Some really bad writers on here.

[Guest]

If Rico wasn't impressed before, he is now.

As he well should be!

Seriously, we're busy people, here.

 

[TE999]

If Rico wasn't impressed before, he is now.

I also notice he hasn't piped up since about post #5.

Maybe he's intimidated.

 

[Guest]

I also notice he hasn't piped up since about post #5.

Maybe he's intimidated.

He needs to come to a Lit-together.

 

[Elianna]

I also notice he hasn't piped up since about post #5.

Maybe he's intimidated.

What's the AH without a good-natured discussion, though?

 

[Liar]

What's the AH without a good-natured discussion, though?

Your average Tuesday?

 

[starrkers]

TE999

SARAH is hot for me so she wont put me on ignore. In fact, everyone says they put me on ignore but they always chime in somehow or nuther. Curious how that happens.

you float on and off my ignore list, depending. When you are on ignore, I tend to click occasional responses and read to see if you have anything relevant to say (you do anctually do that sometimes) or are just flinging poo.
If the relevant posts seem to outnumber the poo flinging, you come off ignore. When you retreat to abuse and absurdity, you go back on.
And as time goes by, it seems you spend more time on ignore than off. Eventually I won't bother changing status.

I doubt I'm the only one who uses Ignore this way.

 

[shereads]

"Some people have a way with words. And some people, oh, not have way, I guess."

~ Steve Martin

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I also notice he hasn't piped up since about post #5.

Maybe he's intimidated.

I think he's searching for that prescribed specialized medicine case with the blue diamond-shaped pills inside for erectile dysfunction, underneath the pile of dirty acid-wash jeans where he left it last time.

 

[TE999]

He needs to come to a Lit-together.

Then he will be intimidated.

What's the AH without a good-natured discussion, though?

Yep, and we need more of 'em, not pissing contests.

Your average Tuesday?

When it's raining.

 

[TE999]

I think he's searching for that prescribed specialized medicine case with the blue diamond-shaped pills inside for erectile dysfunction, underneath the pile of dirty acid-wash jeans where he left it last time.

*sniggersnort*

Such is the life of the intimidated, unfullfilled and ignored.

 

[RicoLouis]

No not intimidated just away for the day. I have said my bit. Didn’t really expect 120 + replies in one day. I have stated how much I hate the You / I stories and that’s enough for me.

“When life gives you shit, do what monkeys do. Share it with others.”

 

[TE999]

No not intimidated just away for the day. I have said my bit. Didn’t really expect 120 + replies in one day. I have stated how much I hate the You / I stories and that’s enough for me.

“When life gives you shit, do what monkeys do. Share it with others.”

"When you fuck with the bull, you get the horns."

Happy Reading.

 

[starrkers]

No not intimidated just away for the day. I have said my bit. Didn’t really expect 120 + replies in one day. I have stated how much I hate the You / I stories and that’s enough for me.

“When life gives you shit, do what monkeys do. Share it with others.”

You did? I thought the first post was just a general slagging of the writers here.

 

[Stella_Omega]

...
I have stated how much I hate the You / I stories and that’s enough for me.

You're in good company there. It's fun for some writers, and boring for most readers.

 

[DeeZire]

Back to typing - I actually saw that lady typist on Letterman. She did her hundred-whatever words per minute, but when she ripped the paper out of the typewriter to show the camera, it was gibberish. She had accidentally placed one hand one key out of position - probably nerves. It was a very awkward moment, which Dave finessed in his usual insulting but comical way.

So Rico, dude, I hope you found some better stories. I have to agree that the I/you drivel is quite pathetic, which is why I steer clear of the top lists and go for quirky instead.

For non-porn writers, check out Stacy Richter, on Scribner, and a new book on a no-name publisher. She writes short stories with this sort of hip vision - ordinary people doing ordinary things, but doing them in such a way that you're either laughing, or crying, or just sitting there in awe, pondering the finesse with which she spins a tale. This, to me, beats the hell out of "I watched as her melon-breasts tumbled free from her straining bra..."

