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In my 20s I wondered if I'd ever change my own baby's diapers. Kids are the most exciting part of my life.

These dudes need their ever loving asses kicked. Badly. This dude makes me see red. Men like this give us all a bad name.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/personal/03/09/p.dads.want.out.house/index.html

Why men look for any excuse to get away

* Story Highlights
* Father says he was a more interesting person before he had a wife and kids
* Dad runs errands just to get out of the house for 40 minutes by himself
* He realized wife felt the same when she raced him to the car
* Putting daughter to bed often took more than two hours, father says

By Geoff Williams

(Parenting) -- I used to be an interesting person. Not anymore. People with interesting lives have free time -- to ski, travel, help the downtrodden, read, go to museums, and do all the things that interesting people do.

Me? At the end of the day or over the weekend, I'm probably changing the diaper of our 4-month-old while my wife chases our 2 ½-year-old -- who is clutching Magic Markers and "coloring" one of our cats -- around the house.

Beyond work and family, the only exciting thing I've got going on is that I recently bought a new toothbrush. You know, one of those fancy ones with the blue-tinted indicator bristles that clean your teeth and massage your gums at the same time.

But it wasn't always this way. A million years ago, I made it through entire days and nights without being covered in baby drool. I could walk to another room uninhibited with responsibility -- and without plotting a strategy first. Yes, once upon a time, I even read books that didn't begin with the phrase "Once upon a time."

So when I'm feeling sleep-deprived and exhausted, which is to say every day, I yearn for a few hours -- or even just a few minutes -- of my old carefree life back. Parenting: What hits dads hardest about fatherhood

And to get it, I'll admit, I've employed the sort of ethics usually reserved for shoplifters and spammers. For instance, in a seemingly grand gesture of chivalry, I'll say to my wife, Susan, "You know, you deserve a night off from cooking and cleaning."

Instead of preparing a meal myself, however, I selflessly offer to go and pick up some takeout. But when I hop into the car to bring back the fast food, I know full well that I'm only in this for the 40-minute round-trip where I can be alone and listen to the radio.

So it was that in the first couple of months after our second daughter, Lorelei, was born, I transformed myself into a virtual domestic superhero: Errand Boy, our family's go-to guy for evening and weekend grocery trips, oil changes, dry-cleaning drop-offs, prescription pick-ups, and diaper and formula runs.

Before my wife could even finish the sentence "We're running out of..." I would be eagerly at her side, car keys in hand.

Unfortunately, Susan is a smart woman and it didn't take long before she caught on to what I was really doing -- and wanted in on the action.

One evening after a long, hard day at work, when the baby wipes were low, I announced my intentions to purchase some at the grocery store, thereby making life easier for my spouse. Maybe I laid it on too thick, or perhaps she took my words to heart, because Susan asked if I'd mind taking both of our daughters along with me, so she could have an hour to herself of peace and quiet.

I tried flashing a noncommittal smile. (I was told later that I actually looked like a prisoner in a spy movie who has just been caught with a secret escape tunnel underneath his bed.) Parenting: What your husband isn't telling you

"Dear, remember, my darling," I stammered, "I'm going on this trip for you, not me, and if the girls are going to be cranky, it's now, right before bedtime, which could turn into a shopping fiasco for me, not to mention a driving hazard, and I know you wouldn't want that... " I didn't have to finish; I was already backing out of the driveway.

Days later, when I casually suggested getting takeout pizza for dinner, my wife stared at me and then the door. Suddenly, we were in a race for the keys and wrestling each other to the floor for them. If my wife hadn't grown up fighting off an older brother, I'm sure our infant and preschooler would have been spared the sight of seeing their father tumbling headfirst over the ottoman in defeat.

"Back in a jiffy," my wife shouted as she sprinted for the car. I'm not sure how long a jiffy is, but whenever we run out of diapers or have an urge for takeout, Susan's average jiffy is clocking in at 71 minutes.

A lesson learned

The lesson? It's not just us guys. My wife cherishes her independence, too. Through respectful communication and thoughtful negotiation, though, we can each express our individual needs and work out a way for us both to get the time and space we so desperately crave.

