Women, Scold Laws, The Branks, Nags

[amicus]

Even Sweetsubsarahh is being nice to me on the forum so I must be doing something wrong and no one has called me a Misogynist, a hater of women, for the longest time, gotta fix that.

I was surfing channels the other night and ran across a piece on nagging wives and women and how they were dealt with in the past, actually, with laws remaining on the books in England until 1967.

Then at a local variety store, I was outside, waiting for a female of course, grabbing a surreptitious smoke, when a woman came out with mouth working and finger jabbing at a poor bedraggled male looking embarrassed and trying to walk faster away from the crowd.

What with the recent surge in 'domestic violence laws', a male is hard pressed to offer resistance to the sharp and unceasing tongue of a woman if she becomes hell bound to make her point and press the issue.

The time has passed that the poor male can just slap the shit out of her to shut her up.

Sometimes, it seems to me, there are no other alternatives save running away and maybe leaving kids and a house behind, who knows.

But...it wasn't always that way...


http://home.comcast.net/~burokerl/branks.htm

The Branks

"...The branks or "scold's bridle" was a device used for punishing nagging women or "scolds" in 17th and 18th century Britain. At that point in history, Quaker women were preaching their doctrinal message in the streets with enthusiasm and boisterous behavior considered unfeminine at the time. As punishment, the branks was locked about the women's heads to humiliate them and teach them their place. This was considered standard practice to tame "shrews", and every respectable settlement in England and Scotland had one.

