Illinois Governor Arrested...

[jeninflorida]

omg, who cares about the dates, you have fox on one side and msnbc on the other....

if you want to talk dates.....

MSNBC didn't really get revved up to the polarized Fox level until after the Clinton administration, did it? It wasn't formed until 1996. Fox has been going since 1986--and Rush Lumbaugh has been "entertaining" us since at least 1988.

 

[jeninflorida]

if that helps you sleep at night...fine.

in your world you want only msnbc and would ban fox and the others that do not agree with your point of view. fine

No, sweetie, that wasn't your point, and it's incorrect regardless.

 

[sr71plt]

omg, who cares about the dates, you have fox on one side and msnbc on the other....

if you want to talk dates.....

You were talking about what was going on in the Clinton administration. Perhaps you can't keep up with your own discussion.

 

[jeninflorida]

sad thing, they will get another 10 billion soon...so maybe that is how AIG as earned a bonus! I posted the bonus plan on another post, AIG is small compaired to the others.....

I assume that's 3M per exec, not 3M total. They shouldn't get any bonuses. If anything, their salaries should be docked fo poor performance. Unless, that is, successful panhandling from the gov. is considered to be an accomplishment.

Couldn't the gov. put a restriction on the moneyh, such as no bonuses?

 

[jeninflorida]

I was talking about many things

You were talking about what was going on in the Clinton administration. Perhaps you can't keep up with your own discussion.

 

[sr71plt]

I was talking about many things

Just not all that coherently.

But, yes, that would explain why you can't keep up with your own discussion.

 

[jeninflorida]

maybe so

Just not all that coherently.

 

[jeninflorida]

lets jump back a few steps....

can we all agree that if msnbc is on the air that fox should also be on the air? or is it that most of you feel that fox and rush should be off the air?

and let people choose what he or she wants to watch?

You were talking about what was going on in the Clinton administration. Perhaps you can't keep up with your own discussion.

 

[Guest]

I'm so glad I'm not drinking diet cherry pepsi tonight.

 

[jeninflorida]

yes, i would hate to for you to make another mess

I'm so glad I'm not drinking diet cherry pepsi tonight.

 

[sr71plt]

lets jump back a few steps....

can we all agree that if msnbc is on the air that fox should also be on the air? or is it that most of you feel that fox and rush should be off the air?

and let people choose what he or she wants to watch?

Chronologically speaking, shouldn't you actually say, can we agree that once Fox had been slinging partisan mud on the air for 10 years, it was quite all right for MSNBC go on the air with its programing?

What's good for the goose . . .

 

[jeninflorida]

yes yes and yes! i could care less about the time frame. okay so fox has been on longer...so what?

what got me going was someone comment about fox and or rush and how they should be off the air.

when i listen to fox...rush...msnbc its all the same...bla bla bla bla bla

i'm glad that if your a supporter of msnbc that you have msnbc...and for those that are fox supporters that they have fox..and for those that have rush...he or she can listen to rush. i'm not a fan

Chronologically speaking, shouldn't you actually say, can we agree that once Fox had been slinging partisan mud on the air for 10 years, it was quite all right for MSNBC go on the air with its programing?

What's good for the goose . . .

 

[mark_schultz]

Even those of us living up in Wisconsin knew that he was corrupt. Wasn't the first investigation started back in 2006?

Illinois Governor Arrested on Corruption Charges

Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich and his chief of staff were arrested in Chicago Tuesday on two counts each of corruption charges relating to trying to sell President-elect Barack Obama's vacated Senate seat.

the rest of the story.

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Looks like I'm gettin' out of here just in time.

 

[jeninflorida]

Can anyone agree with me on this subject, "What's good for the goose . . "

Chronologically speaking, shouldn't you actually say, can we agree that once Fox had been slinging partisan mud on the air for 10 years, it was quite all right for MSNBC go on the air with its programing?

What's good for the goose . . .

 

[sr71plt]

yes yes and yes! i could care less about the time frame. okay so fox has been on longer...so what?

what got me going was someone comment about fox and or rush and how they should be off the air.

when i listen to fox...rush...msnbc its all the same...bla bla bla bla bla

i'm glad that if your a supporter of msnbc that you have msnbc...and for those that are fox supporters that they have fox..and for those that have rush...he or she can listen to rush. i'm not a fan

Well, I think Laumbaugh should be off the air--because he's a sleazeball. But I'm sure I could find some on the left side too--if I watched heavily partisan news coverage of either side.

And it doesn't bother me a bit that either Fox or MSNBC are on the air. I don't watch either (except I watch some of the Fox drama series and the Redskins; nothing on MSNBC).

 

[jeninflorida]

thank you! I'm with you on the subject, that both (fox and msnbc) can be on the air...I'm not watching them.

Redskins? interesting....hope that your team is taking care of Jason Taylor..but guessing that this will be his last year.

Well, I think Laumbaugh should be off the air--because he's a sleazeball. But I'm sure I could find some on the left side too--if I watched heavily partisan news coverage of either side.

And it doesn't bother me a bit that either Fox or MSNBC are on the air. I don't watch either (except I watch some of the Fox drama series and the Redskins; nothing on MSNBC).

