Charlie Kirk Shot

[Xannadu]

My final take on Mr. Kirk's death.

I waste as much sorrow on him as I would any drug dealer. None at all.

I am sorry for his wife's loss and especially sorry for his children.

Him? The world is better off without him spreading the drugs fear, anger, and hatred.

I'm sorry so many guns are out there. And also sorry that somebody who thinks as that guy did could have adherents. And sorry that anyone uses violence.

 

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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=757940527146185

 

[eric_erosfan]

Nobody should die because they have unpopular opinions. People should only die if they attack or nullify the Constitution.

 

[RobDownSouth]

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Dis you, Laura?

https://imgur.com/luIaRtq

 

[eric_erosfan]

Dis you, Laura?

https://imgur.com/luIaRtq

Lol.

 

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Representative Nancy Mace has an epic ChloeTzang-class meltdown blaming Democrats for Charlie Kirk's timely demise

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This is a Derpy-level self-own by Graceless. Bravo to the reporter who put her sorry hypocritical ass on blast. Right to the neck.

And here is the tone shift now that it is known it was a white male.



Fuck these disingenuous whiny dipshits.

 

[JohnEngelman]

During the Great Depression the Democrats stole everyone's gold, stole a lot of land that they transferred to their wealthy cronies, and then when the war drums in Europe started pounding the Democrats (over the objections of the Republicans) made billions by selling arms to the British and the French. Which eventually got the US involved in the war with Germany.

World War Two and the government borrowing and spending hundreds of billions from the banking cartel at the ill-named "Federal Reserve" created an economic bubble that burst at the end of the war effectively causing a recessionary rebound that persisted into the 1960's.

The confiscatory 98% tax rate on wealth ironically caused a flight of wealth from the US to Germany and Japan, contributing to their rise as the economic powerhouses of the second half of the 20th Century.

It's no doubt lost on you that the single largest tax cut as a percentage of GDP took place when John Kennedy led the Democrats to slash taxes in a bill that was passed in 1964.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1964

Cutting the top tax rate from 91% to 70% is not the same as cutting the top tax rate from 70% to 28%, while raising military spending that is what Reagan did.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/02inpetr.pdf

During his 1980 debate with President Carter, Reagan said he could cut taxes, rise military spending and balance the budget by 1983, "If not sooner."

In 1980 the federal deficit was $908 billion. in 1983 it was $1,377 billion. In 1988, which was Reagan's last year in office, it was $2,602 billion.

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/national-debt-by-year-compared-to-gdp-and-major-events-3306287

 

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This is gonna hurt.

 

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At least he will rest easy knowing it wasn't a DEI hire.

 

[DraggonStone]

EPSTEIN

 

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[eric_erosfan]

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Far-right civil war?

 

[rgraham666]

Far-right civil war?

Biggie vs. Tupac.

Except with white people.

 

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Biggie vs. Tupac.

Except with white people.

They found Hussein in a hole in Iraq but they can't find who shot Pac?! Pac was shot on the Las Vegas strip after a Mike Tyson fight! In front of Circus Circus!

-Chris Rock

 

[Bn2f]

I don't doubt that some really are true believers of the right-wing hate espoused by Kirk. But the guy was 31 and had been doing this for 10 years starting in college. A 21 year old doesn't have the world figured out let alone his own politics. He just saw how his sales pitch was drawing attention and eventually money. And he kept going. He was a narcissist who fed off the notoriety and the dollars of idiots.

Well, Kirk's wife has spoken.
Channeling the spirit of Coretta Scott King in the days and weeks after the murder of her husband, the widow Kirk called for the nation to heal and for an end to political violence. Calling for stronger gun restrictions, she asked that we focus not on "who killed" her husband, but rather "what killed" her husband.
With tears in her eyes and a meek voice, she asked for the nation to pray and...

Hahahaha. Whodafuk am I kidding? She basically said - This ain't over! The gravy train ($) keeps a rollin and we coming for you lib bitches.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...fe-delivers-first-public-address/86123453007/

 

[Bn2f]

They

Kind of revealing if this continues to pan out. He felt Kirk and trump weren’t conservative enough.

This reminded me of a conversation had not too long ago with a RW member here:

 

[Bn2f]

The shooter was a Republican supporter:

https://www.texastribune.org/2025/08/27/minneapolis-shooting-manifesto-brandon-herrera/

Right. Because MAGA Republicans all go around painting "KILL TRUMP" on our firearms.

This tracks and lemme explain to you why this is a possibility with merit.

