Choking....

[Sir_Julian]

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[twysted73]

Well done......

Try spitting into her mouth or on her face sometime.
A light slapping to the face. Back and front handed of course.
A few choice words....

*shivers* I need August.

 

[girlofurdreams]

painfully jealous i wasn't your first... but one of the many reasons i love you Sir

very much looking forward experiencing your powerful hands around my throat without love next time round... the glazed hint of savagery in your eyes when you realise just how strong your kitten is, and how far her limits stretch....

 

[Sir_Julian]

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[girlofurdreams]

i am glad for everything our relationship has brought into my life... and your kitten always goes above and beyond to please you Sir, that's why you love her so much

thought i'd save my 100th post for your thread Sir... hopefully it won't be too much longer until you're able to have an avatar of your own so all of Lit can easily see just how phenomenal you are xxxxxxx

i love you so much tonight

 

[Sir_Julian]

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[girlofurdreams]

It will be good to put some pictures up.

indeed... and all the eager young girls can get all excited by they pics of the abs i've run my tongue over and the cock i've choked on until the cum has filled my throat....

try him at least once.... He is perfection

 

[Sir_Julian]

hmm

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[girlofurdreams]

Those eyes looking up at me when you take it so deep..... You are definitely my prize posession.

thank you Sir... that means a great deal to your kitten

 

[catalina_francisco]

indeed... and all the eager young girls can get all excited by they pics of the abs i've run my tongue over and the cock i've choked on until the cum has filled my throat....

try him at least once.... He is perfection

LOL, be careful with invitations. I won't personally be interested, but there might be a few in this world who would jump at the chance and then some. It could keep you busy ushering the comings and goings. Mind you, as perfect as F is for me, I am not into believing perfection exists.

Catalina

 

[Pretty_VaCUNT]

Well done......

Try spitting into her mouth or on her face sometime.
A light slapping to the face. Back and front handed of course.
A few choice words....

*shivers* I need August.

marry me

 

[myinnerslut]

i love having a hand around my throat, but actual choking is out. Masters hands are large rather strong and he is afraid he will accidently hurt me if he puts too much pressure on my neck.

 

[Homburg]

i love having a hand around my throat, but actual choking is out. Masters hands are large rather strong and he is afraid he will accidently hurt me if he puts too much pressure on my neck.

That and I find breathplay to be fuck-all dangerous and uncontrollable. Too many people blithely jump into breathplay without any knowledge of all the problems that could pop up, or the essentially random reactions it can cause. Breathplay is scary shit, and a hand around the throat is as much as I am willing to do.

And, yeah, I've done some serious damage just grabbing onto things. I'm not going to chance that around the throat of my gal.

 

[the captians wench]

That and I find breathplay to be fuck-all dangerous and uncontrollable. Too many people blithely jump into breathplay without any knowledge of all the problems that could pop up, or the essentially random reactions it can cause. Breathplay is scary shit, and a hand around the throat is as much as I am willing to do.

And, yeah, I've done some serious damage just grabbing onto things. I'm not going to chance that around the throat of my gal.

When Jounar and I started talking about things to do while I'm there, I mentioned breathplay. I've enjoyed it a number of times with very experienced partners and absolutely loved it. He said absolutely not, it's too dangerous for his tastes.

I think it's kinda funny he thinks breathplay is too dangerous, but nailing my tits to a desk is fair game. *giggles* But he does have a clear line and I like that.

 

[Homburg]

He's a smart cat then.

http://members.aol.com/Oldrope/breath.htm

Good article. Anyone into breathplay should read it.

 

[SubKekiLee]

So I just wanted to share my experience with the first time I decided to "choke" a fairly demure pretty little plaything that I was introducing to the wonderful world of passionate, physical, rough, hair-pulling sex...

It seemed that the more I stepped up the physical contact, and the rough play, the better she responded. It was given away by the fact that the more she was turned on the more she squirted all over me. At first she was embarrassed that I had found out her little secret, but she soon settled down once she saw how much I enjoyed it. But I digress...
When I finally closed my hands gently around her neck while I drove deeply inside her, and slowly increased the pressure, the flood gates opened, and she was again given away by the volume of cum gushing between our thrusting bodies, now making a deliciously wet slapping noise...
Her breathing increased, and deepened, and she had a cute crooked smile on her face. I could not help but focus on her wide-eyed stare as she struggled to comprehend the new experience, and level of pleasure she was reaching...
She blushed and gasped louder and louder as she reached up to close her hands around mine. I thought she was going to remove them from her throat, however my surprise and joy was immense when I felt her hands squeeze them around her even harder....
I amused her and squeezed until her gasps and whimpers became hoarse, and her eyes watered and bulged slightly.... I was so turned on by the fact that her cute little crooked grin remained. I released her from my grip when whe wrenched her head back in orgasm, and screamed at the ceiling...
I let her trembling body recover, gently stroking and rubbing her in awe.
She rolled into me, looked up into my eyes and simply, quietly, sexily said

"Again....."