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

And for every Ted Stevens, there's a Rod Blageovich. But if anyone really expects total honesty and incorruptible leadership from a friend of Tony Rezko, he's seriously deluding himself. No offense to Illinois, but, speaking especially to Chicago, I don't want any more of your Senators, Governors, etc. in the White House. One's enough, and I have some grave reservations about him. I seriously doubt that one could rise in Chicago politics without being a crook. They just try not to get caught.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I'm so glad I'm not drinking diet cherry pepsi tonight.

Makes you yearn for the harder stuff, doesn't it?

 

[Guest]

Makes you yearn for the harder stuff, doesn't it?

I'll just drink it away from the laptop.

Jesus, Mary and Joseph. The blind leading the fucking lost, isn't it?

 

[jeninflorida]

for me I just don't understand how anyone can be a democrats...take from the rich and give to the poor. sure there should be help and as a society we should help the less...however, for years Democrats have supported welfare and what has that gotten us? how many people feel that welfare is a career choice? if people would stand up and say forget welfare and support education and job programs so that people can move off welfare...however, that will only loosen the ranks for democrats.



talk about the blind leading the blind

I'll just drink it away from the laptop.

Jesus, Mary and Joseph. The blind leading the fucking lost, isn't it?

 

[freshface]

for me I just don't understand how anyone can be a democrats...take from the rich and give to the poor. sure there should be help and as a society we should help the less...however, for years Democrats have supported welfare and what has that gotten us? how many people feel that welfare is a career choice? if people would stand up and say forget welfare and support education and job programs so that people can move off welfare...however, that will only loosen the ranks for democrats.



talk about the blind leading the blind

So, what, you'd rather take from the poor and give to the rich? That's about what we've been doing for the last eight years and it seems to be working well for us. And we won't even talk about your alternate reality where the Democrats are against education and the Republicans for it. It does help explain your beliefs though, if your reality is that distorted.

Actually, George W. and others like him did a very good job of turning me away from the Republican Party. The farther they move to the lunatic fringe, the less I like them.

 

[jeninflorida]

the whole welfare systems needs to be recreated. right now we just dish money out...great. why not have a system like a college univeristy where people take loans, live in safe housing have day care, and lean a trade or earn a marketable degree. after 3-8 years he or she can enter the job market and earn a living? can't give the degree away for free as when you give something away for free no one respects it...so at the end of the program he or she goes out and is now working...if the program had a cost of $30,000 the person only pays or has a loan for lets say 10%, over time he or she pays it back. that money goes back into the program. Now at the end of 3-8 years that person has a future....right now someone goes on welfare and its almost impossible to get off.

So, what, you'd rather take from the poor and give to the rich? That's about what we've been doing for the last eight years and it seems to be working well for us. And we won't even talk about your alternate reality where the Democrats are against education and the Republicans for it. It does help explain your beliefs though, if your reality is that distorted.

Actually, George W. and others like him did a very good job of turning me away from the Republican Party. The farther they move to the lunatic fringe, the less I like them.

 

[freshface]

the whole welfare systems needs to be recreated. right now we just dish money out...great. why not have a system like a college univeristy where people take loans, live in safe housing have day care, and lean a trade or earn a marketable degree. after 3-8 years he or she can enter the job market and earn a living? can't give the degree away for free as when you give something away for free no one respects it...so at the end of the program he or she goes out and is now working...if the program had a cost of $30,000 the person only pays or has a loan for lets say 10%, over time he or she pays it back. that money goes back into the program. Now at the end of 3-8 years that person has a future....right now someone goes on welfare and its almost impossible to get off.

I agree with the basic concept. It'll cost a lot more than $30,000 to support someone for three years with childcare and teach them a trade, but there are long term benefits to this. But doesn't this contradict your resent opposition of taking from the rich and giving to the poor?

 

[jeninflorida]

No, giving hand out is waste....universities are worse than GM and if they get there hands on a program like this the cost per student would be well over 80,000 per year. in my dream world not sure who would run this program.

now, who would have the stomach in DC to support a program like this? would the american tax payer?

this would just be the start though, since unemployment is getting close to 8-10%...have to have something to create jobs. one can do what Regan did and invest more in the militar as that was the foundation for the tech boom of the 1980's...so maybe with some help we have have a dot com 2.0?

building roads and stuff is nice but those are short term jobs..just hope that they can push through the permits and get things started in Feb of 09 and not Feb of 10...

I agree with the basic concept. It'll cost a lot more than $30,000 to support someone for three years with childcare and teach them a trade, but there are long term benefits to this. But doesn't this contradict your resent opposition of taking from the rich and giving to the poor?

 

[cloudy]

No, giving hand out is waste....universities are worse than GM and if they get there hands on a program like this the cost per student would be well over 80,000 per year. in my dream world not sure who would run this program.

now, who would have the stomach in DC to support a program like this? would the american tax payer?

this would just be the start though, since unemployment is getting close to 8-10%...have to have something to create jobs. one can do what Regan did and invest more in the militar as that was the foundation for the tech boom of the 1980's...so maybe with some help we have have a dot com 2.0?

building roads and stuff is nice but those are short term jobs..just hope that they can push through the permits and get things started in Feb of 09 and not Feb of 10...

I've got news for you...going to a reputable four-year university already costs around $80K a year if you add up the costs of tuition, books, living expenses, throw in daycare, etc.

One added benefit is that after an education one knows the difference between "their" and "there," and the proper use of capital letters and punctuation.