The left has never been disappointed or let down by trump. We have never fallen for any of his bullshitting lies. His supporters. SHOULD BE angry at him for all of his empty promises. Building a wall… Getting peace treaties… Lowering inflation… Better healthcare. I would be furious if the person I voted for gave me a nada, a nothing.

 

[Lazaran]

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This reminded me of a conversation I had not too long ago with a RW member here.

If you listen to the MAGAts here on the PB (and elsewhere), they will tell you themselves that they considered (past tense) Charlie Kirk to be a MODERATE (can you believe that ?!?!) compared to other (themselves???) MAGAts.



So if Charlie Kirk WAS a "MODERATE" MAGAt, and there is a large contingent of other MAGAts who are, by their own admission, waaaaaay more "conservative" (extreme), then can you imagine what kind of scum those "conservative" (extreme) MAGAts must be???



Apparently the POS MAGAt who shot Charlie Kirk in the neck was one of those "conservative" (extreme) MAGAts, so I guess we know what to expect going forward…



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Bray123]

Well, Kirk's wife has spoken.
Channeling the spirit of Coretta Scott King in the days and weeks after the murder of her husband, the widow Kirk called for the nation to heal and for an end to political violence. Calling for stronger gun restrictions, she asked that we focus not on "who killed" her husband, but rather "what killed" her husband.
With tears in her eyes and a meek voice, she asked for the nation to pray and...

Hahahaha. Whodafuk am I kidding? She basically said - This ain't over! The gravy train ($) keeps a rollin and we coming for you lib bitches.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...fe-delivers-first-public-address/86123453007/

That is the wife who Kirk referred to when he said that wives should keep quiet, clean the home and breed as and when required.

He would never have allowed her to say that when he was still alive. A true MAGAT, the party of bribery, corruption, pedophilia - and hypocrisy.

 

[Rotadom]

Half of Wat's thread is bereft.

 

[Robin_Starveling]

This is gonna hurt.

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Guns are definitely part of it. I honestly will never understand why the permit to carry a weapon isn’t limited to one per person, and only a handgun at that. Why should anyone be allowed to buy hunting rifles?

But, and this is a huge but, while there are violent individuals on every side, only one side dehumanizes the other, calling them Nazis and fascists, and in doing so, encouraging to take action. Only one side, fueled by immense sums of money from countries and shadowy actors, brainwashes impressionable young people through the media, social networks, and the education system.

Even though he is obviously preferable to any other Democratic candidate, I have no real hope in Trump. You can’t fight institutionalized antisemitism at universities, for example, while simultaneously embracing a country like Qatar that funds it.

In the end, things will be right. Light will prevail. It’s just a shame that rivers of blood will have to be spilled first.

 

[SkyBubble]

Remember how the 2017 congressional baseball shooting by a Bernie Sanders supporter got spun as "right-wing" by some corners until facts emerged? Thie left is pulling the same trick now, expecting us to forget.

Authorities recovered a bolt-action rifle Robinson abandoned, along with shell casings engraved with explicitly anti-fascist messages like "Hey fascist! Catch!" (accompanied by the three-arrows anti-Nazi symbol), "Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao" (a WWII Italian partisan anthem against Mussolini's fascism), and even some Gen Z/gamer slang like "Notices, bulges, OwO what's this?"—none of which scream "right-wing." Robinson's Discord chats showed him ranting about Kirk as a "fascist." Groypers typically criticize Kirk and similar mainstream conservatives (e.g., those at Turning Point USA) as "cuckservatives." not fascists.

"Hey, Fascist! Catch!" has no known connection to Fuentes or his movement. “Fascist” is mostly a left-wing insult in their eyes. Groypers see it as something liberals, mainstream conservatives, or “the establishment” throw around to shut down debate. “Hey, fascist! Catch!” doesn’t align with groyper rhetoric. Groypers, followers of Nick Fuentes’ so-called “America First” movement (which is actually the opposite), often embrace or ironically reclaim the “fascist” label. They’ll often mock the word itself -- like “lol everything’s fascist if you disagree with them” -- so they don’t typically deploy it seriously as an insult against others.

Prominent groypers, such as podcaster Connor Betts (aka "Pinesap"), have self-identified as fascist without apparent shame. A groyper using such slogans would be highly inconsistent with their worldview, which often mocks or vilifies anti-fascist movements like Antifa.