The iron frame of the branks wrapped around a woman's head and included a muzzle which clamped down the tongue so she could not talk. The victims were led by halter through the streets like pack animals while onlookers jeered. The branks was also quite painful since the tongue plate usually had sharp spikes that ground into the tongue at the slightest movement of the head or twitch of the halter..."

~~~

Now....the women on this forum will froth and foam and the men, who might agree or not, will keep their silence, for fear of retribution should they dare offer kindly comment.

I do tire, however, during the current and continuing crusade against men for domestic violence, being of the opinion that the female instigates most of the confrontation and leaves the poor male with no option but to pop her a good one.

Or perhaps we could reinstitute that old Scold Law of the past and put the fear of the Branks into nagging women once again?

Heh, heh!



Amicus....always good for a tussle or a roll in the hay...(at least smile and chuckle at this before you throw something?

 

[cloudy]

My husband is the worst nag in the world, and can out-bitch me anyday. I say bring it back, as long as it gets applied equally.

(I'd love to put him into one of those contraptions. Of course, I'd neatly forget to let him out)

 

[amicus]

In the entire history of the Scold Laws and the Branks, nary a single man was ever charged or subjected to the punishment.

You could be part and parcel to the very first!

smiles...

ami...

 

[cloudy]

In the entire history of the Scold Laws and the Branks, nary a single man was ever charged or subjected to the punishment.

You could be part and parcel to the very first!

smiles...

ami...

He could give lessons, I swear. I'm quite adept at tuning him out, though.

 

[amicus]

Hmmm...hello again, Cloudy, ya never know where a thread is going to go...

There is a commercial on television about a woman nagging a male driver about being too close to the car in front of him....but it appeared to be a good block and a half up there, way up there...but it made me think...

It isn't that way in modern times, but not so long ago, women were mainly spectators, on the sidelines insofar as driving, making decisions, being actively engaged in doing things outside children, teaching and nursing and still, all the while, being subject to male domination and subjugation in all aspects of life.

It followed too, that women were mainly passive in lovemaking, being made love to by the male, being the recipient of kisses and caresses and gifts and flowers and candy. I think you see my direction of thought and please do not assume I am saying go back to the way things were as I am not necessarily.

One can perhaps understand how women, with limited physical influence in the world about them, relied upon the sharpness of mind and wit and tongue to somewhat equalize the battle of the sexes.

I offer such things as this on the forum, not to excite peeps, but since many of us attempt to write and some of us deal with women as characters in set pieces and time pieces other than the contemporary period we live in.

Like the several recent, 'Cinderella' stories and 'Joan D'arc' tales of courageous women in the past and of course in sci fi, in the future, many characterize women in many different ways.

I think about such things and of course my own attempts at fabricating fictional women and girls and how they function in various worlds and environments...

By the way...and not to irritate you in any way, but a series, "The Revolution" is running again and a recent episode spoke of the 'Six Nations' and the various roles they played in the Revolutionary War, and not in a very complimentary way as they seemed to side with the British and the French against the Colonists....

History is quite fascinating, is it not?

Amicus...

 

[voluptuary_manque]

By the way...and not to irritate you in any way, but a series, "The Revolution" is running again and a recent episode spoke of the 'Six Nations' and the various roles they played in the Revolutionary War, and not in a very complimentary way as they seemed to side with the British and the French against the Colonists....

History is quite fascinating, is it not?
Amicus...

Given the results after the Revolution, the Iroquois League had it's strategy correct. Unfortunately for them, the colonists had the stronger allies and the British were plain inept.

 

[amicus]

Yes, I would agree...it was clear the colonists were there to stay and expanding into tribal grounds, while the British and the French might be dealt with as trading partners.

It is rather an amazing history in many ways, the war could have been easily lost, the Hessian Mercenaries could have turned the tide, the British Fleet might have been more effective...then again, the colonists almost took Canada, so many ifs and fictional alternative history scenario's; curious to read sometimes.

amicus...

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Yes, I would agree...it was clear the colonists were there to stay and expanding into tribal grounds, while the British and the French might be dealt with as trading partners.

It is rather an amazing history in many ways, the war could have been easily lost, the Hessian Mercenaries could have turned the tide, the British Fleet might have been more effective...then again, the colonists almost took Canada, so many ifs and fictional alternative history scenario's; curious to read sometimes.

amicus...

Canada has the distinction of being the only country in the world that has been invaded by the U.S. twice and repulsed us both times. I think they can take pride in that.

 

[cloudy]

Canada has the distinction of being the only country in the world that has been invaded by the U.S. twice and repulsed us both times. I think they can take pride in that.

They also, after a very rocky beginning, treat the First Nations people a little better than this country does.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Hmmm...hello again, Cloudy, ya never know where a thread is going to go...

(snip)

By the way...and not to irritate you in any way, but a series, "The Revolution" is running again and a recent episode spoke of the 'Six Nations' and the various roles they played in the Revolutionary War, and not in a very complimentary way as they seemed to side with the British and the French against the Colonists....

History is quite fascinating, is it not?

Amicus...

When were the British and the French ever allied against the colonists?

 

[voluptuary_manque]

They also, after a very rocky beginning, treat the First Nations people a little better than this country does.

Very rocky and, according to my First Nations/Canadian friend, very little better. The advantage the Canadian Nations have is that the land they live on, the European Canadians didn't want very much. I think its just a good thing that diamonds weren't discovered in the Arctic until the last decade or two or the story would have been very different.

Additionally, I suspect that reverse assimilation will happen faster here. You and I won't live to really see it but the first inklings exist. I don't see that in Canada where they are desparately trying to not assimilate the Quebecois who are the First Nations' main rival for recognition. It amuses me that the major roadblock to the Quebec independence is the upfront threat from the northern . . . Cree, I think, that if they try to become independent the Cree will seceed from Quebec and take all their hydroelectric power with them.

 

[Liar]

Domestic Scold Laws are so last centrury. If we bring them back, I demand the right to slap the snot out of anyone who annoys me.

 

[Guest]

Domestic Scold Laws are so last centrury. If we bring them back, I demand the right to slap the snot out of anyone who annoys me.

Oooh!

Now that's proper application of the law.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Domestic Scold Laws are so last centrury. If we bring them back, I demand the right to slap the snot out of anyone who annoys me.

But think how sore you hand would be by the end of the day! And as for a visit to Washington, D.C. . . . why a feller could suffer palm bruises that were downright terminal.

 

[The_Fool]

Oooh!

Now that's proper application of the law.

You just automatically equate slap and ass...

 

[amicus]

Well, actually, you do have the right to slap the snot out of anyone who annoys you.

However it is those damned consequences that might jump up and bite you; except in the case of women, who can belittle, berate and get in your face, slap and scratch and bite and if you even hold her down to keep her from breaking the flat screen in her rage....you are off to the pokey....and she flies off on her tampon with wings.

I vote for reviving Scold Laws and will offer the use of my Branks apparatus for a not so small fee.

ahem

ami

 

[Guest]

Scold Laws make me horny.

 

[The_Fool]

Scold Laws make me horny.

The wind blowing hard enough makes you horny...

 

[Guest]

The wind blowing hard enough makes you horny...

What do you take me for?!

Hmmm, ok, point taken.

 

[CharleyH]

Even Sweetsubsarahh is being nice to me on the forum so I must be doing something wrong and no one has called me a Misogynist, a hater of women, for the longest time, gotta fix that.

I was surfing channels the other night and ran across a piece on nagging wives and women and how they were dealt with in the past, actually, with laws remaining on the books in England until 1967.

Then at a local variety store, I was outside, waiting for a female of course, grabbing a surreptitious smoke, when a woman came out with mouth working and finger jabbing at a poor bedraggled male looking embarrassed and trying to walk faster away from the crowd.

What with the recent surge in 'domestic violence laws', a male is hard pressed to offer resistance to the sharp and unceasing tongue of a woman if she becomes hell bound to make her point and press the issue.

The time has passed that the poor male can just slap the shit out of her to shut her up.

Sometimes, it seems to me, there are no other alternatives save running away and maybe leaving kids and a house behind, who knows.

But...it wasn't always that way...


http://home.comcast.net/~burokerl/branks.htm

The Branks



