Some really bad writers on here.

When I finished typing class, I passed with the bare minimum skill level of 90 wpm with fewer than 5% errors. My sister finished typing class with a skill level of 240 WPM with fewer than 5% errors and went into "IBM keypunch operator" as her first job which reuired 280 WPM with ZERO errors.


Whoa. 240/280 WPM sounds sort of physically impossible to me. Try it on a sustained basis--at least 24 characters a second! (A standard typing word is six characters) And when I took government typing tests, 60 WPM was quite acceptable (although I managed more). I suggest a rethink/recount on that one.
 
Whoa. 240/280 WPM sounds sort of physically impossible to me. Try it on a sustained basis--at least 24 characters a second! (A standard typing word is six characters) And when I took government typing tests, 60 WPM was quite acceptable (although I managed more). I suggest a rethink/recount on that one.

I gotta agree. Last typing test I took was around 10 or 15 years ago, and I was doing 100 - 110 wpm, and people were impressed. I had the highest score out of a group of about 75 people that I worked with. When I learned to type in high school, I was doing 60 wpm (I remember because I got a pin shaped like a typewriter with 60 on it) which was also considered very good, as you said.
 
I've been thinking about the claims that writing seems to be worse. I'm toying with the idea that it is a matter of perception rather than education.

Until the internet came along almost all public writing was vetted somehow. Letters to the editor, pamphlets, newspaper columns, everything that was meant to be read by the public was checked.

With the internet, that checking has pretty much disappeared.

What I'm saying is that people who can't write properly are, thanks to the internet, being seen in public. Before someone would reject very poor writing, it wouldn't get printed. Now it does.

So now people that wouldn't be seen before are seen. It's just a matter of perception, a perception changed by the internet.
 
So now people that wouldn't be seen before are seen. It's just a matter of perception, a perception changed by the internet.

I agree with you. More people have more access to things. We see more mistakes because media is massed.

Just a little side note: I googled the fastest typist. This was on wikipedia and was substantiated by yahoo, and every other link that came up when I googled it.

Fastest Typist in the World
As of 2005,, Barbara Blackburn is the fastest typist in the world, according to The Guinness Book of World Records. Using the Dvorak Simplified Keyboard, she has maintained 150 word/min for 50 min, 170 word/min for shorter periods of time, and has been clocked at a peak speed of 212 word/min. Blackburn, who failed her typing class in high school, first encountered the Dvorak keyboard in 1938, quickly learned to achieve very high speeds, and occasionally toured giving speed-typing demonstrations during her secretarial career. She appeared on The David Letterman Show and was deeply offended by Letterman's comedic treatment of her skill.


just to satisfy those of us who thought 280 wpm sounded a little far-fetched.

:cattail:

Did I mention I was feeling "pouncy" today?
 
No, the fact of the matter is, if you pick a story at random here, it's more likely to be bad than good. That's not at all surprising. This is not a skilled writers' site, and Literotica publishes anything people submit without qualifying them in any way, as long as they follow their guidelines. By and large, there are more bad writers than good writers, so it stands to reason most of the stories here will be bad. Stinkers, even. Embarrassments.

Couple that with the question of what kind of person writes porn? Those of us who see literary value or challenge in erotica are relatively few. Most of the people who write here are stark amateurs getting their rocks off by committing their dirty fantasies to paper (or the electronic equivalent). People who wouldn't write or even read a piece of fiction normally post here without a second thought. And the same can probably be said of most of Lit's readers, who have no idea of whether what they're reading is execrable or not, as long as it has mom fucking junior on page two.

So the fact is, Rico's right. And we should cut him some slack.
 
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I've been thinking about the claims that writing seems to be worse. I'm toying with the idea that it is a matter of perception rather than education.

Until the internet came along almost all public writing was vetted somehow. Letters to the editor, pamphlets, newspaper columns, everything that was meant to be read by the public was checked.

With the internet, that checking has pretty much disappeared.

What I'm saying is that people who can't write properly are, thanks to the internet, being seen in public. Before someone would reject very poor writing, it wouldn't get printed. Now it does.

So now people that wouldn't be seen before are seen. It's just a matter of perception, a perception changed by the internet.

Sort of, yes. At one time writers who were published where you could see their writing were generally better, I think, because there were a hell of a lot fewer people thinking they were writers and taking advantage of all of the opportunities we now have to slap their "writing" under the public nose.
 
No, the fact of the matter is, if you pick a story at random here, it's more likely to be bad than good. That's not at all surprising. This is not a skilled writers' site, and Literotica publishes anything people submit without qualifying them in any way, as long as they follow their guidelines. By and large, there are more bad writers than good writers, so it stands to reason most of the stories here will be bad. Stinkers, even. Embarrassments.

Couple that with the question of what kind of person writes porn? Those of us who see literary value or challenge in erotica are relatively few. Most of the people who write here are stark amateurs getting their rocks off by committing their dirty fantasies to paper (or the electronic equivalent). People who wouldn't write or even read a piece of fiction normally post here without a second thought. And the same can probably be said of most of Lit's readers, who have no idea of whether what they're reading is execrable or not, as long as it has mom fucking junior on page two.

So the fact is, Rico's right. And you should cut him some slack.

But for those who do care, this is a great place to learn. I've only written seven stories so far and the quality, aided by everyone who would stick his or her nose into the workings, has already improved. So it's like everything else. If you insist on going for the lowest common denominator, that's what you will find. If you look for diamonds among the gravel, you will find that, too.
 
But for those who do care, this is a great place to learn. I've only written seven stories so far and the quality, aided by everyone who would stick his or her nose into the workings, has already improved. So it's like everything else. If you insist on going for the lowest common denominator, that's what you will find. If you look for diamonds among the gravel, you will find that, too.

