new low: mccain on obama re "education"

[Pure]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/09/politics/horserace/entry4433099.shtml


i guess we're in for a dirty 60 days. i vote for this as the slimiest to date. is this obama's 'dukakis moment'?

also available at...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/mccain-ad-obamas-lone-edu_n_125205.html

 

[Selena_Kitt]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/09/politics/horserace/entry4433099.shtml


i guess we're in for a dirty 60 days. i vote for this as the slimiest to date. is the obama's 'dukakis moment'?

I know. That was... something.

 

[fieryjen]

Wow...

 

[3113]

Unbelievable. To use education on how children can recognize and protect themselves from sexual predators to accuse Obama of "offering 'sex education' to kindergardeners"

McCain is taking any honor he earned in Vietnam and flushing it right down the drain.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

I don't agree with teaching sex education to kindergarteners, actually. It's not a religious thing for me (I teach my kids about sex) but a propaganda one. As far as I'm concerned, schools are being used against parents in way too many ways, and 'arming' kids with information often gives them ammunition that they're often way too young to handle or understand the implications of.

For example, say little Sara's gets told by her teachers that "inappropriate touching" by a stranger or a parent is bad, and that they can always come to a teacher and tell, and if she does, she will get that bad bad person in big big trouble. So little Sara gets mad at something Mommy or Daddy's done, not just mad, but really REALLY mad...and decides to tell her teacher Daddy "touched me inappropriately." She's going to get them in trouble all right!

And the ball starts rolling... Think it doesn't happen? Believe me, it does. Already. Without government mandated sex ed at younger grades. Kids in our culture, even six, seven, eight, are old enough and sophisticated enough, to do something like this. The funny thing is, when they break down and say, "But it wasn't true, I was just mad at Daddy!" CPS and the authorities don't listen. Now, the child's just afraid... the original story must still be true.

That said, this ad is just heinous. While I don't agree with the idea, I certainly never for a minute believed that Obama was suggesting teaching kindergarteners something age-inappropriate.

 

[Corylea]

McCain is taking any honor he earned in Vietnam and flushing it right down the drain.

He sure is. How does it feel to abandon all your principles, John? Feel good? I hope not!

 

[amicus]

C'mon, folks, let us not pretend you don't understand the education issue here, cuz we all know you do.

The propaganda conveyor belt to a captive, young audience, is the chosen methodology of all oppressive political concepts, known and used by the Fascists and the Socialists for nigh on a hundred years and the Xtians long before that.

If you had even a glimpse of the agenda of the liberal left in the public school curriculum, you would yank your child out today.

The can't teach a kid how to spell or do basic math, yet they can educate them to sex, social behavior, pro abortion, pro feminism and teach tolerance for blacks and gays and claim a moral victory.

More and more parents are removing their children from public brainwashing for just those reasons. The public education system in America is in its death throes as charters schools, home schooling and computer schooling takes a larger bite each year.

Soon the schools will be populated only by blacks and hispanics, neither of whom have a history of a quest for individual rights and liberty and prefer either a tribal or a catholic communal existence.

Such a deal.

Amicus.....oops...there went another pig with lipstick on, the teachers union, still a pig....

heh....



ami

 

[cloudy]

teach tolerance for blacks and gays

....and this is bad because.....?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

It doesnt matter.

Camille Paglia called Obama a lamb, and sez its all over.

 

[Belegon]

The ad is disgusting. And the polls favor him?

The hell with John McCain's honor. At least I know where that went. *flushing sound in the background*

Hey, people of America! Yeah, you! The ones who bitch about nothing getting done. About politicians all being liars or having no morals. The ones who whine and complain.

Get off your ass and do something. Create a public outcry that says this isn't right and we aren't that stupid. Give McCain some backlash so he knows he went too far.

Tell him that you remember Yoda saying that fear and hate are the path to the Dark Side.

Tell Emperor McCain and Darth Palin that you won't vote for them.

I'm fucking disgusted at this ad.

