A cautious, thoughtful discussion of non-abusive incest between adults

[Beandip478]

Even today I received a message from a woman who said she wants to be with her father, and she is simply the latest in a long line, along with men and women in every stage of life (not underage), some of them being players in what, to them, is absolutely normal but, normal or not, sometimes involves transgenerational incest even including reproduction.
I draw the line there, by the way, I'm just telling you what some people have told me about.
What I really wanted to explore today are the situations like the one a young adult woman mentioned to me today, a tale I've now heard many times. Or variations like young adult son with mother, etc. Here is the question: if both persons are at least eighteen, and both persons enter into such a relationship voluntarily, do we still call it incest? The word is stigmatizing, to say the least, and in many cases for good reason.
But adults can make choices. I also don't know what the law says about this--is it illegal if both parties are adults and it is consensual? There may be antiquated laws on the books, like the one that says adultery is illegal, that no politician has ever wanted to touch, for obvious reasons; but in the same way that no one gets prosecuted for adultery, would two adults with familial ties who are intimate with each other need to fear the law?
I don't know. I think it more likely they would need to fear social backlash, which would likely be severe.
Having said all this, after having read so many accounts of real life familial relationships (maybe that's a better term than incest in these cases) that were entered into enthusiastically by both parties, and which, as these people tell me, make them happy and fulfill certain needs they couldn't find elsewhere, I have come to the conclusion that sometimes, when it is the right two people, people who for whatever reasons this works for, specifically with the other right person in question, I actually support this.
Now, if after posting this I have not been banned from Lit, I would like to discuss this further, if y'all would.

 

[1OldFaithful]

Between open minded and consensual adults only!

 

[eaee]

Can't for the life of me figure out why it is anybody's business when two adults have sex in whatever form they desire. MAYBE if there is a child and the state is left with it's care.

 

[FamilyManBradley]

Even today I received a message from a woman who said she wants to be with her father, and she is simply the latest in a long line, along with men and women in every stage of life (not underage), some of them being players in what, to them, is absolutely normal but, normal or not, sometimes involves transgenerational incest even including reproduction.
I draw the line there, by the way, I'm just telling you what some people have told me about.
What I really wanted to explore today are the situations like the one a young adult woman mentioned to me today, a tale I've now heard many times. Or variations like young adult son with mother, etc. Here is the question: if both persons are at least eighteen, and both persons enter into such a relationship voluntarily, do we still call it incest? The word is stigmatizing, to say the least, and in many cases for good reason.
But adults can make choices. I also don't know what the law says about this--is it illegal if both parties are adults and it is consensual? There may be antiquated laws on the books, like the one that says adultery is illegal, that no politician has ever wanted to touch, for obvious reasons; but in the same way that no one gets prosecuted for adultery, would two adults with familial ties who are intimate with each other need to fear the law?
I don't know. I think it more likely they would need to fear social backlash, which would likely be severe.
Having said all this, after having read so many accounts of real life familial relationships (maybe that's a better term than incest in these cases) that were entered into enthusiastically by both parties, and which, as these people tell me, make them happy and fulfill certain needs they couldn't find elsewhere, I have come to the conclusion that sometimes, when it is the right two people, people who for whatever reasons this works for, specifically with the other right person in question, I actually support this.
Now, if after posting this I have not been banned from Lit, I would like to discuss this further, if y'all would.

I fully agree adults can make their own decisions... society should be more open to that when it comes to adults that are related.

 

[MaturemaninVA931393]

Nice to have a healthy non-judgemental conversation about this subject.

 

[MaturemaninVA931393]

Nice to have a healthy non-judgemental conversation about this subject.

PM me if you want to discuss it

 

[TCLuvs2692407]

I agree that it’s no one’s business what goes on between consenting adults.

 

[LFM90]

I agree that it’s no one’s business what goes on between consenting adults.

2 key words consenting adults. I agree I’m ok with incest it has been a fantasy of mine most of my life but as long as both parties are consenting adults it doesn’t matter to me who you have sex with related or not

 

[Carson19820]

I read on a few sites that France and Spain are two of several countries where incest is legal between consenting adults. Does that mean mom/son or father/daughter can engage in sexual activities and there's no legal repercussions?

 

[live4thebj]

As long as both parties are 18 or older and fully consensual then who has the right to tell them it is wrong?

 

[Stromer]

I agree that it’s no one’s business what goes on between consenting adults.

I personally cringe at the thought of incest, but that stems from what happened to three of my cousins that are still dealing with it 35 years later.
But your right, what happens between two consenting adults is none of my business.

 

[LFM90]

In my opinion I don’t think cousins engaging sexual activity should be considered incest. But I can’t stress the fact enough has to be 2 consenting adults

 

[LFM90]

And another point I’d like to add.
Im far from being a perfect Christian. I need to do better with that but anyway. We all came from Adam and Eve sooo how does that work. Is incest a sin or not?

 

[BadDad1953]

I fully agree that what goes on between 2 or more consenting adults is no one's business but the consenting adults. I have an ongoing relationship with 2 daughters (50 & 46) and a granddaughter (27). They take very good care of me and I take care of them!!

 

[Jdlickingit1298]

PM me if you want to discuss it

I'm in vault with a I c'est relationship n it the best ever

 

[LFM90]

I’m in love with my aunt and I’m starting to think she has feelings for me as well

 

[Beandip478]

I read on a few sites that France and Spain are two of several countries where incest is legal between consenting adults. Does that mean mom/son or father/daughter can engage in sexual activities and there's no legal repercussions?

