Brutal feedback!

[Lady_Guenivere]

Wow,

I just submitted a new story. Granted, I knew it would be controversial, hell it was challenging for me to write it...and I did get some positive comments, but I didn't expect such an onslaught of negative comments.

Can't people tell the difference between fiction and non-fiction? It is a story. People were making such judgemental comments that really had nothing to do with the story...but more about the moral issue, and worse about me personally. Ouch!

I suppose I could be flattered that the story stirred up such emotion in people, I don't know. It just made me feel so uncomfortable, especially the people that chose to say things anonymously. If you are going to be so harsh, at least pony up with your name so I can defend my literal choices!


I turned off the public comment section. People can tell me privately that they think I suck.

Anybody else run into this with their submissions? How did it make you feel? Did you turn off the feedback section...or just take your punches?

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Take the punches. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. The only bad advertising is no advertising. Etcetera.

 

[Lady_Guenivere]

Here is one example of the email...yikes.

:caning:

This message contains feedback for: Lady_GuenivereAbout the submission: SurrenderThis feedback was sent by: Anonymous Comments: Really dont like whores that fuck around on their marriages. Wish you were strong enough to take public comments, but then we all have our own fears.

 

[Lauren Hynde]

I just followed the link to your submissions' list, and I see you're talking about a Loving Wives story. Disregard any comments you receive on stories in that category. It's a well-known fact that its readers/commenters are - fucking insane is the technical term, I believe. Half of them shouldn't be allowed within a hundred metres of a computer. The other half has a really poor sense of sarcasm and doesn't understand the type of stories that are supposed to be there.

 

[Lady_Guenivere]

LOL...thanks.

I wasn't sure what category to put it under because none of the choices seemed appropriate. Loving Wives to me wasn't even the right place for it...but where else...First Time?

 

[Lady_Guenivere]

So far my personal favorite!

This message contains feedback for: This feedback was sent by: xxxxxxxxxx

Comments: Your story, "Surrender" was a mindless piece of pap that shows just how self absorbed, narcissistic, and lacking in basic loyalty, the feminist American woman really is. American women want what they want, when they want it, and do not care whose rights, what values, what promises, or which persons they trample on in the process. They are incapable of loving anyone or anything because they can only love themselves. Women such as yourself are also a grave danger to the country because you do not even understand what loyalty to country means. This incapacity is just of sub-set of you inordinate self love to the exclusion of everything else. Your really are such "noble" people. Oh...and have a good day! Jay

Jokes on you Jay...I am Canadian


Oh and then there is this one... much easier to take I'll admit.

This message contains feedback for: This feedback was sent by: Anonymous Comments: What a joy to come across this oasis in the usual arid landscape of Literotica. And the rewards of seeing an intellect that understands what is and is not erotic bless my day. Thank you, ma'am. More, please.

See what I mean??? Holy hell. Well was it a good story or not?

 

[Darkniciad]

Yep, Loving Wives. There are several warring camps of venom-spitters there, all bound and determined to outdo the other camps with hate-filled public comments decrying those who don't write exactly what they want, and those who do like what was written.

Most of them either are, or certainly appear to be fiction/reality challenged. Everything is autobiographical, so far as they're concerned.

Sift through the sludge for anything that you might be able to reconstruct into useful criticism, and then ignore them -- or laugh at them.

Deleting comments usually just prompts them to follow you to every category giving ones and complaining that you delete comments. Answering them only sparks them to rally the troops and pound you with another onslaught of ones and nasty comments.

Turning off public feedback will probably cut down on some of the nastiness. Without a public forum to vent their views, a lot of them won't take the time.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There should be a warning box that pops up the moment that you select Loving Wives as a category. Most people have no idea what they're getting into when they drop a story into that shark pit.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Unfortunately, your experience reinforces the cliche that the only opinion that counts is the editor who buys your story. Stephen King says he gets bombed all the time, but he cashes the checks anyway. King says popularity only counts when you want lotsa people to buy your stuff.

 

[Lady_Guenivere]

Wish I knew that ahead of time.

I didn't just delete the negative posts...I deleted the positive ones too...and then turned off the public comments (fair is fair right?)

I am getting my fair share of email over this one...about half good and half terrible.

Is there anyway to get a story removed once it has been posted?

 

[Lady_Guenivere]

Unfortunately, your experience reinforces the cliche that the only opinion that counts is the editor who buys your story. Stephen King says he gets bombed all the time, but he cashes the checks anyway. King says popularity only counts when you want lotsa people to buy your stuff.

well since they get to read my "pap" for free, I guess they got what they paid for...

 

[Lady_Guenivere]

This message contains feedback for: Lady_GuenivereAbout the submission: SurrenderThis feedback was sent by: Anonymous

Comments: Well, don't know quite what to say. Aren't you a little whore.

**Actually I am not altogether offended by that comment

Ok ok...I guess my point is made... I won't share anymore of my feedback (unless it is REALLY REALLY worth sharing )

People are nucking futts!

 

[xssve]

I just followed the link to your submissions' list, and I see you're talking about a Loving Wives story. Disregard any comments you receive on stories in that category. It's a well-known fact that its readers/commenters are - fucking insane is the technical term, I believe. Half of them shouldn't be allowed within a hundred metres of a computer. The other half has a really poor sense of sarcasm and doesn't understand the type of stories that are supposed to be there.