Sigh. Who am I kidding? The "communication" ship has sailed. The chance to negotiate free time is before the baby comes or in those first few weeks when you're still figuring things out, not months after your routine has solidified.

And that's why I seem to have zero time to myself; I was a terrible negotiator. See, moms generally know more about the inner workings of babycare than the fathers. So when you're working out the terms of sharing parental responsibilities -- who does what and when -- women (or at least, my wife) actually have the home court advantage, a lesson I learned the hard way.

Some background: After the birth of my first daughter, Isabelle, my wife and I agreed to split the nighttime duties. One of us would give her a bath and the other would put her to bed. I picked the latter.

With the bath, I reasoned, I might accidentally drown one of us. And leaning over the tub on the hard tile floor would be agony on my knees and back. My wife would tackle the difficult stuff, I thought, and I'd take the rocking chair, where Isabelle would drift off peacefully in my arms as I sat back, relaxed, and nodded off myself.

Only it didn't quite work out that way.

As Isabelle got older and more resistant to bedtime, it was clear that nothing about this process would be peaceful. I rocked so much, the rocker broke. Isabelle became heavier in my arms, leaving my back just as sore as it would have been bending over the bathtub. And my feet began to hurt from standing and swaying Isabelle to sleep in my arms for what seemed like an eternity every night.

I broke every rule about putting babies to bed that you can break, and my nighttime duty was often taking two hours to complete.

Baths, on the other hand, always ran approximately 10 minutes. During her free time, my wife read paperbacks and soaked in her own tub. Sometimes she even scrapbooked. But by the time Isabelle was out cold, I had to hit the mattress myself if I wanted anything resembling a normal night's sleep.

Now that Lorelei is in the picture, my wife bathes both girls and puts Isabelle to bed, all in about 20 minutes' time, having almost undone the damage I did (through my bedtime bungling) with our first child. Parenting: Why his way can be better than yours

Meanwhile, I'm in charge of getting Lorelei to sleep, an activity that is going better than it did with Isabelle but still, through the occasional twist of fate (the other night, for example, our dog, Nellie, started to bark at a squirrel outside just as Lorelei was fading off, leaving her alert and ready for a rousing round of peekaboo) or my own mismanagement, sometimes succeeds in swallowing up my entire evening.

My griping may make it sound like I wish things had worked out differently. That I wish we had waited longer to have children, for instance, which couldn't be further from the truth.

I love our girls beyond what I ever believed was possible, and when I envision my existence without them, it's always a nightmarish scenario where I'm living in squalor, eating dirt, and shaking my fists at the heavens crying, "Why? Why?"

Nevertheless, parenting is exhausting, and so I'll probably always be trying to recapture those madcap glory days when I could all too easily get more than nine consecutive minutes of free time.

And on the days when I can't, I've learned to make the most of the time that I do have. For instance, last night, it took me over two hours to get Lorelei to sleep in her crib, but I left her room in a good frame of mind anyway because, the way I saw it, I still had enough time to pursue plenty of exciting opportunities that have recently come my way. Did I mention that I just bought a new toothbrush?

Geoff Williams is a Babytalk contributing editor and a freelance writer in Loveland, Ohio.
 
heh, my ex begged me to have his son.
spent the whole of paternity leave on his playstation.
'yell if you need help, honey'...yell???
then was either at work or in his shed til the kids were in bed for the next few years.

it took me breaking up with him and the kids telling him they didn't want to spend time with his grumpy self for him to get his shit together.
he's considering breeding again...i think he'll do a better job this time.

maybe the guy needs to grow up more than he needs a punch in the face.
 
Jeez LJ...are you the new Meemee?

A synopsis would be nice.

"Fathers who don't like changing diapers"...

What about mothers who hire nannies because their career is more important?
 
In my 20s I wondered if I'd ever change my own baby's diapers. Kids are the most exciting part of my life.

