again, and I begged them not to, knowing that it would be worse that time, because I was ten and he was twenty. At that age I actually KNEW what sex was, and that he'd done it to me, even if he'd been physically unable to completely penetrate me at the time.

I'm glad they didn't kill him. I wouldn't have wanted to think that my family would kill someone like that, no matter how much he might have deserved it for what he did to me. In the end, I know that in my warped, troubled mind I would have somehow blamed myself for turning my family members into murderers. That would have made things ten times worse, and it was that reasoning that finally convinced them to press charges against him instead of physically maiming or killing him.

I don't know where he is or what he's doing now. I don't care to know. I'll never forget his face, or even his name, but I'll never go looking for him anywhere.

I agree. We would have made it "our fault" that they were dead. I wish I could have pressed charges. *sigh* I found out AFTER my brother's day in court about it. I was furious that I was never told and that I could have been there and told my side of the story. He did no time. He spent three days at the Mental Ward voluntarily and walked out after three days. He has since committed the same crimes twice. 6 months for the one and 2 1/2 years for the second. All together, 5 lives destroyed and he has served a total of 3 years for them all.

I'm so sorry that you went through all that. I truly am. *gentle, gentle hugs*

 

[Liar]

That man is mentally disturbed. Quite apart from the horrific nature of his actions, the way he responded to that reporter was, frankly, alarming. That man needs to be locked up in a mental facility.

True. But somehow, I find it less frightening to see that he is so publically agressive and extreme in his behaviour. This shithead actaully shows the world how horrible and obnoxious and devoid of all empathy he is. The really dangerous ones are those who have a clean facade.

 

[lesbiaphrodite]

I believe deeply in the reality of karma, and this man, though he does not think he will, most assuredly will pay for his actions. The law of karma says that whenever you commit an action that robs someone of something that cannot be replaced--like their life, their innocence, their faith--, you will suffer a karmic repayment of gigantic proportions. Whatever comes to him will be so big that we cannot fathom it.

 

[ms.read]

That is the nastiest, sickest animal I have ever seen. Someone should put it out of it's misery.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

That is the nastiest, sickest animal I have ever seen. Someone should put it out of it's misery.

or our misery, as the case may be.

 

[john-the-author]

Honestly, John. I'm not sure I have a problem with it either.

I had an opportunity to have one of my abusers "taken care of" by a friend of the family who was chief of police...and no one would be the wiser. I said no. Sometimes, I wonder why I said no. Other times...I know it is because I could not have lived with myself knowing that I gave the okay to it. *sigh* Thankfully, at least that abuser is now dead for several years. Died alone, heart attack in the snow. The other two, still live and still feel they did no wrong.

Well, a friend of mine years ago lived in a major city and she had a guy who was very sweet on her. He was a small-time enforcer and he enjoyed his job. He frightened her, really, but there wasn't a good way to shake him off (although when she moved, she moved quietly and left NO forwarding information, which worked).

During this time, though, her best friend got raped by her landlord. Rather than call the police in, my friend informed the enforcer, who picked up the best friend's landlord, drove him out to a secluded area of the city and discussed with him the mistake in his ways. To drive the point home, the enforcer then proceeded to break all the landlord's fingers with a hammer. I have a feeling that this made a lasting impression on the landlord that he had committed a pretty grievous error and that he should probably never, ever do something like that again.

And I *KNOW* I don't have a problem with that one.

 

[markagnew]

abstruse, OMG

I don't know what to say about this very evil man? locking him up for life is going to do neither society nor him any good, just put him down, erase him from the planet.

Every day we hear of atrocities being committed on children and the elderly, but what happens? nothing! society is bombarded every day with horror stories that we become so anesthetized to, so we shrug our shoulders and say, "oh that's a shame" some of us genuinely shed a few tears, and then say to ourselves, "well what can I do about it?" what indeed!

There is no-one more guilty than me for adopting this attitude, I don't like myself when I don't do anything, I'm wracked with guilt, a lot of the time I'm ashamed to be a part of the human race, but like us all I say "well what can I do?" what indeed!

Mark Agnew.

 

[ms.read]

I don't know what to say about this very evil man? locking him up for life is going to do neither society nor him any good, just put him down, erase him from the planet.

Every day we hear of atrocities being committed on children and the elderly, but what happens? nothing! society is bombarded every day with horror stories that we become so anesthetized to, so we shrug our shoulders and say, "oh that's a shame" some of us genuinely shed a few tears, and then say to ourselves, "well what can I do about it?" what indeed!