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

STARRKERS

Oh! It doesnt take much to get exiled to IGNORE. Any contrary opinion about any topic is enough.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Ah, but the real fact is, he was accusing this place of being substandard in its erotic literary abilities. And so being, if he was looking for a higher, more noble and erudite erotica to get hard and wet for, then why wasn't the way he came across with this statement reflective of the higher standard he wishes to read? Lead by example and all that, yey? We have to cut a mushmouth some slack, now?

Seems the majority assessment of him was dead on to me. Kick his ass back to sixth grade to learn how to write before he starts nailing dead rabbits to the post.

When I first came to Lit 5 or 6 years ago or whatever, I fancied myself a poet. The first thing I did was call up a dozen or so poems at random and read them and they were terrible, so I went over to the poetry board and started a thread that said something like, "Whoa! You don't have many good poets over here, do you?" and honestly, it never occurred to me that I was being rude. I was just calling it like I saw it. I thought I was opening a dialog on poetry quality.

They chased my ass out of there, which is how I ended up in the AH and is probably why I write fiction today instead of poetry, but I sympathize with what Rico was doing. He's not a writer. His posts don't have to be perfect, and he's certainly entitled to his opinion. We're always crying for feedback and opinions, and so he gave it to us, and now we're all over him, as if it's his fault.

Admittedly, he (and I) both made serious mistakes: we criticized the writers and not the writing, buit then again, he wasn't criticizing anyone here. He came to the Author's hangout because, supposedly, that's where the Authors Hang Out. But I think we're shooting the messenger here.

 

[keeblercrumb]

Rocket Man

STARRKERS

Oh! It doesnt take much to get exiled to IGNORE. Any contrary opinion about any topic is enough.

Now James.... very few folks here mind a contrary opinion here despite what a few of the more paranoid posers here might claim...

On the contrary.... many here appreciate a reasoned argument whether they agree with it or not. A modicum of wit and civility will almost always be met with a rational response.

What earns you and a few others here the dubious distinction of being igged by numerous regulars. are the gratuitous insults, name calling and other ugly and vicious inane comments.... apparently for no other reason than to illicit some kind of like response.... Such a deal.

This "poo flinging monkey" epitaph you attracted is not mere hyperbole. It it, actually, a pretty close analogy to many of your posts... You just throw shit out there just to attract attention.

That you occasionally have something worthwhile to offer can get lost in all the noise of the shit being tossed about.

If it makes you feel any better, I never use the "ignore" feature here and certainly would not for yours. Which is not to say then when I am too tired or busy to ridicule your poo flinging, I do not ignore you, I certainly do.

But I would rather, as we have had on occasion, have something close to an friendly and civil exchange of views on any subject. There have been a few, I seem to remember, in which we actually agreed on things and did so without the rancor which accompanies many exchanges here.

Just thought you would like to know....



-KC

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

DOC

Consider this.

The success rate for writers is maybe less than for kids who wanna join the NFL or NBA or MLB.

Statistically speaking, the odds heavily favor everyone totally sucking as a writer. 99.99 will never publish anything anywhere else but here.

LIT is like the school where everyone gets a gold star for whatever they scribble. Its the land of self-delusion. And its this way because everyone has a thin skin and cant handle criticism of their crappy scribbles and inane plots. Its also this way because too many awful writers circle the wagons against criticism and blow smoke up each other's asses.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

KEEBLER

Oh! If you were in the same county as right I might buy your argument, but I have a good memory.

When I first blew in to Dodge there was a thread about grammar. I contributed a contrary opinion about grammar being the be-all, end-all of writing. And the poo fell like rain.

So, being a gladiator, I drew my sword and hopped into the arena; you know the rest.

What the poo flingers didnt figure on is me being a gladiator.

I treat people how they treat me.

 

[_Lynn_]

... I sympathize with what Rico was doing. He's not a writer. His posts don't have to be perfect, and he's certainly entitled to his opinion. We're always crying for feedback and opinions, and so he gave it to us, and now we're all over him, as if it's his fault.

