Underage incest fantasys

[Boxlicker101]

Although I don't want to get into the habit of agreeing with Amicus, I believe he does have a point. Sexual activity between an adult and a very young child doesn't have to be traumatic, and can actually be pleasurable for both. Here is the kind of thing I mean, although I don't know how common this might be.

A loving father says to his six year old daughter: "Princess, I've got a real fun game I want to play with you."

And the loving daughter responds: "Okay, Daddy."

And the game turns out to be mutual masturbation. He cums all over her soft little hands and he gently rubs her slit until she gets a nice, warm feeling, and they both enjoy it. She enjoys doing something nice with her daddy and for him, and also the nice feeling he gave her. He gets his rocks off.

She has suffered no trauma of any kind, and it's not until years later that she learns she has been bad, and her loving daddy was an evil man, does any psychological trauma occur. This is purely hypothetical, of course.

I also realize that vaginal or anal rape by her father would be very traumatic, both physically and emotionally and every other way. As I said, it depends on what is done and who does it.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

What I mean about imagination and lying is this: Is it okay with you morally to write stories you know are lies? That Jews enjoyed marching to the gas chambers? That blacks enjoyed slavery? That women enjoy rape? That women are inferior to men?

Those are all works of imagination, but they're not okay for me to write myself, because I know them to be lies and my conscience would bother me. I see my job as an author to be primarily one of uncovering the truths of the world, and while I may bend these truths for the sake of entertainment or to get at other truths, I have my limits.

I suppose I could imagine a case where a pre-teen enjoys sex with her father, but it would be so exceptional and anomalous that I'd might as well write about her enjoying sex with a rhinocerous. And even so, my first source of emotional information on father-daughter incest is going to be my own feelings towards my daughter, just as if I were writing about a death my first source of emotional information would be my own reaction to death, because my experiences are reality to me.

And why shouldn't they be? What am I avoiding by ignoring my own fatherly feelings? Is there something in there that's too shameful to be faced so that the only way I can write dad-daughter incest is by using imagined surrogates whose emotions are safely insulated and sanitized so that they no longer threaten me or anyone? That seems to be the tactic I usually see in incest stories.

Write what you know is the dictum, and if you want to write father-daughter incest, then start with the honest story of you fucking your own daughter. Anything else is a cop-out.

 

[Stella_Omega]

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[Stella_Omega]

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Another friend who confided in my told of sex with her three male cousins at different times. By the last she said she felt loved and enjoyed it until she realized she was being raped over an over again when she was old enough to appreciate what was going on.
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unfortunately, answers your supposition, Box;

..She has suffered no trrauma of any kind, and it's not until years later that she learns she has been bad, and her loving daddy was an evil man, does any psychological trauma occur. This is purely hypothetical, of course...

And you know-- we are children only for a short time, and adults for much, much longer. The child might not feel harmed for all of her twelve or so years-- the teen and adult will have to deal.

What I mean about imagination and lying is this: Is it okay with you morally to write stories you know are lies? That Jews enjoyed marching to the gas chambers? That blacks enjoyed slavery? That women enjoy rape? That women are inferior to men?

No, I cannot write anything that tried to glorify these lies, or any others that have pernicious effect on society. Doc, this entire post-

 

[amicus]

I can't leave this alone although I know I most likely should, but Mab and Stella are either baiting people or looking for confimations for their own guilt.

I take it that means neither could write a Godzilla or King Kong story, since it would be a lie and dishonest to write about it unless it were real.

And would even consider a Victorian novel set in times when women indeed were property and not really citizens at all. There would be no novels like the Diary of Ann Frank and no one would ever know the horrors of the concentration camps except those few that survived.

And I almost think neither raised daughers, although I think each has attested to it, for they would know without a doubt that little girls love their daddies and seek whatever attention they can get, by any means.

A rational, loving, caring adult does not harm a child in any way. The standard of conduct is to protect our children from anything that might threaten them.

Are there sick and perverted people in the world; do some children suffer forever from molestation ,abuse and neglect; should we not create stories that may bring these things to light and perhaps alleviate the pain?

Further than that, as a political issue, for those who challenge each and every moral absolute, do not both above insist their values are absolute and correct and that anyone else who does not agree is immoral?

Gads...

Somebody had to say it.

Amicus...

 

[Stella_Omega]

Please give us a link to some of the other forums, where you pretend to be subjectively moral.

 

[elsol]

Although I don't want to get into the habit of agreeing with Amicus, I believe he does have a point. Sexual activity between an adult and a very young child doesn't have to be traumatic, and can actually be peasurable for both. Here is the kind of thing I mean, although I don't know how common this might be.

A loving father says to his six year old daughter: "Princess, I've got a real fun game I want to play with you."