There is no-one more guilty than me for adopting this attitude, I don't like myself when I don't do anything, I'm wracked with guilt, a lot of the time I'm ashamed to be a part of the human race, but like us all I say "well what can I do?" what indeed!

Mark Agnew.

Jail and Prison, is just another gov't run business. If we actually "punished" people for thier atrocities committed against others, then we would put them to death. It would keep the population count down, stop world hunger, and possibly scare other citizens into keeping to the straight and narrow.

 

[penandpaper]

I believe deeply in the reality of karma, and this man, though he does not think he will, most assuredly will pay for his actions. The law of karma says that whenever you commit an action that robs someone of something that cannot be replaced--like their life, their innocence, their faith--, you will suffer a karmic repayment of gigantic proportions. Whatever comes to him will be so big that we cannot fathom it.

If it's karma you hold faith in, then why do abused children so often grow up to be abusers themselves? Why have theives and murderers lived lives of promise, luxury and fruifulness?

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of Karma, but unfortunately the facts are too far from truth to rely on it for punishment. The man in the video is incredibly insane. Delusional and cut off from the morays and morals of society. How to punish him? I can't answer that. I only know some very violent visceral reaction I would have if I caught him doing it. But, to wait for some cosmic force to come around and punish this man seems A) not ver gratifying and B) risky.

 

[lesbiaphrodite]

If it's karma you hold faith in, then why do abused children so often grow up to be abusers themselves? Why have theives and murderers lived lives of promise, luxury and fruifulness?

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of Karma, but unfortunately the facts are too far from truth to rely on it for punishment. The man in the video is incredibly insane. Delusional and cut off from the morays and morals of society. How to punish him? I can't answer that. I only know some very violent visceral reaction I would have if I caught him doing it. But, to wait for some cosmic force to come around and punish this man seems A) not ver gratifying and B) risky.

I understand your point of view. And, I do not believe that I suggested that karma explained all the forces at work for good and ill in the universe. I merely stated that I believed that this particular human's actions would be punished in ways we cannot see or know.

Do you really expect me to explain my beliefs about why some murderers, rapists and others live lives of luxury or whatever based on my answer to a question about one man and one situation? You're asking me to find an enlightened response to an issue that humans have not been able to explain for thousands of years. I don't pretend to hold this answer. However, I do believe that just because you perceive that someone has managed to do some horrid thing and still SEEMS to be happy does not mean they are. All actions have consequences, and only the person who performs the actions can be truly cognizant of what those consequences are.

 

[penandpaper]

I understand your point of view. And, I do not believe that I suggested that karma explained all the forces at work for good and ill in the universe. I merely stated that I believed that this particular human's actions would be punished in ways we cannot see or know.

Do you really expect me to explain my beliefs about why some murderers, rapists and others live lives of luxury or whatever based on my answer to a question about one man and one situation? You're asking me to find an enlightened response to an issue that humans have not been able to explain for thousands of years. I don't pretend to hold this answer. However, I do believe that just because you perceive that someone has managed to do some horrid thing and still SEEMS to be happy does not mean they are. All actions have consequences, and only the person who performs the actions can be truly cognizant of what those consequences are.

You are correct, those were too broad and unfair of questions. After re-reading them, I would retract them now. I just wanted to point out my feelings about how we should not believe in karma, because it may lead to inaction instead of action. But, I still love the thought of karma.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

And in this particular case, I'd be perfectly happy to give the Karma an agent to work through.

 

[MagicaPractica]

And in this particular case, I'd be perfectly happy to give the Karma an agent to work through.

There is that. I know that my grandmother lived in another time but I never could help thinking that if I'd been her, there'd be a very deep grave somewhere on my property.

 

[jomar]

True. But somehow, I find it less frightening to see that he is so publically agressive and extreme in his behaviour. This shithead actaully shows the world how horrible and obnoxious and devoid of all empathy he is. The really dangerous ones are those who have a clean facade.

This video finally played for me. DK what the problem was - said it wasn't available.

Anyway, I had the same sense Liar had.

But this guy has so thin a veneer that he couldn't hold it together under any meaningful pressure before acting like a lunatic he is. Word gets out, moms keep their kids nearby and if the community is lucky he commits suicide. Not holding my breath by the looks, though. Among other things he's a sociopath.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

who PUBLISHED his "books?!?" Who gave this man a voice? That's even scarier to me.

 

[Lady_Guenivere]

Just watch and be appalled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX6dhhdJ7nE&feature=related

Fucking hell...that was the freakiest, sickest mother fucker I have ever seen.