~~~

Now....the women on this forum will froth and foam and the men, who might agree or not, will keep their silence, for fear of retribution should they dare offer kindly comment.

I do tire, however, during the current and continuing crusade against men for domestic violence, being of the opinion that the female instigates most of the confrontation and leaves the poor male with no option but to pop her a good one.

Or perhaps we could reinstitute that old Scold Law of the past and put the fear of the Branks into nagging women once again?

Heh, heh!



Amicus....always good for a tussle or a roll in the hay...(at least smile and chuckle at this before you throw something?

My friend? Women are over your kind.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Scolds' bridles were an abomination, but Ami does have a certain point.

I have heard of women camplaining of abusive partners, and I can sympathize, but I have also read about "verbal abuse" and of women saying it is just as bad. I don't know about that. I would be willing to bet that, generally speaking, women nag and revile their men much more than vice-versa. I am not referring to my current wife, but my previous wife was a hellion in that regard. If, after putting up with her verbal abuse, I had slugged her, knocking out a few teeth and breaking her nose, would I have been justified? I never did, mind you, but I was tempted.

 

[amicus]

You be a brave soul, Box, I doubted any would acknowledge the assertions or the history of the nagging women in our lives.

congrats...

ami

 

[Guest]

Scolds bridles were an abomination, but Ami does have a certain point.

I have heard of women camplaining of abusive partners, and I can sympathize, but I have also read about "verbal abuse" and of women saying it is just as bad. I don't know about that. I would be willing to bet that, generally speaking, women nag and revile their men much more than vice-versa. I am not referring to my current wife, but my previous wife was a hellion in that regard. If, after putting up with her verbal abuse, I had slugged her, knocking out a few teeth and breaking her nose, would I have been justified? I never did, mind you, but I was tempted.

Heavens. You're more adult than that.

 

[amicus]

Hi, Loulou, thanx for dropping by...Charly, u can be such a twit sometimes...

I love women, they are soft and have tits and a pussy and they usually smell good.

Little girls are adorable, spontaneous, carefree, bubblicious and just downright delightful until.....they discover they have something all the boys want.

Then...most of them sell it, in one way or another, at the highest price the market offers.

Even that is fine with me, totally natural for the weaker sex and one incapacitated monthly and then over a nine month period, I always cut the female a lil slack in this grown up world of men.

But when they put on men's clothes and walk like a man and talk like a man, and drink beer and fart and belch like a man, I start to wonder what the hell ever happened to women?

I could say so much more...but...I already have....))

Hi Charly...

ami

 

[Boxlicker101]

Hi, Loulou, thanx for dropping by...Charly, u can be such a twit sometimes...

I love women, they are soft and have tits and a pussy and they usually smell good.

Little girls are adorable, spontaneous, carefree, bubblicious and just downright delightful until.....they discover they have something all the boys want.

Then...most of them sell it, in one way or another, at the highest price the market offers.

Even that is fine with me, totally natural for the weaker sex and one incapacitated monthly and then over a nine month period, I always cut the female a lil slack in this grown up world of men.

But when they put on men's clothes and walk like a man and talk like a man, and drink beer and fart and belch like a man, I start to wonder what the hell ever happened to women?

I could say so much more...but...I already have....))

Hi Charly...

ami

It's the beer that makes them fart and belch.