And the loving daughter responds: "Okay, Daddy."

And the game turns out to be mutual masturbation. He cums all over her soft little hands and he gently rubs her slit until she gets a nice, warm feeling, and they both enjoy it. She enjoys doing something nice with her daddy and for him, and also the nice feeling he gave her. He gets his rocks off.

She has suffered no trrauma of any kind, and it's not until years later that she learns she has been bad, and her loving daddy was an evil man, does any psychological trauma occur. This is purely hypothetical, of course.

I also realize that vaginal or anal rape by her father would be very traumatic, both physically and emotionally and every other way. As I said, it depends on what is done and who does it.

The problem here is you don't know what the child is thinking, what is going on during their developmental stages.

There are three possibilities: Neutral, Harm, Benefit.

The Benefit might be irrelevant to the child's development... could end up being a fine upstanding citizen, sexually confident, and has a great relationship with dad anyway.

The results of the harm might happen though other means; but then again, daddy didn't cause it.

Neutral is meaningless.

Therefore I see this as playing russian roulette with the child, except daddy gets paid no matter what the results.

I'm sure there are well-intentioned harms every parent has to deal with; this is one I cannot get behind even if you offer me your child to play russian roulette with.

I've never seen the point to certain types of gambling...like adjustable mortgage rates

 

[dr_mabeuse]

And I almost think neither raised daughers, although I think each has attested to it, for they would know without a doubt that little girls love their daddies and seek whatever attention they can get, by any means.

If you don't know the difference between fatherly affection and fucking, then you've managed to blaze new trails into the subregions of hellish ignorance. What did you do? Put your daughters in their cribs and then stick your finger up their pussies?

A rational, loving, caring adult does not harm a child in any way. The standard of conduct is to protect our children from anything that might threaten them.

Then let's have it Amicus. Let's have the story of the rational, loving, caring Amicus fucking his own daughter. Tell us just how it went down and how well it all worked out.

And if you can't tell it, then why can't you?

 

[Boxlicker101]

If you don't know the difference between fatherly affection and fucking, then you've managed to blaze new trails into the subregions of hellish ignorance. What did you do? Put your daughters in their cribs and then stick your finger up their pussies?

Then let's have it Amicus. Let's have the story of the rational, loving, caring Amicus fucking his own daughter. Tell us just how it went down and how well it all worked out.

And if you can't tell it, then why can't you?

C'mon, Zoot. You can't seriously believe somebody doesn't know the difference between affectionate parenting and fucking their children.

 

[Stella_Omega]

C'mon, Zoot. You can't seriously believe somebody doesn't know the difference between affectionate parenting and fucking their children.

I don't know, it seems pretty believable, in the circumstances.

 

[cantdog]

His forays into romance are always so galumphing. Thank you, Mr. Dodgson, for that word. Evocative of a nelephant, or, according to Milne, a heffalump.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I don't know, it seems pretty believable, in the circumstances.

I dunno. I could believe a lot about Amicus, but that seems a bit over the top.

 

[ms.read]

If you don't know the difference between fatherly affection and fucking, then you've managed to blaze new trails into the subregions of hellish ignorance. What did you do? Put your daughters in their cribs and then stick your finger up their pussies?



Then let's have it Amicus. Let's have the story of the rational, loving, caring Amicus fucking his own daughter. Tell us just how it went down and how well it all worked out.

And if you can't tell it, then why can't you?

i think that htis person should be removed from lit due the pornographic nasty image he is displaying with this post.

 

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[ms.read]

You know I have been following this thread a bit , for awhile now.

Let's get this straight, whether you (the thinker, writer, and /or reader of child porn) like to think, write, or read child porn meaning anything under the age of eighteen here, Laurel and Manu don't want themselves or thier website being associated with anything of that sort, because the people who tend to roam in those circles (such as yourselves) tend to get yourself into some illegal trouble. So, you are allowed to think about the sexual activities of people of a minor age, it is illegal to distribute and or hold any kind of matter pertaining to that subject. SO STOP SPEWING YOUR NASTY ICKY CHILD SEX THOUGHTS THROUGH OUT THIS FORUM/WEBSITE. You're making me sick!

 

[Stella_Omega]

I dunno. I could believe a lt about Amicus, but that seems a bit over the top.

It doesn't to me.

 

[Stella_Omega]

You know I have been following this thread a bit , for awhile now.

Let's get this straight, whether you (the thinker, writer, and /or reader of child porn) like to think, write, or read child porn meaning anything under the age of eighteen here, Laurel and Manu don't want themselves or thier website being associated with anything of that sort, because the people who tend to roam in those circles (such as yourselves) tend to get yourself into some illegal trouble. So, you are allowed to think about the sexual activities of people of a minor age, it is illegal to distribute and or hold any kind of matter pertaining to that subject. SO STOP SPEWING YOUR NASTY ICKY CHILD SEX THOUGHTS THROUGH OUT THIS FORUM/WEBSITE. You're making me sick!

misread, how appropriate is your name!

