Loving Wives in a Harem

[Shendude]

A variant on the cheating wives idea:

Back in the days of kings, sultans, and what have you, Harems were guarded and adminstered by eunuchs, men who'd been castrated in the belief that this would keep them from interfering with the king or whatever's women.

But one does not neccesarily need a penis to please a woman, as we now know. Further more, castration didn't always work (if you castrate someone after he's completed puberty then he still might be able to get it up).

Thoughts?

 

[jeninflorida]

A variant on the cheating wives idea:

Back in the days of kings, sultans, and what have you, Harems were guarded and adminstered by eunuchs, men who'd been castrated in the belief that this would keep them from interfering with the king or whatever's women.

But one does not neccesarily need a penis to please a woman, as we now know. Further more, castration didn't always work (if you castrate someone after he's completed puberty then he still might be able to get it up).

Thoughts?

hum....i think this will touch the arib world....as in some countries men are allowed and encouraged to have multi wives. Now, I dont know if this is the norm or rumors (like utah)....

so one of the wives has an affair with a guard?

 

[Fantasies_only]

A variant on the cheating wives idea:

Back in the days of kings, sultans, and what have you, Harems were guarded and adminstered by eunuchs, men who'd been castrated in the belief that this would keep them from interfering with the king or whatever's women.

But one does not neccesarily need a penis to please a woman, as we now know. Further more, castration didn't always work (if you castrate someone after he's completed puberty then he still might be able to get it up).

Thoughts?

First, just a little nitpicking.
The penis is a symbol of greatness or ranking in many cultures.
The longer it is, the more invinsible the possesor may seem to be, yet it's also a fertility symbol, something that frequently attracts (usually multiple) women.
To prevent the man from having more women than the Sultan or ensure he is shunned by the town, he was literally castrated on the spot.

I don't understand that last line.

 

[snooper]

A variant on the cheating wives idea:

Back in the days of kings, sultans, and what have you, Harems were guarded and adminstered by eunuchs, men who'd been castrated in the belief that this would keep them from interfering with the king or whatever's women.

But one does not neccesarily need a penis to please a woman, as we now know. Further more, castration didn't always work (if you castrate someone after he's completed puberty then he still might be able to get it up).

Thoughts?

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[emap]

Shameless Hijack Begins:

Snoop, you are such an attention whore.

Shameless Hijack Over:

 

[Shendude]

First, just a little nitpicking.
The penis is a symbol of greatness or ranking in many cultures.
The longer it is, the more invinsible the possesor may seem to be, yet it's also a fertility symbol, something that frequently attracts (usually multiple) women.
To prevent the man from having more women than the Sultan or ensure he is shunned by the town, he was literally castrated on the spot.

I don't understand that last line.

That makes no sense, and has no real relation to the topic at hand.

 

[Fantasies_only]

That makes no sense, and has no real relation to the topic at hand.

I disigree.
It does make sense, and I am correcting the first part of what you said.
I agree one can arouse a woman without a penis, but I still don't understand what you mean by "can still get it up."

 

[Shendude]

I disigree.
It does make sense, and I am correcting the first part of what you said.
I agree one can arouse a woman without a penis, but I still don't understand what you mean by "can still get it up."

Castration involves removing the testicles, not the entirety of the genitals. The idea being that, in doing so, the eunuchs becomes unable to become sexually aroused, and thus unable to mess around with the women in the harem.

However, if a man has already passed puberty when he's castrated, that doesn't always work.

 

[Fantasies_only]

Castration involves removing the testicles, not the entirety of the genitals. The idea being that, in doing so, the eunuchs becomes unable to become sexually aroused, and thus unable to mess around with the women in the harem.

However, if a man has already passed puberty when he's castrated, that doesn't always work.

Penectomy is what both of us mistook this for.
It is not the removal of the penis or testies, but creating the inability to have active sperm by harming the testicles.
As a result, castration has the effect of perminant impotance.
At any age, one who has this done would not be able to get erect, but I could be wrong (see Vasectomy).