The three arrows were designed in 1932 by Sergei Chakhotin, a Russian-born socialist, and adopted by the Iron Front, a German paramilitary group formed by the Social Democratic Party (SPD) to counter the rising Nazi Party, as well as monarchists and communists. The arrows, pointing downward and to the left, symbolized opposition to three enemies: fascism (Nazis), monarchism, and communism. It is often used by Antifa. The Social Democrats are on the left.

"Bella Ciao" is an Italian anti-fascist song often used by Antifa. It has no known connection to Fuentes or Groypers.

Robinson’s shell casings, with their anti-Nazi three-arrows symbol and partisan anthem references, are straight out of the Antifa playbook.

A friend, family members, and the Governor all say he was a leftist. Robinson's high school friend described Robinson's political beliefs as "pretty left on everything" and noted he was "the only member of his family that was really leftist." During a family dinner shortly before the shooting, Robinson discussed Charlie Kirk critically, calling his views "full of hate and spreading hate," A groyper wouldn’t call a conservative “full of hate.” That phrasing is very liberal-coded — it sounds like MSNBC or an Antifa flyer. Groypers define themselves against that rhetorical frame. They want to be the ones accused of “hate” (because then they can say the establishment is trying to silence them).

The consistent portrayal from peers and family paints him as ideologically left-leaning in a conservative household.

(The report on the friend comes from The Guardian, a left-leaning paper. Its editorial stance often aligns with progressive or center-left positions—supporting social justice, climate action, and critiques of conservative figures or policies. Studies, like a 2018 YouGov poll, show that its readership in the UK leans heavily toward Labour and Liberal Democrats, with about 40% identifying as left-wing. The report is against their ideological interest.)

The claim that Fuentes called Kirk fascist is all based on second-hand information.
If somebody from a nice Republican family shows up with three arrows, shouting “Hey, fascist!” and accusing conservatives of being “full of hate” — that really does fit the outlier leftist in a conservative household profile.

If later a left-leaning publication says their source confirms he was “pretty far left on everything” and “the only leftist in the family,” that lines up exactly with what we’d expect. Groypers don’t use those words or symbols -- they hate them. So regardless of family background, the behavior tracks left-wing/antifascist, not groyper.

The alt-right’s collectivist, conflict-driven approach (e.g., race as a unifying struggle) mimics Marxist structures. Both woke left and alt-right are identity-based, not individual-based. Both see society as fundamentally about group conflict. The alt-right’s worldview is explicitly identity-based, emphasizing racial hierarchies and cultural exclusivity, often framing whites as victims of multiculturalism. This mirrors, in structure, the progressive left’s focus on identity groups.

Both Marxists and the alt-right seek to collapse society to impose their own visions. The alt-right isn’t truly “right.” Liberal democracy is the essence of what's called "right wing" philosophy. It's rooted in protecting the values that have worked for millennia, a free economy, government that restricts itself to (in Russell Kirk's words) "provid[ing] a tolerable degree of order so that liberty may flourish," and a strong, but not intrusive foreign and defense policy. It prefers equality under the law to "equity" and individual rights to groups. It si communitarian, but in a non-collectivist way. Marxists and alt-rightists oppose all of that.

The alt-right often critiques unchecked capitalism, favoring protectionist or statist policies. For instance, Spencer’s National Policy Institute opposes free markets. Marxists advocate abolishing private property and capitalism.

The alt-right envisions a strong state. The alt-right prioritizes group identity, as the "woke" left also does.

Both reject the old-school “legitimate right” (limited government, rule of law, individual liberty, free markets). They’re mirror-image tribal movements competing to replace classical liberalism and traditional conservatism.

 

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Remember how the 2017 congressional baseball shooting by a Bernie Sanders supporter got spun as "right-wing" by some corners until facts emerged? Thie left is pulling the same trick now, expecting us to forget.

Authorities recovered a bolt-action rifle Robinson abandoned, along with shell casings engraved with explicitly anti-fascist messages like "Hey fascist! Catch!" (accompanied by the three-arrows anti-Nazi symbol), "Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao" (a WWII Italian partisan anthem against Mussolini's fascism), and even some Gen Z/gamer slang like "Notices, bulges, OwO what's this?"—none of which scream "right-wing." Robinson's Discord chats showed him ranting about Kirk as a "fascist." Groypers typically criticize Kirk and similar mainstream conservatives (e.g., those at Turning Point USA) as "cuckservatives." not fascists.