My advice to you is to put the name incestfantasy on ignore. You can do that at this link;
http://forum.literotica.com/profile.php?do=editlist

I hate to think of you being sick because of the words you've read on the internets.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Oh, pish.

Read anything amicus has posted. Read Box's post earlier on this page - #376.

And grow up.

Actually, I don't believe my post was even pornographic. It seems more clinical to me, with words like vaginal and anal and mutual masturbation.

You know, Ms. Read, you really don't have to read this thread if you find it to be icky or if it makes you sick.

 

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[elsol]

Actually, I don't believe my post was even pornographic. It seems more clinical to me, with words like vaginal and anal and mutual masturbation.

You know, Ms. Read, you really don't have to read this thread if you find it to be icky or if it makes you sick.

ms. read suggested enforced chastity belt wearing for anyone under 18.

Do you really think not reading or putting people on ignore is an acceptable option here?

I'd watch out, dude... 'cause you're on a watch list now--the word for you in the next 2 years should be 'entrapment'. I'd also buy one of those hidden camera sweepers.

 

[cloudy]

You know I have been following this thread a bit , for awhile now.

Let's get this straight, whether you (the thinker, writer, and /or reader of child porn) like to think, write, or read child porn meaning anything under the age of eighteen here, Laurel and Manu don't want themselves or thier website being associated with anything of that sort, because the people who tend to roam in those circles (such as yourselves) tend to get yourself into some illegal trouble. So, you are allowed to think about the sexual activities of people of a minor age, it is illegal to distribute and or hold any kind of matter pertaining to that subject. SO STOP SPEWING YOUR NASTY ICKY CHILD SEX THOUGHTS THROUGH OUT THIS FORUM/WEBSITE. You're making me sick!

Sure, but its okay for ami to advocate child sex and for you to want to write it, but then you read all sorts of things into Dr. M's post that aren't there.

Yep, Stella's right...."misread" is a wonderful name for you. And, I agree...grow up.

 

[ms.read]

ms. read suggested enforced chastity belt wearing for anyone under 18.

Do you really think not reading or putting people on ignore is an acceptable option here?

I'd watch out, dude... 'cause you're on a watch list now--the word for you in the next 2 years should be 'entrapment'. I'd also buy one of those hidden camera sweepers.

the chastity belt thing is for people who don't have enough common sense in thier head to keep thier legs shut so they dont have to pay the consequences of getting pregnant before they are ready to raise a child. I would reccomend that for anyone, under and OVER eighteen. There were six 7th graders when I was in High school that had kids of thier own. kids at that age are a major burden, and I do not believe in abortion.

"I'd watch out, dude... 'cause you're on a watch list now--the word for you in the next 2 years should be 'entrapment'. I'd also buy one of those hidden camera sweepers."

Were you talking to me or the guy who started this thread? Oh and BTW Im a girl.

 

[elsol]

Sure, but its okay for ami to advocate child sex and for you to want to write it, but then you read all sorts of things into Dr. M's post that aren't there.

Yep, Stella's right...."misread" is a wonderful name for you. And, I agree...grow up.

I think ms.read meant Boxlicker for his little incestous, underage snippet.

Although to be honest, Dr. Mab's was also incestous and underage... though Ami is old enough that his daughters would not be underage...

*sigh*

But again--let's remember ms.read seriously suggest chastity belts for everyone under 18...

I found that highly amusing and would gladly watch while ms.read suggested to anyone in say... harlem, that ms.read wants to put their children in something that greatly resembles a shackle.

Fuck it, I would love to see someone suggest this to any woman like my mom... Oh boy, the shit and the tornado would meet.

 

[ms.read]

do they have an emoticon for sarcasm here? Clearly nobody got the message... i should edit that. My humor is lost on most....

Anyway. the little yelling fit was towards the person who first suggested that they wanted child porn stuff. not towards stella, elsol, Dr. M. or Box, or cloudy, or anyone in the current conversation. (sorry if I missed your name.)

Dr M. (whispering ) pretty please dont say stuff about fingers and kids in the same sentance unless they are picking thier nose? Please?

 

[amicus]

ms.read...dunno quite where you coming from or the direction in which you proceed....but I I think I ruffled the feathers and pricked the ego of a few supressed personalities and latent pedophiles and scared the hell of them by suggesting that this subject can and should be discussed on a writer's forum

As usual, they play the role of the bitchy female and nagging wife and begin berating the messenger...typical behavior from this lot...they are just blohards, don't think a second thought about them, my, dear...Happy New Year!



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