*shivers* OH my that sounds so hot.. =0)

 

[Netzach]

I'm a bagging and breath *control* person myself, more than choking. There's a different psychological terror that results.


(even if you put some holes in the back of the bag that no one notices, haha)

 

[Yasashii_Kaze]

i love having a hand around my throat, but actual choking is out.

I agree. I have reoccurring nightmares that I'm choking. It doesn't help that I have a history of sleep apnea and half the time when I'm dreaming that I can't breathe, I actually can't.

 

[Netzach]

He's a smart cat then.

http://members.aol.com/Oldrope/breath.htm

Good article. Anyone into breathplay should read it.

Weisman is good, I think it's good to alert people to dangers. However, this doesn't account for the entire sport of Judo and it doesn't explain why everyone doesn't die when you try swimming the length of the pool underwater in high school (I used to be great at this)

the bottom line is that there are risks, but throwing up your hands and saying "there are NO ways to mitigate this risk" to me, is a dangerous stance. It's more like "you may die doing this. Since you're probably going to do it anyway if it's that hot to you, here are some things to consider which will make you less likely to die doing it"

 

[Homburg]

Weisman is good, I think it's good to alert people to dangers. However, this doesn't account for the entire sport of Judo and it doesn't explain why everyone doesn't die when you try swimming the length of the pool underwater in high school (I used to be great at this)

the bottom line is that there are risks, but throwing up your hands and saying "there are NO ways to mitigate this risk" to me, is a dangerous stance. It's more like "you may die doing this. Since you're probably going to do it anyway if it's that hot to you, here are some things to consider which will make you less likely to die doing it"

I've been both a judo and sombo player, and have both choked people out and been choked out myself. It ain't safe, but you do it anyway because you're motivated to do so by whatever got you into that sport. That said, in both, choking happens generally under controlled conditions with other people around, no bondage, and usually involving comparatively healthy, fit participants. And if someone codes out, no one is going to hesitate to call an ambulance because they need to release their bottom from ropes, chains, britney spears outfits, etc. And the competitions usually have medical personnel onsite.

As to holding your breath to swim the length of the pool, the lack of oxygen is not the only problem in breathplay. The nerve compression is huge, and the chance for tissue damage to nerves and blood vessels is serious. Frankly, a rear naked choke in MMA is far safer than both hands wrapped around the throat squeezing the life out of someone.

I've sat there holding a buddy of mine while he convulsed and tried to bite through his tongue after I choked him out in a particularly good roll on the mats. It scared the fuck out of me, and left him with a couple of injuries that bothered him for quite a while. Yeah, I won that particular match, but I hurt him. And there was nothing particularly out of place about the choke I used, and he'd been choked out before. He just reacted badly this time, and it went ugly.

In my opinion, breath play is dangerous enough to say that there is no way to mitigate the dangers. If tops into breathplay were willing to go earn a few belts in judo, sombo, etc, I'd not mind. I'm all kinds of against breathplay, yet if a competent player wanted to use me to illustrate a choke, I'd do it. I've rolled that way, and I'm fine with it. But I'm not fine with it in my bedroom.

It's apples and oranges. Usually healthy people in a public situation with other adults around, no bondage, no evidence to hide, no wrong-doing to delay calling for assistance, and a greater chance of medical personnel onsite causes me to worry less about chokeholds in MA. Add in chokes that are vastly more biomechanically sound that the usual methods used in BDSM, and I have much less of a problem with it.

As an aside, I have less issues with bagging. If you don't cinch the bag super tight aroudn the throat, you don't have the nerve compression or bloodflow issues. At that point, all you are dealing with is lack of oxygen. Somewhat less deadly.

And to further explain my reticence, I carry a lump about 1.5" wide on the left side of my jaw from where a chokehold crushed the wrong thing (tendon or something, fuck if I know. My doc didn't tell me). It's a knot that is noticeable and, barring surgery, I'll carry it on my face til I die. Some nights I roll over onto it wrong and the pain wakes me up. Maybe my experiences cause me to be additionally risk-averse. *shrug* I'll apply a choke hold in the proper circumstances. I just won't do it in the bedroom.

