Making Marks

[faeriefire]

I have a dilemma. I don't bruise. The only times I've managed to actually develop real bruises are as follows: fell 20 feet while rock climbing, tumbled off my bike down a cliff and hit a tree, was bucked off a galloping horse, jumped off a 30 foot suspension bridge into really deep water then spent the evening in an iceman competition (near hypothermia seemed to help them show up). As yet no sprains, strains or broken bones

A friend thought I should quit eating anything with iron. Someone else suggested I begin smoking lol. The final bit of wisdom was to give it 15 years and hope for an improvement But there must be another solution. The thing is my skin colors quickly, marks easily when struck. But within hours the color/mark/abrasion will fade to nothingness. A crop used like a cane managed to leave a stripe on me, but it was gone in about a day. Last weekend I asked for and recived a few hard bites meant to mark, but amazingly within a few hours there was nary a sign.

So other than letting someone throw me off a cliff what suggestions do you have for making marks that will last? Sabotaging my body doesn't seem like a great plan. And the pain threshold only goes so high. Do you have an easy or hard time getting marks to stay? What do you do if you want to mark/be marked? Where is the balance between staying healthy and having proof? Because in all honesty I want to be able to look at my body and recall what took place. Maybe it's just me but I kinda like visual reminders. And the bod just won't cooperate

So yeah...bruises...bites...abrasions...wounds...how do you make them and how do you keep them?

 

[Calabama]

LOL I WISH I had your problem! I bruise like an old banana! Master used to love how red my bottom would get.... and He adored that often He left finger marks without even meaning to.

You should have seen the bruises when he meant to put them there *Fond memories*

 

[CyberChas]

Wearing marks

If you want an experience you will still be able to feel for a while afterwards as a "reminder" of your previous scene, I would suggest CELL POPPING.

Just check out the thread by that name for details.

It was what I liked most about having mine, was that I could feel the healing and a slight "tingle" when I touched it for days later. And, as a plus, it is a DESIGN, not just random welts or bruises.

 

[YourCaptor]

If the pain is not enough to make you cry, you don't deserve a bruise.

 

[faeriefire]

But it did...

 

[BiBunny]

Don't stop ingesting iron, that's for sure! I'm anemic as hell, and, let me tell, it is NO FUN AT ALL!

Because I'm anemic, I mark if you look at me the wrong way. But I mark more easily in some areas than in others, like anybody else. Areas with soft, pale skin where the blood vessels are close to the surface of the skin mark better. The ass, actually, is not an easily markable place. The breasts are much better for that. Having the breasts bound tightly enough that circulation is somewhat restricted (and therefore the blood pools there) and then having them hit with a crop or something will generally leave marks. The upper arms and inner thighs mark well, too.

For the record, the only implement that's ever left lasting marks on my ass was a belt. And it was applied with no fucking mercy.

 

[Millificent]

I generally have the same "problem". Marks will disappear within hours or a day. The marks that have lasted thus far have been a scar (made on purpose), my tat, marks from zippers, and some fabulous bite marks. The bite marks that bruise tend to be in certain areas (for example, bite marks on my stomach will bruise while bite marks on my shoulders don't usually), are done way hard (I can almost feel his teeth meeting), and on one, he bit me in the same place twice.

Almost forgot...we tried cell popping yesterday and so far the marks are still there. I'm interested in seeing how long it will take before they fade.

 

[madetotakeit]

I don't bruise easily either, and like you faeire () I love the idea of marks that would last as a reminder. Of course I've never come close to reaching my pain threshold so I may have never had that much force used. *shrug*

Bites however..those last for a nice long time, especially if they were hard enough to draw blood.


As far as options other than those mentioned above, the cupping left some very nice marks that looked like the would stay around for quite awhile. Although to me the thought of how you get them is as important as having the marks in the first place, but that's just the masochist in me talking.

 

[YourCaptor]

But it did...