Edit: I am wrong!
Sorry about that.

 

[snooper]

... in some countries men are allowed and encouraged to have multi wives. Now, I dont know if this is the norm or rumors (like utah) ...

Yes - under the law of many Moslem countries up to four wives are permitted. The drawback is four mothers-in-law!

 

[emap]

The number goes up for sheiks, I've heard tales of a sheik and his 100 wives. Often I beleive he gets so many just to get people to listen to him, he has a wife or wives from each tribe that lives in his area, well so to speak with those tribes.

I think the funniest part, no way one man can keep 100 wives happy sexually, I bet the guards were given free reign to screw them just so he can sleep.

Actually something of the same thing with 4 wives, especially young wives.

Now as far as I know, in the middle east the wives all stayed in one building, which more or less meant alot of tricky sex with guards or outside guys, though I bet the lesbian affairs among themselves was pretty easy, which would happen when your stuck with alot of women and not enough cock.

However, elsewhere with multiple wives for one guy, they stay in seperate houses, which would make for a very easy time screwing around, you know when husband is coming over, the other times, you have a couple of studs taking turns with you.

 

[snooper]

The number goes up for sheiks, I've heard tales of a sheik and his 100 wives.

Pardon my impertinence, but legally it doesn't in the Middle East. 96 of the 100 are technically concubines.

I believe in pre-revolutionary China more than 4 wives were allowed.

In Canada politicians are currently considering making polygamy legal to regularise the position of immigrants froim countries where it is legal.

This is analogous to the position of immigrants from countries with a lower age of consent (e.g. a couple from Holland married at 14 would have legal problems honeymooning in Florida!).

 

[Fantasies_only]

A couple from Holland married at 14 would have legal problems honeymooning in Florida!

That's true, but the same couple must consider pregancy issues as well.
If the baby travels 'cross American boarders, it is the same as smuggling illegal Cuban cigars.
It's likely the child would have a shorter lifespan by adolescence anyway.

 

[emap]

I don't think to many 14 year old just married couples would want to come here for a honeymoon. Heck I don't think to many 14 year olds want to come here for a vacation or fly over either.

I wasn't talking current laws about the sheik and his 100 wives, there wasn't always a law saying you can only have 4 wives. At one point it was however many you could afford. Besides, if your doing a story about a harem, the only way to get them unhappy with their sex lives is to have alot, because honestly, 4 wives isn't very hard to manage, sex 1-2 times a week for the wives while not always fully acceptable is manageable with a plastic friend. Sex 3 times a year on the other hand is way to little unless your over 50 at least.

 

[snooper]

... Sex 3 times a year on the other hand is way to little unless your over 50 at least.

I am 67 and my wife is 55, and I can confirm that 3 times a year is far too little. With the advent of the menopause comes the freedom from pregnancy worries, which allows more indulgence at unexpected moments, and without artifical constraints.

 

[emap]

I didn't mean everyone snoopy.

I've heard stories of randy 70 year olds getting caught in a car in a park, I've heard stories of older people going to the hospital because they broke a leg or hip trying to do Kama Sutra.

OK, I think I have wandered far to much and remember WAY to much.

 

[MzDeviancy]

A variant on the cheating wives idea:

Back in the days of kings, sultans, and what have you, Harems were guarded and adminstered by eunuchs, men who'd been castrated in the belief that this would keep them from interfering with the king or whatever's women.

But one does not neccesarily need a penis to please a woman, as we now know. Further more, castration didn't always work (if you castrate someone after he's completed puberty then he still might be able to get it up).

Thoughts?