"Hey, Fascist! Catch!" has no known connection to Fuentes or his movement. “Fascist” is mostly a left-wing insult in their eyes. Groypers see it as something liberals, mainstream conservatives, or “the establishment” throw around to shut down debate. “Hey, fascist! Catch!” doesn’t align with groyper rhetoric. Groypers, followers of Nick Fuentes’ so-called “America First” movement (which is actually the opposite), often embrace or ironically reclaim the “fascist” label. They’ll often mock the word itself -- like “lol everything’s fascist if you disagree with them” -- so they don’t typically deploy it seriously as an insult against others.

Prominent groypers, such as podcaster Connor Betts (aka "Pinesap"), have self-identified as fascist without apparent shame. A groyper using such slogans would be highly inconsistent with their worldview, which often mocks or vilifies anti-fascist movements like Antifa.

The three arrows were designed in 1932 by Sergei Chakhotin, a Russian-born socialist, and adopted by the Iron Front, a German paramilitary group formed by the Social Democratic Party (SPD) to counter the rising Nazi Party, as well as monarchists and communists. The arrows, pointing downward and to the left, symbolized opposition to three enemies: fascism (Nazis), monarchism, and communism. It is often used by Antifa. The Social Democrats are on the left.

"Bella Ciao" is an Italian anti-fascist song often used by Antifa. It has no known connection to Fuentes or Groypers.

Robinson’s shell casings, with their anti-Nazi three-arrows symbol and partisan anthem references, are straight out of the Antifa playbook.

A friend, family members, and the Governor all say he was a leftist. Robinson's high school friend described Robinson's political beliefs as "pretty left on everything" and noted he was "the only member of his family that was really leftist." During a family dinner shortly before the shooting, Robinson discussed Charlie Kirk critically, calling his views "full of hate and spreading hate," A groyper wouldn’t call a conservative “full of hate.” That phrasing is very liberal-coded — it sounds like MSNBC or an Antifa flyer. Groypers define themselves against that rhetorical frame. They want to be the ones accused of “hate” (because then they can say the establishment is trying to silence them).

The consistent portrayal from peers and family paints him as ideologically left-leaning in a conservative household.

(The report on the friend comes from The Guardian, a left-leaning paper. Its editorial stance often aligns with progressive or center-left positions—supporting social justice, climate action, and critiques of conservative figures or policies. Studies, like a 2018 YouGov poll, show that its readership in the UK leans heavily toward Labour and Liberal Democrats, with about 40% identifying as left-wing. The report is against their ideological interest.)

The claim that Fuentes called Kirk fascist is all based on second-hand information.
If somebody from a nice Republican family shows up with three arrows, shouting “Hey, fascist!” and accusing conservatives of being “full of hate” — that really does fit the outlier leftist in a conservative household profile.

If later a left-leaning publication says their source confirms he was “pretty far left on everything” and “the only leftist in the family,” that lines up exactly with what we’d expect. Groypers don’t use those words or symbols -- they hate them. So regardless of family background, the behavior tracks left-wing/antifascist, not groyper.

The alt-right’s collectivist, conflict-driven approach (e.g., race as a unifying struggle) mimics Marxist structures. Both woke left and alt-right are identity-based, not individual-based. Both see society as fundamentally about group conflict. The alt-right’s worldview is explicitly identity-based, emphasizing racial hierarchies and cultural exclusivity, often framing whites as victims of multiculturalism. This mirrors, in structure, the progressive left’s focus on identity groups.

Both Marxists and the alt-right seek to collapse society to impose their own visions. The alt-right isn’t truly “right.” Liberal democracy is the essence of what's called "right wing" philosophy. It's rooted in protecting the values that have worked for millennia, a free economy, government that restricts itself to (in Russell Kirk's words) "provid[ing] a tolerable degree of order so that liberty may flourish," and a strong, but not intrusive foreign and defense policy. It prefers equality under the law to "equity" and individual rights to groups. It si communitarian, but in a non-collectivist way. Marxists and alt-rightists oppose all of that.

The alt-right often critiques unchecked capitalism, favoring protectionist or statist policies. For instance, Spencer’s National Policy Institute opposes free markets. Marxists advocate abolishing private property and capitalism.

The alt-right envisions a strong state. The alt-right prioritizes group identity, as the "woke" left also does.

Both reject the old-school “legitimate right” (limited government, rule of law, individual liberty, free markets). They’re mirror-image tribal movements competing to replace classical liberalism and traditional conservatism.

Remember when a far-right radical exploded Charlie Kirk's neck and the Epstein files haven't been released?

 

[SkyBubble]

Typical no evidence response, bringing in something else irrelevant to the issue being discussed on this thread.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Remember when a far-right radical exploded Charlie Kirk's neck and the Epstein files haven't been released?

Like it was yesterday, or the day before.