These dudes need their ever loving asses kicked. Badly. This dude makes me see red. Men like this give us all a bad name.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/personal/03/09/p.dads.want.out.house/index.html

Why men look for any excuse to get away

* Story Highlights
* Father says he was a more interesting person before he had a wife and kids
* Dad runs errands just to get out of the house for 40 minutes by himself
* He realized wife felt the same when she raced him to the car
* Putting daughter to bed often took more than two hours, father says

By Geoff Williams

(Parenting) -- I used to be an interesting person. Not anymore. People with interesting lives have free time -- to ski, travel, help the downtrodden, read, go to museums, and do all the things that interesting people do.

Me? At the end of the day or over the weekend, I'm probably changing the diaper of our 4-month-old while my wife chases our 2 ½-year-old -- who is clutching Magic Markers and "coloring" one of our cats -- around the house.

Beyond work and family, the only exciting thing I've got going on is that I recently bought a new toothbrush. You know, one of those fancy ones with the blue-tinted indicator bristles that clean your teeth and massage your gums at the same time.

But it wasn't always this way. A million years ago, I made it through entire days and nights without being covered in baby drool. I could walk to another room uninhibited with responsibility -- and without plotting a strategy first. Yes, once upon a time, I even read books that didn't begin with the phrase "Once upon a time."

So when I'm feeling sleep-deprived and exhausted, which is to say every day, I yearn for a few hours -- or even just a few minutes -- of my old carefree life back. Parenting: What hits dads hardest about fatherhood

And to get it, I'll admit, I've employed the sort of ethics usually reserved for shoplifters and spammers. For instance, in a seemingly grand gesture of chivalry, I'll say to my wife, Susan, "You know, you deserve a night off from cooking and cleaning."

Instead of preparing a meal myself, however, I selflessly offer to go and pick up some takeout. But when I hop into the car to bring back the fast food, I know full well that I'm only in this for the 40-minute round-trip where I can be alone and listen to the radio.

So it was that in the first couple of months after our second daughter, Lorelei, was born, I transformed myself into a virtual domestic superhero: Errand Boy, our family's go-to guy for evening and weekend grocery trips, oil changes, dry-cleaning drop-offs, prescription pick-ups, and diaper and formula runs.

Before my wife could even finish the sentence "We're running out of..." I would be eagerly at her side, car keys in hand.

Unfortunately, Susan is a smart woman and it didn't take long before she caught on to what I was really doing -- and wanted in on the action.

One evening after a long, hard day at work, when the baby wipes were low, I announced my intentions to purchase some at the grocery store, thereby making life easier for my spouse. Maybe I laid it on too thick, or perhaps she took my words to heart, because Susan asked if I'd mind taking both of our daughters along with me, so she could have an hour to herself of peace and quiet.

I tried flashing a noncommittal smile. (I was told later that I actually looked like a prisoner in a spy movie who has just been caught with a secret escape tunnel underneath his bed.) Parenting: What your husband isn't telling you

"Dear, remember, my darling," I stammered, "I'm going on this trip for you, not me, and if the girls are going to be cranky, it's now, right before bedtime, which could turn into a shopping fiasco for me, not to mention a driving hazard, and I know you wouldn't want that... " I didn't have to finish; I was already backing out of the driveway.

Days later, when I casually suggested getting takeout pizza for dinner, my wife stared at me and then the door. Suddenly, we were in a race for the keys and wrestling each other to the floor for them. If my wife hadn't grown up fighting off an older brother, I'm sure our infant and preschooler would have been spared the sight of seeing their father tumbling headfirst over the ottoman in defeat.

"Back in a jiffy," my wife shouted as she sprinted for the car. I'm not sure how long a jiffy is, but whenever we run out of diapers or have an urge for takeout, Susan's average jiffy is clocking in at 71 minutes.

A lesson learned

The lesson? It's not just us guys. My wife cherishes her independence, too. Through respectful communication and thoughtful negotiation, though, we can each express our individual needs and work out a way for us both to get the time and space we so desperately crave.

Sigh. Who am I kidding? The "communication" ship has sailed. The chance to negotiate free time is before the baby comes or in those first few weeks when you're still figuring things out, not months after your routine has solidified.

And that's why I seem to have zero time to myself; I was a terrible negotiator. See, moms generally know more about the inner workings of babycare than the fathers. So when you're working out the terms of sharing parental responsibilities -- who does what and when -- women (or at least, my wife) actually have the home court advantage, a lesson I learned the hard way.