I recently got the idea to do a bigamy story for loving wives. Our main male character is a Muslim Arab who marries first an American woman, then - behind her back - a Palestinian widow. He marries the Palestinian woman to get her American citizenship (a favour for her in-laws whom he's friends with). The problem I'm having is a can't think of any viable reason why he wouldn't have made his marriage to the first woman legal - it's really gonna detract from the believability (I can make up words if I want - it's four in the morning and I can't remember the word I'm looking for) of the story; on the flipside, it'll all be fine if it's viable that he could get away with such a thing, bearing in mind that he not only would have registered the two marriages, but would have also been under scrutiny by immigration when sponsoring his second wife's citizenship.

It all unfolded in my mind and the story would be so hot, damnit! But I refuse to write anything that goes beyond improbable into the realm of why the hell would the author waste their time writing this piece of crap.

 

[emap]

It's an interesting idea, but there is one problem, not even Utah allows bigamy anymore so he couldn't marry the american woman and then the palestinian woman to get her citizenship to the US unless he is already an american citizen, course then it would turn into more of the american woman is the other woman because he married the palestinian woman.

Now, on the other hand, if he married the palestinian woman first, then married the american woman I beleive he can file citizenship requests for himself and his first wife. Now the fun part would be, his american wife doesn't know about his first wife being his wife, she thinks she is the maid or something.

 

[MzDeviancy]

Sorry, I should clarify: he would be Arab-American. Full citizenship. And it wouldn't be a question of whether or not it's legal; I'm fully aware that polygamy is banned in the US. I'm asking what the likelihood is of him being able to perpetrate fraud (ie. claiming monogamy) when going through the immigration process, doing taxes, etc. I would plan on having him be caught by the IRS after some time, and the IRS informing his American-born wife, but the issue is the plausibility of him going that long without being caught. I'd like it to be several years (about 6-7) before he's found out; any thoughts?

I'm afraid I'm not really following you on the polygamy issue...If polygamy is illegal, why would it be okay for him in one order but not the other?

 

[Otto26]

I recently got the idea to do a bigamy story for loving wives. Our main male character is a Muslim Arab who marries first an American woman, then - behind her back - a Palestinian widow. He marries the Palestinian woman to get her American citizenship (a favour for her in-laws whom he's friends with). The problem I'm having is a can't think of any viable reason why he wouldn't have made his marriage to the first woman legal - it's really gonna detract from the believability (I can make up words if I want - it's four in the morning and I can't remember the word I'm looking for) of the story; on the flipside, it'll all be fine if it's viable that he could get away with such a thing, bearing in mind that he not only would have registered the two marriages, but would have also been under scrutiny by immigration when sponsoring his second wife's citizenship.

It all unfolded in my mind and the story would be so hot, damnit! But I refuse to write anything that goes beyond improbable into the realm of why the hell would the author waste their time writing this piece of crap.

It's entirely plausible if he doesn't try to bring the second woman in as his wife. He can marry her to satisfy her family (legal under Islamic law) and bring her to America as a domestic servant. It's easier to become a US citizen when you are residing in the US and gainfully employed. Could be interesting: the American wife would be the senior wife without knowing it, the Palestinian wife would be entitled to certain things under Islamic law, etc...

 

[emap]

Because the US has this little thing called respecting the laws of other countries. If he married the american first, they won't recognize the palestinian wife, however if he marries an american second, they are in a quandary, he is able to request citizenship here, but so is she since they all married to each other.

Because it happens that way, they can't say divorce the non american she came first, and they can't make him divorce the american, because she married him. I think they would either name the american as a daughter of him and give them citizenship because she is an american, or they would file his other wife as either a dependant or working for them as a maid.

Of course I may be wrong on that, but as far as I know it is possible to sidestep the pollygamy laws here, though at least one person's marriage would be declared null and void legally, so no insurance for one wife at least not through his work.

 

[xxt529]

The number goes up for sheiks, I've heard tales of a sheik and his 100 wives. Often I beleive he gets so many just to get people to listen to him, he has a wife or wives from each tribe that lives in his area, well so to speak with those tribes.

I think the funniest part, no way one man can keep 100 wives happy sexually, I bet the guards were given free reign to screw them just so he can sleep.