Bruising is basically bleeding under the skin, so try hitting the same spot hard about 30 times. Sometimes it takes a while, but once you rupture something you get a nice black or blue stain. For instant bruising I would recommend a staff about 1.25 inches in diameter, but you really need to be careful as those are also deadly weapons.

I wish you lots of agony, and pain that lingers in your bones.

 

[Homburg]

If the pain is not enough to make you cry, you don't deserve a bruise.

What the fuck?

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Ignoring that, your skin is pretty tough, FF. Jute usually leaves a mark. While I didn't tie it super-tight, we should've still seen mor emarks than we saw. It could just be a quality of your skin and body. I don't bruise worth a damn either (not a problem for me, of course). Last year I was trail-riding, caught a hazard badly and went over my handlebars. I came down hard enough to fracture a bone in my left forearm (didn't realise it and finished of the trail then rode another after), and even a fractured bone didn't register as enough impact to bruise.

Some people just don't bruise, so look for your marks in other ways. Cell popping has been mentioned, and you could also do heavy abrasion play, as well as play piercings, cuttings, branding, etc. You could work on lateral skin contusions. While I don't bruise, I will make the inside of my thighs look like hell from grabbing the seat horn between them on jumps and such. The stretching of the skin causes marks even in me. Applying pinches, pliers, etc could cause lateral contusions.

If you want marks, and are willing to endure trauma, marks will happen.

ETA: While viv doesn't really bruise, she has. The implement you use has a MAJOR effect on the bruises produced. While I've not seen her bruise to most things, the Black Cane brought some truly impressive bruises out. I'm not surprised that she did not mention it, as it has emotional connotations that we will not get into, but it is worth mentioning.

The Black Cane is a 3/8" diameter (or so) black cane made of delrin plastic. Unbreakable, and can be bent so the ends touch, it is easily the most vicious "toy" in my collection. Just some light test swats on the bottom of my forearm left ugly red welts, and hurt like a motherfucker on fire.

 

[faeriefire]

Ignoring that, your skin is pretty tough, FF. <snip> Some people just don't bruise, so look for your marks in other ways. Cell popping has been mentioned, and you could also do heavy abrasion play, as well as play piercings, cuttings, branding, etc. You could work on lateral skin contusions. While I don't bruise, I will make the inside of my thighs look like hell from grabbing the seat horn between them on jumps and such. The stretching of the skin causes marks even in me. Applying pinches, pliers, etc could cause lateral contusions.

If you want marks, and are willing to endure trauma, marks will happen.

Thanks for this. Part of the issue is an aversion to serious bloodletting or permanent branding/tatting. I've never had deep cuts, but I did have a sentence cut into my calf from ankle to knee once just deep enough to bead blood. Healed really fast. No visible scarring. Obviously if it had been recut multiple times it would have lasted longer and be more visible, but the thought of doing that again...I dunno. I've also been badly burned accidentally by power tools, animal branding irons and clothes irons. No visible scars. Took a month or two but my skin fixed itself.

On a mental level I like the thought of being marked again and again, but I don't want spiderwebbed scars all over. Part of the appeal in bruising, esp. from teeth or another's hand is it is intimate and feral. Wounds can be hit and escalated or allowed to fade. Bruises can be made again and again and the body will heal them without permanently destroying skin. So there's always potential for more claiming, possessing, marking. I did just peruse Catalina's abrasion post and that might be something I look into more... along with clips and zippers I suppose.

As for trauma, I think my body can take it, or at least will be able to in the future. It's a matter of building my pain threshold up to the point that I can withstand enough to actually mark in the first place. Because right now what it takes to bruise me is pretty extreme. And even when I have gotten deep bruises they heal quickly. I guess I'll just need to up the pain threshold to the point I can handle being hit in the same spot repeatedly. The thought of being punched hard or slammed with a baseball bat just doesn't do it for me. I like pain, but not that much.

Part of the reason I wanted some alternative ideas was the thought that if someone goes about trying to mark me it'll be rather challenging. But then I guess the marks will be all the more rewarding when I do manage to earn some

 

[EmpressFi]

If the pain is not enough to make you cry, you don't deserve a bruise.