Good housekeepers are hard to find.

 

[Darkniciad]

Is there anyway to get a story removed once it has been posted?

(1) Start a new submission
(2) Use the same title ( or as much as will fit ) as the original story, and append *DELETE* to it.
(3) Fill in the other sections with placeholders, as they aren't important.
(4) To eliminate any potential mix-ups, take note of the Lit ID for your story. That's the number that appears at the end of the URL when you view the first page of your story.
(5) In both the story text and moderator's notes section, say that you wish to have the story removed from the site. Put the Lit ID# in there.
(6) Preview and submit.

Technically, this will take as long as a normal submission to go through. In reality, I've seen edits and deletes going through a day or two faster than the normal new story queue lately.

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Good housekeepers are hard to find.

Touché, but it's probably better to recruit them from a correctional system's halfway house rather than from its psychiatric ward.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

No one values what they get for free.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

I would delete it, if it really bothers you, wait 2 weeks, and submit it under a different title in a different category.

Then the LW readers will most likely miss it, for the most part... and you'll get less vitriolic feedback...

 

[Lady_Guenivere]

I would delete it, if it really bothers you, wait 2 weeks, and submit it under a different title in a different category.

Then the LW readers will most likely miss it, for the most part... and you'll get less vitriolic feedback...

What category do you think? I just don't know what is most appropriate.

 

[Darkniciad]

What category do you think? I just don't know what is most appropriate.

The best I can come up with is Erotic Couplings. Really, without the cheatee coming up in the story anywhere, it doesn't fit in Loving Wives ( as it's become defined ) anyway. That category is mainly for the results of cheating on the marriage, more than just the cheat itself.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

The best I can come up with is Erotic Couplings. Really, without the cheatee coming up in the story anywhere, it doesn't fit in Loving Wives ( as it's become defined ) anyway. That category is mainly for the results of cheating on the marriage, more than just the cheat itself.

Yeah, I'd say EC is your best bet.

 

[xssve]

There are a lot of different ways to cheat - Nuns are collared to Christ, so sex with any corporeal being is cheating - that might seem extreme, kind of a separate fetish in itself, but there are widows and unmarried women, etc., who belong to churches or other social groups that don't understand that humans have to get righteously laid occasionally, and these women would have roughly similar needs in terms of discretion, etc., and it can still have that "forbidden fruit" appeal, the tension that arises from cheating stories.

Just a thought, I think social expectations of chastity could be a workable substitute for a spouse, if I'm describing this correctly.

Even children in the house could work; i.e., there's that whole business of trying to have wild sex without the children catching you that could add a certain amount of suspense, and a situation almost everybody is familiar with - we may not all have kids but we all were kids.

 

[CharleyH]

Wow,

I just submitted a new story. Granted, I knew it would be controversial, hell it was challenging for me to write it...and I did get some positive comments, but I didn't expect such an onslaught of negative comments.

Can't people tell the difference between fiction and non-fiction? It is a story. People were making such judgemental comments that really had nothing to do with the story...but more about the moral issue, and worse about me personally. Ouch!

I suppose I could be flattered that the story stirred up such emotion in people, I don't know. It just made me feel so uncomfotable, especially the people that chose to say things anonymously. If you are going to be so harsh, at least pony up with your name so I can defend my literal choices!

I turned off the public comment section. People can tell me privately that they think I suck.

Anybody else run into this with their submissions? How did it make you feel? Did you turn off the feedback section...or just take your punches?

If a good editor tells you that your stuff is shit? Take notice. If someone comments on your story and says shit, don't worry because it's shit and like on a sidewalk, you step over it.

Comments, good, bad, ugly and odd, should be welcome by any author of substance.

 

[CharleyH]

I just followed the link to your submissions' list, and I see you're talking about a Loving Wives story. Disregard any comments you receive on stories in that category. It's a well-known fact that its readers/commenters are - fucking insane is the technical term, I believe. Half of them shouldn't be allowed within a hundred metres of a computer. The other half has a really poor sense of sarcasm and doesn't understand the type of stories that are supposed to be there.

I second this opinion! lol - so true.

 

[3113]

I just followed the link to your submissions' list, and I see you're talking about a Loving Wives story.

LOL! Yep. The minute I saw the title of this thread I thought, "Oh, dear, she put the story in Loving Wives, didn't she?"

If you want brutal feedback, that's the category to pick. It's de rigueur there to say mean and awful things to the author.

 

[Lady_Guenivere]

If a good editor tells you that your stuff is shit? Take notice. If someone comments on your story and says shit, don't worry because it's shit and like on a sidewalk, you step over it.

Comments, good, bad, ugly and odd, should be welcome by any author of substance.

Good advice and thank you for it. I welcome people to send me their comments privately. I am open to all, good and bad, especially constructive critisism. If someone wants to be a dick and publicly stone me just for that sake alone; for their sick entertainment...I am not down with that. I wouldn't do that to anyone, whether I thought their work was crap or not.

 

[Lady_Guenivere]

LOL! Yep. The minute I saw the title of this thread I thought, "Oh, dear, she put the story in Loving Wives, didn't she?"

If you want brutal feedback, that's the category to pick. It's de rigueur there to say mean and awful things to the author.

Live and learn.