 

[amicus]

Quote:
Originally Posted by amicus
teach tolerance for blacks and gays

....and this is bad because.....?

~~~

Cloudy, you self inflicted blindness affects you only, most can see that during a natural disaster the looters are 99 percent black. Everyone knows that blacks commit 70 percent of all violent crime in the country. Everyone knows that blacks are the drug dealers and suppliers from coast to coast. Everyone knows that those who chose to stay in New Orleans were black.

Everyone knows that the forced busing and forced integration of the 60's and 70's, the result of Brown vs The school board, has failed abysmally. Everyone knows that affirmative action and quotas for blacks has failed and worsened race relations with the white population.

Everyone knows that 70 percent of blacks are born out of wedlock and that the largest welfare and food stamp recipients are black.

And don't try to sell the liberal agenda that whites are to blame because we enslaved them and the oppressed them and that we should pity them and pay compensation for the past.

This is not taught in the public schools even though it is common knowledge.

And, black penis's are on the average, 1/4 inch longer than white penis's, so I guess that makes the difference. But one cannot even whispers that the average black IQ is fifteen percent lower than the average white, now can one? For surely if one did, one would be a dreaded bigot and/or racist, right?

Open your eyes, kid, face reality.

I guess the slightly bigger dick makes up for the slightly smaller brain and thas why they don't go to school but play football and basketball and marry white women instead, eh?

Amicus...(a really, really bad person)

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Tell him that you remember Yoda saying that fear and hate are the path to the Dark Side.

Tell Emperor McCain and Darth Palin that you won't vote for them.

This is how liberty dies.

With thunderous applause.

 

[cloudy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by amicus
teach tolerance for blacks and gays



~~~

Cloudy, you self inflicted blindness affects you only, most can see that during a natural disaster the looters are 99 percent black. Everyone knows that blacks commit 70 percent of all violent crime in the country. Everyone knows that blacks are the drug dealers and suppliers from coast to coast. Everyone knows that those who chose to stay in New Orleans were black.

Everyone knows that the forced busing and forced integration of the 60's and 70's, the result of Brown vs The school board, has failed abysmally. Everyone knows that affirmative action and quotas for blacks has failed and worsened race relations with the white population.

Everyone knows that 70 percent of blacks are born out of wedlock and that the largest welfare and food stamp recipients are black.

And don't try to sell the liberal agenda that whites are to blame because we enslaved them and the oppressed them and that we should pity them and pay compensation for the past.

This is not taught in the public schools even though it is common knowledge.

And, black penis's are on the average, 1/4 inch longer than white penis's, so I guess that makes the difference. But one cannot even whispers that the average black IQ is fifteen percent lower than the average white, now can one? For surely if one did, one would be a dreaded bigot and/or racist, right?

Open your eyes, kid, face reality.

I guess the slightly bigger dick makes up for the slightly smaller brain and thas why they don't go to school but play football and basketball and marry white women instead, eh?

Amicus...(a really, really bad person)

I don't think even you believe that bullshit.

If you're trying to be a shit-stirrer, it helps if you keep what you say in the range of possibility.
Just sayin'.

 

[Belegon]

This is how liberty dies.

With thunderous applause.

Yeah, I thought of that too.

You know what? George Lucas and Natalie Portman both support Obama. I wonder how effective an ad that would make?

McCain and Palin speaking.... cut in and out between the RNC and the Imperial Senate, and then air that clip of Padme.

 

[jomar]

I keep waiting for guerrilla ads. People posting kind of slick, by nasty-negative ads with McCain's or Obama's 'I approve this message tag.' It will be tacitly approved, but utterly deniable that both parties had anything to do with them.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Yeah, I thought of that too.

You know what? George Lucas and Natalie Portman both support Obama. I wonder how effective an ad that would make?

McCain and Palin speaking.... cut in and out between the RNC and the Imperial Senate, and then air that clip of Padme.

That would ROCK. Write them!