And all that said, I would happily hit the mats again. I just don't have the time to roll seriously. So I guess I'm no smarter, eh?

 

[BiaTcHiNFiRe]

try him at least once.... He is perfection

I am with Cat on this one. I would never say "try him" about Jock. Try him and your fuckin death!! lol

I am getting nuclear when I imagine I should share another man. No no and NO. He could be million times my Dom and I wouldnt. Not my thing. I am very possessive and I dont share whats mine. And he is. Just as I am HIS.

!!MINE!! *nods*



As for the perfection, Jock is simply purrrrfect for me, too!

 

[BiBunny]

Well, from the "don't try this at home" camp....(Yes, it's a true story.)

He had my back pinned to the wall in the hotel room, one of the first times we ever played together. He wrapped a towel from the bathroom around my neck and crossed the ends at the base of my throat. We stood there face-to-face as he pulled it tighter and tighter. I could feel my heart pounding in my temples, and our eyes locked. I felt like he could see right through me, down into the very depths of my soul. It grew harder and harder to breathe.

He smiled quite benevolently down at me, but the words that came out of his mouth blew my mind. "You have snuff fantasies, don't you?"

How'd he know? I have no idea. We'd never talked about it before. But the moment remains in my head as one of the most incredible experiences I've ever borne witness to.

 

[girlofurdreams]

I am with Cat on this one. I would never say "try him" about Jock. Try him and your fuckin death!! lol

I am getting nuclear when I imagine I should share another man. No no and NO. He could be million times my Dom and I wouldnt. Not my thing. I am very possessive and I dont share whats mine. And he is. Just as I am HIS.

!!MINE!! *nods*



As for the perfection, Jock is simply purrrrfect for me, too!

Sir Julian is not mine, and never will be... also having a long distance D/s relationship it would be near impossible to imagine not releasing our sexual tension somehow lol.
I am His, but cannot be with Him... but we are both on the same page when it comes to sharing, i know that no matter who else we may be intimate with in any way "no one else counts" (isn't that right Sir??? lol) we both enjoy being with other people, Sir Julian especially loves His kitten pleasuring other women which is fantastic news for me... we give each other freedom and respect, we are everything that the other has always wanted... we are one another's dream come true (aww so corny but true lol)

 

[catalina_francisco]

Sir Julian is not mine, and never will be... also having a long distance D/s relationship it would be near impossible to imagine not releasing our sexual tension somehow lol.
I am His, but cannot be with Him... but we are both on the same page when it comes to sharing, i know that no matter who else we may be intimate with in any way "no one else counts" (isn't that right Sir??? lol) we both enjoy being with other people, Sir Julian especially loves His kitten pleasuring other women which is fantastic news for me... we give each other freedom and respect, we are everything that the other has always wanted... we are one another's dream come true (aww so corny but true lol)

LOL, I'm glad that works for you both as it must make life easier. I know when we had 16,000kms separating us we discussed all the ins and outs of it and though he initially offered me the choice to play with others, we both decided that it was less painful for both of us to go without until we could be together full time, than to be with others. It just wasn't going to work for us simply because we already had made such a deep commitment that for us the thought of someone else left us cold, and would have undoubtedly done nothing toward satisfying any hunger, if anything heightening it. It works for some, not for others. So why is the relationship long distance? You don't have to answer, just a curious Cat as usual. I admire anyone who can do the distance thing and survive it intact. We found it was just too much and so threw caution to the wind and I moved to him, then sorted out all the loose ends...lol, some I am still sorting out 6 years later!!

Catalina

 

[BiaTcHiNFiRe]

Sir Julian is not mine, and never will be... also having a long distance D/s relationship it would be near impossible to imagine not releasing our sexual tension somehow lol.
I am His, but cannot be with Him... but we are both on the same page when it comes to sharing, i know that no matter who else we may be intimate with in any way "no one else counts" (isn't that right Sir??? lol) we both enjoy being with other people, Sir Julian especially loves His kitten pleasuring other women which is fantastic news for me... we give each other freedom and respect, we are everything that the other has always wanted... we are one another's dream come true (aww so corny but true lol)

I prefer relationships with commitment, so no "you can have fun with others" wouldnt work with me. Simply cuz Jock IS mine!! Its the way I need it and he knows it. We will wait til we meet.

I am glad you and Sir Julian having fun. As long as you are both happy its all cool.