What the fuck?

I'm with Homburg on that.

actually most of the best bruises I've ever gotten have not made me cry, but have made me moan and nearly come. (I've had them as my AV's)

Since my weight loss, I seem to bruise more easily now, or they're just easier to notice. But I've always bruised easily, but most of my marks, unless they include many swats with the thuddy things: the cane, paddle, crop, etc, I get plenty of welts that I'll feel the next day.. I love that feeling.. and plenty of red marks, but they're usually gone by morning.. the marks, not the welts.

But to bruise my ass, I need lots of hitting in the SDS..same damn spot..

but seriously.. what's with the cry business

 

[faeriefire]

I wish you lots of agony, and pain that lingers in your bones.

Thankee YC. What a lovely thing to say

 

[gloriann]

I mark pretty easily and wear my marks with pride, and take the pain with my pleasure... but... I have not cried, nor felt the need to. I don't get the crying thing either.

 

[Homburg]

Thanks for this.

You're welcome.

Part of the issue is an aversion to serious bloodletting or permanent branding/tatting. I've never had deep cuts, but I did have a sentence cut into my calf from ankle to knee once just deep enough to bead blood. Healed really fast. No visible scarring. Obviously if it had been recut multiple times it would have lasted longer and be more visible, but the thought of doing that again...I dunno. I've also been badly burned accidentally by power tools, animal branding irons and clothes irons. No visible scars. Took a month or two but my skin fixed itself.

Yup, you definitely sound like me. Remember the bike wreck I mentioned above? I ripped a strip of skin off that arm that was 2.5" x 11". A year later there some minor discolouration. Nothing else. And this was a serious loss of skin. I've had some very serious scars fade away, and don't think I currently have any, aside from the discolouration I mentioned.

On a mental level I like the thought of being marked again and again, but I don't want spiderwebbed scars all over. Part of the appeal in bruising, esp. from teeth or another's hand is it is intimate and feral. Wounds can be hit and escalated or allowed to fade. Bruises can be made again and again and the body will heal them without permanently destroying skin. So there's always potential for more claiming, possessing, marking. I did just peruse Catalina's abrasion post and that might be something I look into more... along with clips and zippers I suppose.

Makes sense. And the resources you're perusing will serve you well.

As for trauma, I think my body can take it, or at least will be able to in the future. It's a matter of building my pain threshold up to the point that I can withstand enough to actually mark in the first place. Because right now what it takes to bruise me is pretty extreme. And even when I have gotten deep bruises they heal quickly. I guess I'll just need to up the pain threshold to the point I can handle being hit in the same spot repeatedly. The thought of being punched hard or slammed with a baseball bat just doesn't do it for me. I like pain, but not that much.

Part of the reason I wanted some alternative ideas was the thought that if someone goes about trying to mark me it'll be rather challenging. But then I guess the marks will be all the more rewarding when I do manage to earn some

Absolutely. I wish you luck.

 

[twysted73]

You're adorable.
I've never seen someone seeking out marks in such a fashion.

Crop as a cane?? BASTARD! (sounds like my kinda sadist)

Hmm..sounds like you have some serious Wolverining going on there.
Cell popping was suggested and it sounds like a damn good rout.
Your skin is so fair tho. Amazing.
Well I wish you the very best of luck in your search for marking or being marked.

Next time tell the biting guy to go a little harder.

I WANNA DO SOME BITES DAMNIT!

 

[EmpressFi]

You're adorable.
I've never seen someone seeking out marks in such a fashion.

Crop as a cane?? BASTARD! (sounds like my kinda sadist)

Hmm..sounds like you have some serious Wolverining going on there.
Cell popping was suggested and it sounds like a damn good rout.
Your skin is so fair tho. Amazing.
Well I wish you the very best of luck in your search for marking or being marked.

Next time tell the biting guy to go a little harder.

I WANNA DO SOME BITES DAMNIT!

What's wrong with using a crop as a cane???


and yes.... biting is yummy... both Malin and Master are very good at it

 

[YourCaptor]

What the fuck?