To me, once both parties are adults, it almost, kind of doesn't seem like incest, if you take my meaning. They are two consenting adults, who cares if they're related.

 

[Dangerousliaisons]

Even today I received a message from a woman who said she wants to be with her father, and she is simply the latest in a long line, along with men and women in every stage of life (not underage), some of them being players in what, to them, is absolutely normal but, normal or not, sometimes involves transgenerational incest even including reproduction.
I draw the line there, by the way, I'm just telling you what some people have told me about.
What I really wanted to explore today are the situations like the one a young adult woman mentioned to me today, a tale I've now heard many times. Or variations like young adult son with mother, etc. Here is the question: if both persons are at least eighteen, and both persons enter into such a relationship voluntarily, do we still call it incest? The word is stigmatizing, to say the least, and in many cases for good reason.
But adults can make choices. I also don't know what the law says about this--is it illegal if both parties are adults and it is consensual? There may be antiquated laws on the books, like the one that says adultery is illegal, that no politician has ever wanted to touch, for obvious reasons; but in the same way that no one gets prosecuted for adultery, would two adults with familial ties who are intimate with each other need to fear the law?
I don't know. I think it more likely they would need to fear social backlash, which would likely be severe.
Having said all this, after having read so many accounts of real life familial relationships (maybe that's a better term than incest in these cases) that were entered into enthusiastically by both parties, and which, as these people tell me, make them happy and fulfill certain needs they couldn't find elsewhere, I have come to the conclusion that sometimes, when it is the right two people, people who for whatever reasons this works for, specifically with the other right person in question, I actually support this.
Now, if after posting this I have not been banned from Lit, I would like to discuss this further, if y'all would.

I shared a sexually intimate relationship with my sister from the late eighties snd off and on throughout the nineties,it started just before my first wedding ( obviously doomed from the start ) and her first divorce ….my sister had been living abroad but moved back to the Uk following her first divorce which coincided with the run up to my first wedding……a very erotic,intense and secretive relationship developed…..I worked for an airline back then,which was perfect for us as we could fly off without raising suspicion,still have pics and Polaroids,which wasnt easy keeping a secret especially before digital storage

 

[Beandip478]

I shared a sexually intimate relationship with my sister from the late eighties snd off and on throughout the nineties,it started just before my first wedding ( obviously doomed from the start ) and her first divorce ….my sister had been living abroad but moved back to the Uk following her first divorce which coincided with the run up to my first wedding……a very erotic,intense and secretive relationship developed…..I worked for an airline back then,which was perfect for us as we could fly off without raising suspicion,still have pics and Polaroids,which wasnt easy keeping a secret especially before digital storage

I would be interested to know what, precisely, precipitated the relationship. Was it something physical? Like, you and she had always wanted each other's bodies, or perhaps you had a big dick and/or you loved her large breasts or ass? Or was it something else?

 

[ned63]

I fully agree that what goes on between 2 or more consenting adults is no one's business but the consenting adults. I have an ongoing relationship with 2 daughters (50 & 46) and a granddaughter (27). They take very good care of me and I take care of them!!

love to hear more about you and your felation with family mmmmm DM me

 

[ned63]

I’m in love with my aunt and I’m starting to think she has feelings for me as well

You need to go for it. Maybe she has the same thoughts as you have. It be so much better to find out if she does. You might get to see what's under her clothes if you make the move mmmm

 

[Phatfeet]

You need to go for it. Maybe she has the same thoughts as you have. It be so much better to find out if she does. You might get to see what's under her clothes if you make the move mmmm

That is very dangerous to suggest.

Not to be a killjoy, and not because of the taboo topic being discussed, but because when discussion happens with likeminded people it often seems something is normal when to others that may not be the case. It is called affirmative bias, where when someone is entertained by a thought, they begin to feel that the person they crave feels the same way. Why? Because they want the other person to feel that way, but that might not be the case.

It is not just incestuous relations though, it can happen to husbands who want to share their wife with another man. The more and more that they think about it, the more and more they see "signs" that their spouse wants to be shared. That is NOT the case though, its affirmative bias causing them to see signs that are not there.

Its dangerous because relationships can be forever damaged. If a brother feels his sister is always flirting with him every time he sees her... and he approaches her and tells how he feels, because the brother read her wrong it is possible that she never speaks to him gain. Or a husband approaches his wife about being with another man and the marriage is damaged because she thinks her husband wants her cheating because he is, or wants an excuse to get out of the marriage.

Affirmative Bias can really make a person think a sexual connection is there when it is not.

I am not saying no one should ever investigate feelings further, but it should not be done without some major assurances first. Forever damage in relationships can result.

 

[Topher1972]

Although so many find it weird or unacceptable I have never had a problem with it. It’s nobody’s business what 2 consenting adults do. I’ve never done it but I must admit that I have fantasized about having sex with my sister. I wondered if it was ever a realistic possibility. If she was into it I’d have done it in a heartbeat. I think she might have been into it. Unfortunately before I could find out she passes away.

 

[Dangerousliaisons]

And another point I’d like to add.
Im far from being a perfect Christian. I need to do better with that but anyway. We all came from Adam and Eve sooo how does that work. Is incest a sin or not?

Adam and Eve surely you are joking ?