Admittedly, he (and I) both made serious mistakes: we criticized the writers and not the writing, buit then again, he wasn't criticizing anyone here. He came to the Author's hangout because, supposedly, that's where the Authors Hang Out. But I think we're shooting the messenger here.

Very true.

I only thought it ironic that he talked about the poor writers on Lit and yet his own short post had several errors. It made me chuckle but I never criticized him for having an opinion.

 

[impressive]

When I first came to Lit 5 or 6 years ago or whatever, I fancied myself a poet. The first thing I did was call up a dozen or so poems at random and read them and they were terrible, so I went over to the poetry board and started a thread that said something like, "Whoa! You don't have many good poets over here, do you?" and honestly, it never occurred to me that I was being rude. I was just calling it like I saw it. I thought I was opening a dialog on poetry quality.

They chased my ass out of there, which is how I ended up in the AH and is probably why I write fiction today instead of poetry...

They're good at that -- all while proclaiming (in apparent sincerity) that they don't try to make others feel inferior.

I don't recommend praising everything as fabulous, but as far as that forum goes, the prevalence of sneering is very distasteful to me.

 

[oggbashan]

They're good at that -- all while proclaiming (in apparent sincerity) that they don't try to make others feel inferior.

I don't recommend praising everything as fabulous, but as far as that forum goes, the prevalence of sneering is very distasteful to me.

Some of them don't like my poetry either.

Perhaps it's because I write rhyming doggerel and The Garderobe pokes fun at classical allusion.

Og

 

[dr_mabeuse]

DOC

Consider this.

The success rate for writers is maybe less than for kids who wanna join the NFL or NBA or MLB.

Statistically speaking, the odds heavily favor everyone totally sucking as a writer. 99.99 will never publish anything anywhere else but here.

LIT is like the school where everyone gets a gold star for whatever they scribble. Its the land of self-delusion. And its this way because everyone has a thin skin and cant handle criticism of their crappy scribbles and inane plots. Its also this way because too many awful writers circle the wagons against criticism and blow smoke up each other's asses.

No one's saying you have to be a professional author to post on Lit or to write a decent story. But the fact is, yeah, Lit publishes anything and everything, and 90% of it is bad. Probably 80% of it mind-numbingly bad, downright anti-enjoyable--flat, cliched, dull, unimaginative, and hard to read.

But Lit's not just for great literature. Not at all. Probably only 5% of readers care about that. It's a place where people come to get their rocks off on pure smut or learn how to write or follow their scores or see their stuff published and live the writing life too, and that's what it is. And yeah, criticism is mild, because doing a critique is very difficult and few people have the skills to tell what's wrong with a story, and even fewer really want to know.

But there's certainly stuff worth reading here. Lots of it. You just have to know how to find it. Picking random stories is not the way to go. Nor, for my money, are the top lists. I go by recommendations, just like I do for non-porn reading material.

 

[TxRad]

Lit is what you make of it, both as a writer and a reader.

My last formal education in English was 1964. A lot of water has been under that bridge since then and what i remembered when I first started to write was less than perfect, shall we say. My first "story" ended up being 287 word pages. Was it any good? Reading it now, the story was and is good. The writing was juvenile at best.

The thing is, the more I write the better i get, sometimes. Lit gives me a place to post it and people to help me learn. It gives me a place to experiment in a lot of cases. Some experiments work and some don't. Writing is a hobby and a part time one at that. One day maybe I'll have time to take it seriously.

For readers this place gives them a massive amount of stories. Are they good? I really don't know. I don't have enough time to write, much less read. When I do read it's contest stories and some are good and some are terrible. As for where I would read if I had time. It wouldn't be the top lists for the most part. It would be the stories in the 4.65 to 4.75 range. That seems to be where the good stories end up for the most part.

A reader left a comment on one of my stories once that made me smile. "I had to wade through a lot of crappy stories to find this gem in the rough so keep writing."

So I will regardless of how some feel about my writing. To me, I'm not a writer, I'm a story teller. If I ever learn English then I might become a writer. That is unless all that grammar gets in the way of the story.