I'm with Homburg on that.

Added in a little style, thought she may not be hitting hard enough.

Anyway, I just remember, the secret to a serious bruise is consecutive trauma in the same spot. Now I don’t recommend you do this, but if you where to hypothetically tie something around you writs, and then tie it to the bed post, and then accidentally forget to untie it, and then in your sleep twist and turn and struggle against it, then the next morning you should have a nice black ring around your writs that is bound to raise a few eyebrows.

 

[alexanna]

Bruising is basically bleeding under the skin, so try hitting the same spot hard about 30 times. Sometimes it takes a while, but once you rupture something you get a nice black or blue stain. For instant bruising I would recommend a staff about 1.25 inches in diameter, but you really need to be careful as those are also deadly weapons.

I wish you lots of agony, and pain that lingers in your bones.

This is how we do it. i like marks but even more than that i enjoy the soreness for days afterward and repeatedly hitting the same spot works the best. He has also used the side of a belt to make small bruises but they were more superficial. i do not generally bruise from the flat side of the belt or the crop and it can even be hard to acheive with the cane sometimes. A 3 ft long piece of black plastic irrigation pipe is usually his implement of choice applied repeatedly to the same spot if the goal of the session is a deeply bruised and knotty behind. The rope flogger he made also makes nice little knots.

 

[Evil_Geoff]

You want marks for days? Do cupping.

Fire or vacuum pump type.

Leave them in place for a while. I had a gal showing off one of the circles I did on her 4 weeks after the scene.

'Nuff said.

 

[alexanna]

You want marks for days? Do cupping.

Fire or vacuum pump type.

Leave them in place for a while. I had a gal showing off one of the circles I did on her 4 weeks after the scene.

'Nuff said.

yikes... Do they stay sore??

 

[Evil_Geoff]

yikes... Do they stay sore??

She didn't say...

 

[YourCaptor]

You want marks for days? Do cupping.

Fire or vacuum pump type.

Leave them in place for a while. I had a gal showing off one of the circles I did on her 4 weeks after the scene.

'Nuff said.

Agreed, the x once had one of these done for “stress relief”. For the next month she was stressed out about not having enough clothes that could hide the mark.

 

[BiBunny]

yikes... Do they stay sore??

For a day or two. After that, they're all just for show.

 

[catalina_francisco]

I used to in the beginning bruise black and blue with hard sessions, and which would remain days to a week depending on the severity. It did used to have to be after fairly hard play though. That being said, those days are long gone and the best we seem to be able to manage is a bruise for anything between an hour to maybe 6 hours at most.

Cutting back on iron will not be guaranteed to change that, and I agree, would be silly to do. I recently had a major health crisis for the second time (got told again I should have been dead) and which I am still being treated for and recovering from which resulted from my being so anemic I had barely any iron in my blood at all...still didn't bruise from a heavy session...whipping, flogging, caning, crops, biting...all nothing. I have exceptionally soft and pale skin (so I am told repeatedly), and that also has no impact on the situation. Surprisingly, I can knock my arm or leg lightly on something throughout the day and bruise in a manner which will at times remain for a few days...go figure.

Cuts and abrasions from play begin healing almost immediately which is in strong contrast to my keloid scarring from medical situations and even light cat scratches which have resulted in keloid scarring. The recent cutting we did with the scalpel has once again healed too well (and it did have blood flowing, not just a scratch on the surface), and even my brand, as much as it killed all the nerve endings in the area so I didn't feel it after the first millisecond, and definitely branded me in a way which for most would be permanent and severe, has healed way better than we wanted and so will need to be done again. All I can come up with is the body adapts to certain things such as impact/pain play because for a time if we changed what we did it would sometimes give a bruise for a bit longer, but even that doesn't work now, nor does harder. Sometimes repeatedly working on a specific area (say 2-4 heavy sessions on the same area within a few hours) can sometimes, though rarely, result in marking for a few hours more but doesn't seem to be infallible either. So not much help to you.

Catalina