 

[Belegon]

Blog post on this...

http://willbelegon.blogspot.com


McCain's New Ad Bypasses Gutter and Jumps In The Septic Tank

John McCain has released an ad that just goes too far.

Referencing a bill from the Illinois Legislature that set up funding to teach kids what kinds of touching were inappropriate and to get a teacher or parent when someone tried to touch them there, McCain is saying that Barack Obama wants to teach sex ed to kindergartners.

John, the reason you didn't want to talk about your honor to Time magazine is obvious now. Many people don't like to talk about the girl they broke up with while the wound is still fresh.

John McCain said he was going to run a different kind of campaign. He pledged truth. Heralded the arrival of the "Straight Talk Express" and spent a lot of time trying to act like a defender of truth, justice and the American Way.

Superman isn't real, John. He is as mythical as your sense of fairplay, your sense of honor and your morality.

 

[Corylea]

You know what? George Lucas and Natalie Portman both support Obama. I wonder how effective an ad that would make?

McCain and Palin speaking.... cut in and out between the RNC and the Imperial Senate, and then air that clip of Padme.

Ooooh. That gives me chills. CONTACT them! See if they'll do it.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Since Bel suggested we get proactive:

Contact George

Contact Natalie

Let them know what we'd love to see!

 

[amicus]

I do so love the left and the Hollywood Liberals who provide so much amusing entertainment in their dream worlds of social equality.

What continues to amaze me is that our posters here seem to think the Hollywooders are real! I have great sympathy for those actors and actresses who take on pretend roles because they have no sense of personal hubris, no self identification and live only through the adoration of others.

And of course, the faith, the religious like belief, that media and sound bites and endorsements a campaign makes, my oh my are you really out there in the dream world.

The Dems are completely off their game plan, with both Obama and Biden floundering in circles, jousting at windmills in their own feeble minds.

I have been saying, over and over again for more than a year now, that the American public would finally wake up and realize that forty years of left wing restrictions on energy are responsible for the current crisis.

Further that the education and health care mess, again, created by the left and that the entire global warming farce, is just that, a farcical environmental radicalist ploy to halt growth and expansion.

In my opinion this awakening is long overdue and it is my hope that it brings about the extinction of the Democrat party and that something more honest, like an American Socialist, Green Party, Nader like, will arise and replace it and give real Americans a true target to focus on.

It is also amusing to watch our 'usual suspect' posters, flounder about like their leaders, who, like them, have no original thoughts and merely chant the mantra of the dreams of cafe' socialists.

Such a deal!

amicus...

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Karl Rove has joined the McCain campaign, you know.

 

[Pure]

i love when ami just goes fascist and talks killing the scum. one faux libertarian reveals himself.

 

[Guest]

THREADJACK - in regards to Amicus's postings.
Ya know what... I was going to answer this here but I won't.... I am going to make another thread because I believe my temper just boiled over.



In answer to the actual AD from the McCain camp.
Rot in hell you son of a bitch. I don't give a good g** damn about how everything in your world revolves around one moment of your life. I don't care that you are playing on the mindset of the cold war and that isolationist beliefs that if we keep the fight somewhere else it won't come here and we don't have to deal with anything. Go absolutely straight to hell McCain and I hope that you fall off a podium somewhere.

 

[amicus]

Typical, Pure, purely typical...you can't defend the issues so make a personal attack, what else is new?

squeaky clean amicus...

 

[Pure]

the funny and scary thing is to think of the audience for that ad:

JON-BOY hears it and says "Mamie, osama favors sex in kindergarten as well as terror!"

MAMIE: "Jesus! He's not only a muslim, but a perv. Look at that smile."

JON-BOY "'Nuther reason for home schoolin'; so glad we're in Robertson's program and stickin' with the Lord Jesus."
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problem: surely jon boy and mamie were not going to vote for obama. i guess they are *energized*; that's the point of the palin gambit. they WILL vote now, with amicus, to preven a muslim america!