Republican Party Meltdown. Nothing Left But Scared Old White Men.

[Plainly_Jane]

Astute observations.

Thank you.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Naaah. The 2008 election guarantees a Republican President for another 50 years. McCain, Hillary, and Obama are same-same and will produce the same results. That is you'll work your ass off to pay Boomer retirees, Mexicans, and the usual suspects all the welfare bennies they depend on and feel entitled to.

There wont be shit left for you or your kids.

You'll wake up and note that prisoners and crack addicts live better than you do.

And you'll observe that its never the rich that get soaked for taxes. Its you.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Amen.





The first post had more than a sprinkling of wishful thinking in the face of polling data...

 

[RobDownSouth]

Amen.





The first post had more than a sprinkling of wishful thinking in the face of polling data...

Well, if anyone on this board is familiar with "sprinkling of wishful thinking" it'd be you, Dances With Falsehoods.

 

[Derya]

Well and Hillary just wants to be able to tell her fuckwad of a husband,,, see I can do it too!

bbeeeaaayyyuuuuteeefuuuulllllll!!!!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I'm convinced Hillary wants to be one of the Elites like Bush, Kennedy, Kerry, Rockefeller et al.

She's spent her entire life collecting enough stamps to redeem for a spot on America's Mt. Olympus.

Here's her problem: She's married to Jed Clampett of Arkansas, and she's a Great Girl from Chicago. Not a debutante or heiress or daughter of anyone important. Her pedigree is mediocre.

Like Melanie said in 1971...she done alright for a girl.

 

[Guest]

We need no pity we will be responsible for the next 8 years!

I only ask you one question, Tell us what the Dems offer to change anything?

1. Exit strategy and pullout from Iraq, thereby improving our foreign affairs, slowing our surging deficit, and enabling the recovery of our military forces.

2. Addressing the gaping national security problem of illegal immigration and border security.

3. Reinstating our citizens' rights by restoring accountability to our national intelligence agencies.

4. Working to bring the deficit back under control through fiscal responsibility.

5. Restoring diplomacy as a legitimate means of problem-solving, and warfare as a last resort.

6. Providing for the health care of the working class of our country.

7. Making a commitment to the exploration of alternative fuel sources to reduce and eventually eliminate our reliance on foreign countries.

8. Stimulate the economy by cutting tax breaks to American companies who export jobs overseas.

9. Stimulate the economy by re-assessing trade agreements and eliminating those with countries who do not share our employment and safety standards.

10. Focusing the American publics' attention on the real things that matter in their lives, rather that banging the drums of religion or scandal or fear.


Those sure sound like some big changes to me...

 

[firespin]

Democratic turn out is breaking records.

A lot of this is twenty-somethings who are getting political for the first time. The question is whether they lose interest by November. Young people tend not to vote as reliably as older people. Maybe the chance to vote for Obama will change that this time. Or, it could be that he would be so "last February" by November for a generation that has moved from Myspace to Facebook to ...

 

[Guest]

A lot of this is twenty-somethings who are getting political for the first time. The question is whether they lose interest by November. Young people tend not to vote as reliably as older people. Maybe the chance to vote for Obama will change that this time. Or, it could be that he would be so "last February" by November for a generation that has moved from Myspace to Facebook to ...

Of course Obama has the 20-somethings-- they traditionally make up a large chunk of the Liberal base. What is more interesting to me (and just about everybody else who's really thinking about it) is how many moderate votes he's pulling. Obama is rapidly gaining ground among moderates, white women, and upper middle class voters. The fact is that he's taking a broader demographic spectrum than Hillary is, and he's doing it all over the fucking country.

Whether the "20 something vote" holds out or not, he's still got the pull to get the job done.

 

[firespin]

Of course Obama has the 20-somethings-- they traditionally make up a large chunk of the Liberal base. What is more interesting to me (and just about everybody else who's really thinking about it) is how many moderate votes he's pulling. Obama is rapidly gaining ground among moderates, white women, and upper middle class voters. The fact is that he's taking a broader demographic spectrum than Hillary is, and he's doing it all over the fucking country.

Whether the "20 something vote" holds out or not, he's still got the pull to get the job done.

I was just addressing the record turnout aspect. The biggest percentage increases in participation are among young people, and they made the difference in some key early contests. Now that Hilary is losing the votes of those who plan to support the "likely winner", she's down to the core set of people who want her in office, and that's not a large group. Or not as large as the group that don't want her, at any rate.

Obama is a fresh face with a compelling personality and style, though with few accomplishments at the national level. It's easy for people to see him as accomplishing whatever they want to happen. Hopes and expectations are always highest at the start of a new relationship.