Some background: After the birth of my first daughter, Isabelle, my wife and I agreed to split the nighttime duties. One of us would give her a bath and the other would put her to bed. I picked the latter.

With the bath, I reasoned, I might accidentally drown one of us. And leaning over the tub on the hard tile floor would be agony on my knees and back. My wife would tackle the difficult stuff, I thought, and I'd take the rocking chair, where Isabelle would drift off peacefully in my arms as I sat back, relaxed, and nodded off myself.

Only it didn't quite work out that way.

As Isabelle got older and more resistant to bedtime, it was clear that nothing about this process would be peaceful. I rocked so much, the rocker broke. Isabelle became heavier in my arms, leaving my back just as sore as it would have been bending over the bathtub. And my feet began to hurt from standing and swaying Isabelle to sleep in my arms for what seemed like an eternity every night.

I broke every rule about putting babies to bed that you can break, and my nighttime duty was often taking two hours to complete.

Baths, on the other hand, always ran approximately 10 minutes. During her free time, my wife read paperbacks and soaked in her own tub. Sometimes she even scrapbooked. But by the time Isabelle was out cold, I had to hit the mattress myself if I wanted anything resembling a normal night's sleep.

Now that Lorelei is in the picture, my wife bathes both girls and puts Isabelle to bed, all in about 20 minutes' time, having almost undone the damage I did (through my bedtime bungling) with our first child. Parenting: Why his way can be better than yours

Meanwhile, I'm in charge of getting Lorelei to sleep, an activity that is going better than it did with Isabelle but still, through the occasional twist of fate (the other night, for example, our dog, Nellie, started to bark at a squirrel outside just as Lorelei was fading off, leaving her alert and ready for a rousing round of peekaboo) or my own mismanagement, sometimes succeeds in swallowing up my entire evening.

My griping may make it sound like I wish things had worked out differently. That I wish we had waited longer to have children, for instance, which couldn't be further from the truth.

I love our girls beyond what I ever believed was possible, and when I envision my existence without them, it's always a nightmarish scenario where I'm living in squalor, eating dirt, and shaking my fists at the heavens crying, "Why? Why?"

Nevertheless, parenting is exhausting, and so I'll probably always be trying to recapture those madcap glory days when I could all too easily get more than nine consecutive minutes of free time.

And on the days when I can't, I've learned to make the most of the time that I do have. For instance, last night, it took me over two hours to get Lorelei to sleep in her crib, but I left her room in a good frame of mind anyway because, the way I saw it, I still had enough time to pursue plenty of exciting opportunities that have recently come my way. Did I mention that I just bought a new toothbrush?

Geoff Williams is a Babytalk contributing editor and a freelance writer in Loveland, Ohio.

CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH? NO? THEN I'LL REPEAT IT REALLLLL SLOWWWWWW, OR BETTER YET SPELL IT REALLL SLOWWWW!

IT'S CALLED H-U-M-O-R! A RATHER RISQUÉ AND UNUSUAL FORM OF SELF GRATIFICATION! (There are other forms of self gratification then the one you know)




Comshaw
 
heh, my ex begged me to have his son.
spent the whole of paternity leave on his playstation.
'yell if you need help, honey'...yell???
then was either at work or in his shed til the kids were in bed for the next few years.

it took me breaking up with him and the kids telling him they didn't want to spend time with his grumpy self for him to get his shit together.
he's considering breeding again...i think he'll do a better job this time.

maybe the guy needs to grow up more than he needs a punch in the face.
He needs tough love, and I have to give you respect for giving him just that... and perhaps more importantly, getting your kids away from that negligent turd of a human being.
 
Jeez LJ...are you the new Meemee?

A synopsis would be nice.

"Fathers who don't like changing diapers"...

What about mothers who hire nannies because their career is more important?
I C&P'd this because otherwise JackAssJim would say I was making this article up. :D
 
He needs tough love, and I have to give you respect for giving him just that... and perhaps more importantly, getting your kids away from that negligent turd of a human being.

he's not anymore though.
people change.
he needed a wake up call and then he woke up.
he tries all the harder for knowing how easy it is to lose.

most people deserve a second chance.
and most people are good at heart.
 