Yeah, but random fishing is very disappointing. I almost always read AH people. I edit and proofread, too.

I don't need to read a tonne of gravel to find a diamond when i have Sherry Hawk, Yui, gauche, and such to challenge me.
 
DOC

There's another aspect that's ignored: synchrony. Fish school, birds flock together, cattle form herds, dogs form packs, fire-flies blink simultaneously. Writer's congeal and become regimented to mediocrity. LIT, nor any writer's group, has anything to offer genuine talent. So the group norm tends toward the efficient mediocre. I mean, Babe Ruth couldnt possibly teach anyone how to hit 60 homeruns.
 
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LIT, nor any writer's group, has anything to offer genuine talent. So the group norm tends toward the efficient mediocre. I mean, Babe Ruth couldnt possibly teach anyone how to hit 60 homeruns.


Interesting that you aren't brave enough to offer up a story on Lit., JBJ. Let's see you get off your fat ass, shut your mouth, pick up a pen, and show us what you can write. :D
 
Interesting that you aren't brave enough to offer up a story on Lit., JBJ. Let's see you get off your fat ass, shut your mouth, pick up a pen, and show us what you can write. :D


JBJ has no stories?

I've never looked because I figured they'd be crap.

What the hell is he doing flinging poo around here?
 
SR71PLT

C'mon. I've said before that I dont post here because there's nuthin to be gained from it. You get no money. People steal your material. And folks like you trash competition, just to keep in practice. So, how does any of it help me? It doesnt.

BTW, did I touch a nerve with the mediocrity remark?
 
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SARAH

I'm a missionary from God, to get your pickled mind right.
 
JBJ has no stories?

I've never looked because I figured they'd be crap.

What the hell is he doing flinging poo around here?

Nope, there are no JamesBJohnson stories posted to Lit. Don't you love forum-yapping drones who have no stories posted at Lit. sneering down their noses at writers who are contributing stories to the Web site?
 
SR71PLT

C'mon. I've said before that I dont post here because there's nuthin to be gained from it. You get no money. People steal your material. And folks like you trash competition, just to keep in practice. So, how does any of it help me? It doesnt.

Nope, you don't post stories here because you are all mouth and no action. (And because this is one of the few Web sites that hasn't banned your sourpuss ass for beng a nuisance drone.) :rolleyes:
 
No, the fact of the matter is, if you pick a story at random here, it's more likely to be bad than good. That's not at all surprising. This is not a skilled writers' site, and Literotica publishes anything people submit without qualifying them in any way, as long as they follow their guidelines. By and large, there are more bad writers than good writers, so it stands to reason most of the stories here will be bad. Stinkers, even. Embarrassments.

Couple that with the question of what kind of person writes porn? Those of us who see literary value or challenge in erotica are relatively few. Most of the people who write here are stark amateurs getting their rocks off by committing their dirty fantasies to paper (or the electronic equivalent). People who wouldn't write or even read a piece of fiction normally post here without a second thought. And the same can probably be said of most of Lit's readers, who have no idea of whether what they're reading is execrable or not, as long as it has mom fucking junior on page two.

So the fact is, Rico's right. And we should cut him some slack.

Ah, but the real fact is, he was accusing this place of being substandard in its erotic literary abilities. And so being, if he was looking for a higher, more noble and erudite erotica to get hard and wet for, then why wasn't the way he came across with this statement reflective of the higher standard he wishes to read? Lead by example and all that, yey? We have to cut a mushmouth some slack, now?

Seems the majority assessment of him was dead on to me. Kick his ass back to sixth grade to learn how to write before he starts nailing dead rabbits to the post.
 
Whoa. 240/280 WPM sounds sort of physically impossible to me. Try it on a sustained basis--at least 24 characters a second! (A standard typing word is six characters) And when I took government typing tests, 60 WPM was quite acceptable (although I managed more). I suggest a rethink/recount on that one.
It's forty year old memory so it's probably wrong. I do remember for sure that it was based on five letters/word rather than six, not counting spaces, and that my 90 wpm was barely good enough for a D.

The point there was that typing speed was (is) no excuse for spelling errors or typos -- especially since word-processing/text entry allows for corrections instead of completely re-typing a document for a "clean copy."
 
Nope, there are no JamesBJohnson stories posted to Lit. Don't you love forum-yapping drones who have no stories posted at Lit. sneering down their noses at writers who are contributing stories to the Web site?

I know he posted some in the BDSM hangout. They tolerated him, some of the regulars told me, because he occasionally had something interesting to say.

But now he's here.

I suppose he stays in a forum until everyone puts him on ignore then moves to the next.
 
SR71PLT

You talk a good game, but you dont really know, do you? You know what you want to believe, and pray is true, but you have no evidence and I say youre talking out your ass.

If you wanna post your stories here, go for it. If a LIT hand-job is good enough for you, more power to you.
 
SR71PLT

You talk a good game, but you dont really know, do you? You know what you want to believe, and pray is true, but you have no evidence and I say youre talking out your ass.

If you wanna post your stories here, go for it. If a LIT hand-job is good enough for you, more power to you.

Pull up your pants.
 
SR71PLT

You talk a good game, but you dont really know, do you? You know what you want to believe, and pray is true, but you have no evidence and I say youre talking out your ass.

If you wanna post your stories here, go for it. If a LIT hand-job is good enough for you, more power to you.

Of course, I know. Don't be stupid. You are able to show nothing here but a yapping mouth. Put up or shut up. Post your "talent" for us to see. I'll be honest in an assessment.

Until then, where do you get off making a comment about anyone else's quality of writing in what they post to Lit.? You're the coward here.
 
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SARAH

What you say translates to SARAH is a conformist and wants everyone to be like her.
 
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