Actually something of the same thing with 4 wives, especially young wives.

Now as far as I know, in the middle east the wives all stayed in one building, which more or less meant alot of tricky sex with guards or outside guys, though I bet the lesbian affairs among themselves was pretty easy, which would happen when your stuck with alot of women and not enough cock.

However, elsewhere with multiple wives for one guy, they stay in seperate houses, which would make for a very easy time screwing around, you know when husband is coming over, the other times, you have a couple of studs taking turns with you.

Well as a muslim guy who's got family working in Saudi and a few other Gulf states, I can tell you that arab girls can be as horny as any other. I know a guy who wrked there as a driver for a sheikh, and every time the sheikh went away, the wife and her sister were taking turns fucking this guys brains out. And they used to give him loads of presents and stuff, to keep him happy and not tell anyone, which he's not going to anyway cos it would be the death penalty.

I wouldnt be surprised if loads of those wives were bi, even though the husband wouldnt be sleeping with all four in one bed, they'd have different rooms or different houses.

but if he's got 4 wives to satisfy and he's going away on business or anything like that, you have to ask the age old question: How long can a pussy go without a cock?

 

[love2b8]

Well as a muslim guy who's got family working in Saudi and a few other Gulf states, I can tell you that arab girls can be as horny as any other. I know a guy who wrked there as a driver for a sheikh, and every time the sheikh went away, the wife and her sister were taking turns fucking this guys brains out. And they used to give him loads of presents and stuff, to keep him happy and not tell anyone, which he's not going to anyway cos it would be the death penalty.

I wouldnt be surprised if loads of those wives were bi, even though the husband wouldnt be sleeping with all four in one bed, they'd have different rooms or different houses.

but if he's got 4 wives to satisfy and he's going away on business or anything like that, you have to ask the age old question: How long can a pussy go without a cock?

i hear it shrinks and gets tighter without use. i just cant bring myself to experiment to find out. get i'll just have to keep up the squeeze and squats for that. lol

 

[love2b8]

I recently got the idea to do a bigamy story for loving wives. Our main male character is a Muslim Arab who marries first an American woman, then - behind her back - a Palestinian widow. He marries the Palestinian woman to get her American citizenship (a favour for her in-laws whom he's friends with). The problem I'm having is a can't think of any viable reason why he wouldn't have made his marriage to the first woman legal - it's really gonna detract from the believability (I can make up words if I want - it's four in the morning and I can't remember the word I'm looking for) of the story; on the flipside, it'll all be fine if it's viable that he could get away with such a thing, bearing in mind that he not only would have registered the two marriages, but would have also been under scrutiny by immigration when sponsoring his second wife's citizenship.

It all unfolded in my mind and the story would be so hot, damnit! But I refuse to write anything that goes beyond improbable into the realm of why the hell would the author waste their time writing this piece of crap.

do a fantasy if only which can make it even hotter and even suspense.

 

[snooper]

I recently got the idea to do a bigamy story for loving wives. Our main male character is a Muslim Arab who marries first an American woman, then - behind her back - a Palestinian widow. He marries the Palestinian woman to get her American citizenship (a favour for her in-laws whom he's friends with). The problem I'm having is a can't think of any viable reason why he wouldn't have made his marriage to the first woman legal - it's really gonna detract from the believability (I can make up words if I want - it's four in the morning and I can't remember the word I'm looking for) of the story; on the flipside, it'll all be fine if it's viable that he could get away with such a thing, bearing in mind that he not only would have registered the two marriages, but would have also been under scrutiny by immigration when sponsoring his second wife's citizenship.

It all unfolded in my mind and the story would be so hot, damnit! But I refuse to write anything that goes beyond improbable into the realm of why the hell would the author waste their time writing this piece of crap.

do a fantasy if only which can make it even hotter and even suspense.

Love2b8:
You do realise that MzDeviancy's posting is from sixteen months ago, back in the summer of 2006?