He needs tough love, and I have to give you respect for giving him just that... and perhaps more importantly, getting your kids away from that negligent turd of a human being.
So you think he'd be a better father if he were unconscious?
 
Fifteen posts before a gun joke? Not sure what to make of that...
 
he's not anymore though.
people change.
he needed a wake up call and then he woke up.
he tries all the harder for knowing how easy it is to lose.

most people deserve a second chance.
and most people are good at heart.
Whatever happened to getting it right the first time around?
 
to err is human.
and i never minded doing everything.
To err is to sit on the Playstation one day and ignore your kids.

Ignoring your kid as long as your ex did is like someone who drives drunk over and over again. The first two hours is when you err; the next two hours and beyond is a seriously damning statement about your character.
 
In my 20s I wondered if I'd ever change my own baby's diapers. Kids are the most exciting part of my life.

These dudes need their ever loving asses kicked. Badly. This dude makes me see red. Men like this give us all a bad name.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/personal/03/09/p.dads.want.out.house/index.html

Why men look for any excuse to get away

* Story Highlights
* Father says he was a more interesting person before he had a wife and kids
* Dad runs errands just to get out of the house for 40 minutes by himself
* He realized wife felt the same when she raced him to the car
* Putting daughter to bed often took more than two hours, father says

By Geoff Williams

(Parenting) -- I used to be an interesting person. Not anymore. People with interesting lives have free time -- to ski, travel, help the downtrodden, read, go to museums, and do all the things that interesting people do.

Me? At the end of the day or over the weekend, I'm probably changing the diaper of our 4-month-old while my wife chases our 2 ½-year-old -- who is clutching Magic Markers and "coloring" one of our cats -- around the house.

Beyond work and family, the only exciting thing I've got going on is that I recently bought a new toothbrush. You know, one of those fancy ones with the blue-tinted indicator bristles that clean your teeth and massage your gums at the same time.

But it wasn't always this way. A million years ago, I made it through entire days and nights without being covered in baby drool. I could walk to another room uninhibited with responsibility -- and without plotting a strategy first. Yes, once upon a time, I even read books that didn't begin with the phrase "Once upon a time."

So when I'm feeling sleep-deprived and exhausted, which is to say every day, I yearn for a few hours -- or even just a few minutes -- of my old carefree life back. Parenting: What hits dads hardest about fatherhood

And to get it, I'll admit, I've employed the sort of ethics usually reserved for shoplifters and spammers. For instance, in a seemingly grand gesture of chivalry, I'll say to my wife, Susan, "You know, you deserve a night off from cooking and cleaning."

Instead of preparing a meal myself, however, I selflessly offer to go and pick up some takeout. But when I hop into the car to bring back the fast food, I know full well that I'm only in this for the 40-minute round-trip where I can be alone and listen to the radio.

So it was that in the first couple of months after our second daughter, Lorelei, was born, I transformed myself into a virtual domestic superhero: Errand Boy, our family's go-to guy for evening and weekend grocery trips, oil changes, dry-cleaning drop-offs, prescription pick-ups, and diaper and formula runs.

Before my wife could even finish the sentence "We're running out of..." I would be eagerly at her side, car keys in hand.

Unfortunately, Susan is a smart woman and it didn't take long before she caught on to what I was really doing -- and wanted in on the action.

One evening after a long, hard day at work, when the baby wipes were low, I announced my intentions to purchase some at the grocery store, thereby making life easier for my spouse. Maybe I laid it on too thick, or perhaps she took my words to heart, because Susan asked if I'd mind taking both of our daughters along with me, so she could have an hour to herself of peace and quiet.

I tried flashing a noncommittal smile. (I was told later that I actually looked like a prisoner in a spy movie who has just been caught with a secret escape tunnel underneath his bed.) Parenting: What your husband isn't telling you

"Dear, remember, my darling," I stammered, "I'm going on this trip for you, not me, and if the girls are going to be cranky, it's now, right before bedtime, which could turn into a shopping fiasco for me, not to mention a driving hazard, and I know you wouldn't want that... " I didn't have to finish; I was already backing out of the driveway.

Days later, when I casually suggested getting takeout pizza for dinner, my wife stared at me and then the door. Suddenly, we were in a race for the keys and wrestling each other to the floor for them. If my wife hadn't grown up fighting off an older brother, I'm sure our infant and preschooler would have been spared the sight of seeing their father tumbling headfirst over the ottoman in defeat.

"Back in a jiffy," my wife shouted as she sprinted for the car. I'm not sure how long a jiffy is, but whenever we run out of diapers or have an urge for takeout, Susan's average jiffy is clocking in at 71 minutes.

A lesson learned

The lesson? It's not just us guys. My wife cherishes her independence, too. Through respectful communication and thoughtful negotiation, though, we can each express our individual needs and work out a way for us both to get the time and space we so desperately crave.

Sigh. Who am I kidding? The "communication" ship has sailed. The chance to negotiate free time is before the baby comes or in those first few weeks when you're still figuring things out, not months after your routine has solidified.

And that's why I seem to have zero time to myself; I was a terrible negotiator. See, moms generally know more about the inner workings of babycare than the fathers. So when you're working out the terms of sharing parental responsibilities -- who does what and when -- women (or at least, my wife) actually have the home court advantage, a lesson I learned the hard way.

Some background: After the birth of my first daughter, Isabelle, my wife and I agreed to split the nighttime duties. One of us would give her a bath and the other would put her to bed. I picked the latter.

With the bath, I reasoned, I might accidentally drown one of us. And leaning over the tub on the hard tile floor would be agony on my knees and back. My wife would tackle the difficult stuff, I thought, and I'd take the rocking chair, where Isabelle would drift off peacefully in my arms as I sat back, relaxed, and nodded off myself.

Only it didn't quite work out that way.

As Isabelle got older and more resistant to bedtime, it was clear that nothing about this process would be peaceful. I rocked so much, the rocker broke. Isabelle became heavier in my arms, leaving my back just as sore as it would have been bending over the bathtub. And my feet began to hurt from standing and swaying Isabelle to sleep in my arms for what seemed like an eternity every night.

I broke every rule about putting babies to bed that you can break, and my nighttime duty was often taking two hours to complete.

Baths, on the other hand, always ran approximately 10 minutes. During her free time, my wife read paperbacks and soaked in her own tub. Sometimes she even scrapbooked. But by the time Isabelle was out cold, I had to hit the mattress myself if I wanted anything resembling a normal night's sleep.

Now that Lorelei is in the picture, my wife bathes both girls and puts Isabelle to bed, all in about 20 minutes' time, having almost undone the damage I did (through my bedtime bungling) with our first child. Parenting: Why his way can be better than yours

Meanwhile, I'm in charge of getting Lorelei to sleep, an activity that is going better than it did with Isabelle but still, through the occasional twist of fate (the other night, for example, our dog, Nellie, started to bark at a squirrel outside just as Lorelei was fading off, leaving her alert and ready for a rousing round of peekaboo) or my own mismanagement, sometimes succeeds in swallowing up my entire evening.

My griping may make it sound like I wish things had worked out differently. That I wish we had waited longer to have children, for instance, which couldn't be further from the truth.

I love our girls beyond what I ever believed was possible, and when I envision my existence without them, it's always a nightmarish scenario where I'm living in squalor, eating dirt, and shaking my fists at the heavens crying, "Why? Why?"

Nevertheless, parenting is exhausting, and so I'll probably always be trying to recapture those madcap glory days when I could all too easily get more than nine consecutive minutes of free time.

And on the days when I can't, I've learned to make the most of the time that I do have. For instance, last night, it took me over two hours to get Lorelei to sleep in her crib, but I left her room in a good frame of mind anyway because, the way I saw it, I still had enough time to pursue plenty of exciting opportunities that have recently come my way. Did I mention that I just bought a new toothbrush?

Geoff Williams is a Babytalk contributing editor and a freelance writer in Loveland, Ohio.

But what if the guy has a german shepherd?
 
I can understand his complaints, but I'm still bothered by them. Thanks for sharing this trouble and further upsetting my already disturbed mind.
 
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